Leeds United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2020/2021

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Cant criticise Bamford there. They held him well so its up to other players to step up and find the nets in those games

Anyway, not too bothered, its one of those things that happen. Unfortunately the diving and time wasting is part of the game, we could get a bit cuter in that respect tbh

Seathrun66

The Golden Miller wrote: »

The real question is where does all the money go? We're always told Leeds are broke, yet we're the biggest team in Englands 3rd biggest city. Yet perennially broke. Go figure!

£103m spent on players in the Summer for starters, third highest net spenders in Europe. And wages. That's where the money goes.

10000maniacs

Fulham have won again. Leeds gap down to 10. We need to pick up more points.
Squeaky bum time for Newcastle.

Seathrun66

10000maniacs wrote: »

Fulham have won again. Leeds gap down to 10. We need to pick up more points.
Squeaky bum time for Newcastle.

For security we need 3/4 points. We'll probably get that over the next fortnight.

newhouse87

Costa looks to me like he don't a fcuk.

Zaph

Some good news for next week, Grealish is injured and will miss the trip to Elland Road on Saturday.

Carcharodon

10000maniacs wrote: »

Fulham have won again. Leeds gap down to 10. We need to pick up more points.
Squeaky bum time for Newcastle.

Yea, Newcastle look pretty poor with no confidence while Fulham are the opposite

Seathrun66

Carcharodon wrote: »

Yea, Newcastle look pretty poor with no confidence while Fulham are the opposite

Newcastle as bad as we've played this season. For me only Palace and WBA were as bad. They're likely to lose tonight and we may soon see them and Fulham switch places.

event

Fulhams next 5 games

Palace
Spurs
Liverpool
City
Leeds

I'm not too worried

Ceist_Beag

Zaph wrote: »

Some good news for next week, Grealish is injured and will miss the trip to Elland Road on Saturday.

Is that confirmed? Commentators on the Villa game yesterday were suggesting he might be fit.

Zaph

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Is that confirmed? Commentators on the Villa game yesterday were suggesting he might be fit.

Saw the YEP and The Athletic's Villa writer tweeting that he'd be out yesterday and next Saturday and would be assessed after that. Reputable sources, but maybe he's recovering quicker than anticipated.

is_that_so

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Is that confirmed? Commentators on the Villa game yesterday were suggesting he might be fit.

This is where the Bielsa "it depends on the evolution of the injury" comes in!

Jimmy Two Times

Funny how your perception of a player changes over a few weeks. Before Christmas I'd have said that Ayling was one of the players who had made the step up in levels and looked comfortable at this level.

Now mistakes against Brighton,Everton and not getting close enough to Aubameyang and allowing Traore run that far with the ball and get a shot away have all cost us goals since then.Not a criticism of someone who given everything,just a fact and an indication of how you get away with nothing at this level.

Also,said after the Brighton game that we should have stopped the run with by taking a yellow early in the move,should have done the same to Traore. With our man to man marking system,once you beat your own player,everything opens up. It's so frustrating to see every other team doing it and we're letting fellas run 60 yards and just running after them.

newhouse87

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Funny how your perception of a player changes over a few weeks. Before Christmas I'd have said that Ayling was one of the players who had made the step up in levels and looked comfortable at this level.

Now mistakes against Brighton,Everton and not getting close enough to Aubameyang and allowing Traore run that far with the ball and get a shot away have all cost us goals since then.Not a criticism of someone who given everything,just a fact and an indication of how you get away with nothing at this level.

Also,said after the Brighton game that we should have stopped the run with by taking a yellow early in the move,should have done the same to Traore. With our man to man marking system,once you beat your own player,everything opens up. It's so frustrating to see every other team doing it and we're letting fellas run 60 yards and just running after them.

I have been harping on about ayling wit a while i know, but i just dont think he looks comfortable at all on the ball anymore, every game he give me a heart palpations with the balls he plays around the back, still does ok going forward tbf, its obvious he gives his all but imo he's way too slow, he turns like a tractor. you can appreciate what he has done but also appreciate a replacement or at least competitive back up is required.

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Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Also,said after the Brighton game that we should have stopped the run with by taking a yellow early in the move,should have done the same to Traore. With our man to man marking system,once you beat your own player,everything opens up. It's so frustrating to see every other team doing it and we're letting fellas run 60 yards and just running after them.

Yeah we need to be a bit more cynical at times. But then with our defence, I dont like giving a free kick away anywhere :pac:

Seathrun66

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Is that confirmed? Commentators on the Villa game yesterday were suggesting he might be fit.

All the reports I read say he's out for a month (BBC, Goal.com, etc). It'd be hard not to make us clear favourites with his absence. Could be six points this week, but of course we'll remain wary.

Ceist_Beag

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Funny how your perception of a player changes over a few weeks. Before Christmas I'd have said that Ayling was one of the players who had made the step up in levels and looked comfortable at this level.

Now mistakes against Brighton,Everton and not getting close enough to Aubameyang and allowing Traore run that far with the ball and get a shot away have all cost us goals since then.Not a criticism of someone who given everything,just a fact and an indication of how you get away with nothing at this level.

Also,said after the Brighton game that we should have stopped the run with by taking a yellow early in the move,should have done the same to Traore. With our man to man marking system,once you beat your own player,everything opens up. It's so frustrating to see every other team doing it and we're letting fellas run 60 yards and just running after them.

I feel exactly the same about Ayling. I disagree with newhouse, I think he looks good on the ball and as I said before I think he is our best defender at bringing the ball out from the back. However defensively I do think he is being targeted a bit and is struggling. We do like to try and defend by getting a toe in to knock the ball away but forwards are learning to anticipate this and are turning our defenders easily when they get too tight. Ayling and Struijk were both guilty of this against Wolves. Both struggled with pace once turned. As you say Jimmy, it's a sign of the quality they're up against now that any mistakes are punished. Hopefully some of the U23s (Huggins possibly) can start to compete for a place there as I doubt we'll be signing too many in the summer.

Seathrun66

Despite two losses it's positive to see that we're in tenth again if we win tomorrow. We can even push further up the table as several teams (Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal, Villa) are at least as erratic as us. I'm not saying we'll pass any of them but we're still in a decent position to hop up a few places.

And that West Ham away game looks to me like our toughest fixture in March, even more than Chelsea at home.

Seathrun66

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

I feel exactly the same about Ayling. I disagree with newhouse, I think he looks good on the ball and as I said before I think he is our best defender at bringing the ball out from the back. However defensively I do think he is being targeted a bit and is struggling. We do like to try and defend by getting a toe in to knock the ball away but forwards are learning to anticipate this and are turning our defenders easily when they get too tight. Ayling and Struijk were both guilty of this against Wolves. Both struggled with pace once turned. As you say Jimmy, it's a sign of the quality they're up against now that any mistakes are punished. Hopefully some of the U23s (Huggins possibly) can start to compete for a place there as I doubt we'll be signing too many in the summer.

I'm also in agreement re Ayling.

But I think we're set for another Summer splurge. The 49ers money and the TV cash will likely mean our net spend will be over £100m again. This time though I think it'll be less player, though more expensive ones.

Rodrigo de Paul probably off to a big Italian club but he's a possibility.
Could we go in for Ben White again? If Liverpool don't make the CL does that give us a chance when bidding against them?
And there are a few other South Americans based in Italy we'll still be chasing.

Feeling optimistic for 2021/22 already.

newhouse87

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

I feel exactly the same about Ayling. I disagree with newhouse, I think he looks good on the ball and as I said before I think he is our best defender at bringing the ball out from the back. However defensively I do think he is being targeted a bit and is struggling. We do like to try and defend by getting a toe in to knock the ball away but forwards are learning to anticipate this and are turning our defenders easily when they get too tight. Ayling and Struijk were both guilty of this against Wolves. Both struggled with pace once turned. As you say Jimmy, it's a sign of the quality they're up against now that any mistakes are punished. Hopefully some of the U23s (Huggins possibly) can start to compete for a place there as I doubt we'll be signing too many in the summer.

TBF i did say he is ok going forward. Its the playing the ball round the back that i worry about, he gave bamford a dreadful ball against i cant quite remember a few weeks back that led to a goal aswell.

GoldFour4

Agreed in general about Ayling.

He is going to give away a very soft goal someday soon with his flops too. He gets away with it most of the time but he is going to throw himself to the ground in a dangerous position at some point and a referee is going to wave play on.

Jimmy Two Times

Left back is a priority as are two midfielders,one defensive and one attacking. Sadly I think we have seen the best of Klich who unfortunately hasn't the pace for this level.Also need an experienced keeper for the No 2 spot.

It's going to be heartbreaking to see this team break up as they have brought so much enjoyment to this battle scarred supporter in the last two and a half seasons.I'm so glad that they all got to play a part in the first year in the Premier League and that we didn't do a Villa or a Fulham and cast a load of them aside on promotion. I'll never forget how we played last season and how happy I was to finally break the hoodoo.

To be honest,the way things are going with this never ending lockdown,if it wasn't for watching this team playing every week and all that goes with it, I'd be in a lot worse place than I am. Bit dramatic I know,but when there's little else to look forward to,having a game each week is a big help.

NuckChorris1

Seathrun66 wrote: »

I'm also in agreement re Ayling.

But I think we're set for another Summer splurge. The 49ers money and the TV cash will likely mean our net spend will be over £100m again. This time though I think it'll be less player, though more expensive ones.

Rodrigo de Paul probably off to a big Italian club but he's a possibility.
Could we go in for Ben White again? If Liverpool don't make the CL does that give us a chance when bidding against them?
And there are a few other South Americans based in Italy we'll still be chasing.

Feeling optimistic for 2021/22 already.

Romain Perraud from Brest in France seems a solid link and fits the Bielsa mould in that he's young, attacking and improving each year. Fits the Orta mould in that his value should only really go up and could go up quite a lot if the price is right (French football suffering after collapse of TV sponsorship deal). Would still love Ben White, but we'll hardly spend that much on a CB when we have Cooper/Koch/Llorente/Struijk.

https://www.ligue1.com/Articles/ONE-TO-WATCH/2020/11/15/one-to-watch-romain-perraud#:~:text=Brest%20left%2Dback%20Romain%20Perraud,against%20Krasnodar%20in%20December%202016.

NuckChorris1

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Left back is a priority as are two midfielders,one defensive and one attacking. Sadly I think we have seen the best of Klich who unfortunately hasn't the pace for this level.Also need an experienced keeper for the No 2 spot.

It's going to be heartbreaking to see this team break up as they have brought so much enjoyment to this battle scarred supporter in the last two and a half seasons.I'm so glad that they all got to play a part in the first year in the Premier League and that we didn't do a Villa or a Fulham and cast a load of them aside on promotion. I'll never forget how we played last season and how happy I was to finally break the hoodoo.

To be honest,the way things are going with this never ending lockdown,if it wasn't for watching this team playing every week and all that goes with it, I'd be in a lot worse place than I am. Bit dramatic I know,but when there's little else to look forward to,having a game each week is a big help.

Strongly agree with every single part of this post!!!

Seathrun66

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Left back is a priority as are two midfielders,one defensive and one attacking. Sadly I think we have seen the best of Klich who unfortunately hasn't the pace for this level.Also need an experienced keeper for the No 2 spot.

It's going to be heartbreaking to see this team break up as they have brought so much enjoyment to this battle scarred supporter in the last two and a half seasons.I'm so glad that they all got to play a part in the first year in the Premier League and that we didn't do a Villa or a Fulham and cast a load of them aside on promotion. I'll never forget how we played last season and how happy I was to finally break the hoodoo.

To be honest,the way things are going with this never ending lockdown,if it wasn't for watching this team playing every week and all that goes with it, I'd be in a lot worse place than I am. Bit dramatic I know,but when there's little else to look forward to,having a game each week is a big help.

I think it's safe to say we're all in agreement with you.

And in terms of outgoing players Pablo is almost certainly gone. As is Casilla. Costa probably but maybe on loan with some other fringe members of the squad or under-23s. Roberts will stay I'm pretty sure, with him and Alioski on the bench. Where Cooper is also likely to end up despite some heroics this year. He's not of the calibre of Koch or Llorente and Struijk is also likely to be ahead in the pecking order soon.

Therefore of the matchday squads I reckon only Hernandez, Casilla and Costa won't be around next season. Or will we shed some more?

Seathrun66

NuckChorris1 wrote: »

Romain Perraud from Brest in France seems a solid link and fits the Bielsa mould in that he's young, attacking and improving each year. Fits the Orta mould in that his value should only really go up and could go up quite a lot if the price is right (French football suffering after collapse of TV sponsorship deal). Would still love Ben White, but we'll hardly spend that much on a CB when we have Cooper/Koch/Llorente/Struijk.

https://www.ligue1.com/Articles/ONE-TO-WATCH/2020/11/15/one-to-watch-romain-perraud#:~:text=Brest%20left%2Dback%20Romain%20Perraud,against%20Krasnodar%20in%20December%202016.

Is Struijk seen as a long-term DM by MB? Koch also plays in that role and Cooper may be sidelined sooner than later. Having said all that, you're right, it's definitely not an area of urgency given the options we have.

And I'd not heard of Perraud but he seems ideal for that slot.

Jimmy Two Times

I think Alioski will go too. If we sign a left back and everyone else is fit,he'd be mad to stay. Likely he'd end up as 3rd or 4th choice if Huggins steps up.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Roberts go either. Depends on who we sign I suppose and whether Rodrigo can stay fit.

purple hands

Kalvin and Rodrigo still not available tomorrow. Probably same line up as Wolves so.

newhouse87

Saw a not so shocking stat the other day, we tend to lose when hes out, remember seeing him at elland road against qpr think it was nov 2019, made the match with 10minutes to spare but he was head and shoulders above the rest, seemed to have so much time on the ball, a stocky ****er as i would say too.

Jimmy Two Times

newhouse87 wrote: »

Saw a not so shocking stat the other day, we tend to lose when hes out, remember seeing him at elland road against qpr think it was nov 2019, made the match with 10minutes to spare but he was head and shoulders above the rest, seemed to have so much time on the ball, a stocky ****er as i would say too.

Funny that,even though we beat them 2-0,I thought Eze gave him the run around. Needed a late goal from Harrison when he played a one - two with a defender when trying to find Klich in the box to seal a comfortable enough win,but Eze looked a really good player that day.

newhouse87

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Funny that,even though we beat them 2-0,I thought Eze gave him the run around. Needed a late goal from Harrison when he played a one - two with a defender when trying to find Klich in the box to seal a comfortable enough win,but Eze looked a really good player that day.

eze loked good that day like most days tbf, did think Phillips looked very composed like he had all the time in the world when on the ball. Thought it was a comfortable 2 nil win tbh, i was relatively calm in the stand ha. was a cold ****er of a day, didn't even have time to drop my gear bag to hotel before the game.

Jimmy Two Times

newhouse87 wrote: »

eze loked good that day like most days tbf, did think Phillips looked very composed like he had all the time in the world when on the ball. Thought it was a comfortable 2 nil win tbh, i was relatively calm in the stand ha. was a cold ****er of a day, didn't even have time to drop my gear bag to hotel before the game.

Calm, at Leeds,when we're one nil up ? I'll have some of what you're having

newhouse87

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Calm, at Leeds,when we're one nil up ? I'll have some of what you're having

relatively for me, they didn't threaten our goal much that day.

Jimmy Two Times

newhouse87 wrote: »

relatively for me, they didn't threaten our goal much that day.

Yep, in fairness they did have Jordan Hugill upfront for them

Funny to think we were linked with him once.

event

Seathrun66 wrote: »

I'm also in agreement re Ayling.

But I think we're set for another Summer splurge. The 49ers money and the TV cash will likely mean our net spend will be over £100m again. This time though I think it'll be less player, though more expensive ones.

Rodrigo de Paul probably off to a big Italian club but he's a possibility.
Could we go in for Ben White again? If Liverpool don't make the CL does that give us a chance when bidding against them?
And there are a few other South Americans based in Italy we'll still be chasing.

Feeling optimistic for 2021/22 already.

I'd love for that to happen. But Radz said we spent so much in the summer because her knew the 49er money was coming. Thats been spent already. The TV money is being spent on our wage bill really. No fans coming in is really harming us. Wont be many clubs spending that much money in the summer tbh When you see liverpool could barely afford a centre half in january, you know we'll be the same. Other clubs will have to reduce their prices too though, no one is spending the big money any more

Meslier, Dallas, Ayling contract exprire in 2023. So generally you want them to sign a new contract 2 years before it expires, dont let them get in to the last year of their deal. Dallas and Meslier will be offered extensions probably, that will cost a bit.

More worryingly, Bamford contract expires in 2022. He will need a significant upgrade in the summer. He is on £35k a week. Expect that to rise closer to 80k a week.

A lot of money will be spent on contract renewals, which is where the TV money will go

Could be wrong but I see us getting two players in the summer. LB and CM, outlay of about £50m.

Jimmy Two Times wrote: »

Left back is a priority as are two midfielders,one defensive and one attacking. Sadly I think we have seen the best of Klich who unfortunately hasn't the pace for this level.Also need an experienced keeper for the No 2 spot.

It's going to be heartbreaking to see this team break up as they have brought so much enjoyment to this battle scarred supporter in the last two and a half seasons.I'm so glad that they all got to play a part in the first year in the Premier League and that we didn't do a Villa or a Fulham and cast a load of them aside on promotion. I'll never forget how we played last season and how happy I was to finally break the hoodoo.

I dont see us breaking this team up. Bielsa is fiercely loyal to his players, all through his career. I dont think Klich is up to it in the PL myself but he has started 23 games this season, MB loves him. I think the only departures will be Roberts, Pablo and Berardi when his contract expires

maximoose

https://twitter.com/PhilHay_/status/1363840581475196933

Don't see him going anywhere!

Seathrun66

And so Brighton are slipping into a relegation battle. They go down and, even with the parachute payments, that knocks a few million off Ben White's price. The better news is that there's now a squabble down there for the third relegation slot and we're nowhere near involved.

Seathrun66

event wrote: »

I'd love for that to happen. But Radz said we spent so much in the summer because her knew the 49er money was coming. Thats been spent already. The TV money is being spent on our wage bill really. No fans coming in is really harming us. Wont be many clubs spending that much money in the summer tbh When you see liverpool could barely afford a centre half in january, you know we'll be the same. Other clubs will have to reduce their prices too though, no one is spending the big money any more

Meslier, Dallas, Ayling contract exprire in 2023. So generally you want them to sign a new contract 2 years before it expires, dont let them get in to the last year of their deal. Dallas and Meslier will be offered extensions probably, that will cost a bit.

More worryingly, Bamford contract expires in 2022. He will need a significant upgrade in the summer. He is on £35k a week. Expect that to rise closer to 80k a week.

A lot of money will be spent on contract renewals, which is where the TV money will go

Could be wrong but I see us getting two players in the summer. LB and CM, outlay of about £50m.

Radz also said last summer that our transfer outlay would be £45m. We spent £58m more than that.

Smoke and mirrors regarding next Summer's spending I think. Gate money is costing us but that'll change next season, the TV money will roll in and Leeds will be utterly cleaning up on shirts and merchandise.

Some of our first team will become squad players (Alioski, Cooper, maybe Dallas and Ayling) as we need depth to not only survive but compete for European places. We need to spend for the next two Summers at least to try to match the squads of the top teams. Very achievable I believe.

The Golden Miller

malistheman wrote: »

Bamford isn’t the problem with this team. He’s been excellent this year. I’d be very surprised if we buy another striker to replace or upgrade him this summer.

He has been brilliant in the sense he'd be a brilliant second striker. Offers loads apart from goals, and is delivering some goals in a very cosmetic pleasing fashion, but not enough goal's versus the amount Leeds and Bielsa teams in general create

The Golden Miller

Seathrun66 wrote: »

£103m spent on players in the Summer for starters, third highest net spenders in Europe. And wages. That's where the money goes.

103 million in 16 years? Granted he wasn't here 16 years ago, but hes the invested owner and has a bit of cash. He invests it towards our potential earnings and we all think he's great, spends it and he's even better ye? It's offset to how much the club is worth, he's not doing it for free.

Why do you think PSG owners were sniffing around? They know the value of one club teams in a huge city, Leeds the 3rd biggest in England. Leeds can afford way beyond what our owners always tell us, to penny pinch the clubs sizeable self made profits, of which the club and fans are always held back from. There's huge money there, the owners just see better than to spend it on the club

The Golden Miller

Haaland openly suggests he wants to play with Leeds. With all our, what should be, financial reserves, have we even made an offer? As the biggest club in Englands 3rd biggest city? Nah, we don't have the money sure!

Ceist_Beag

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Haaland openly suggests he wants to play with Leeds. With all our, what should be, financial reserves, have we even made an offer? As the biggest club in Englands 3rd biggest city? Nah, we don't have the money sure!

Now I know you must be sniffing something! We haven't made a bid for MBappe yet either, do you think we should? Haaland is the hottest prospect in Europe. Only Champions League contenders will interest him. I think we have just a little bit to go before we can think about making offers for the likes of him Ted!

Seathrun66

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Haaland openly suggests he wants to play with Leeds. With all our, what should be, financial reserves, have we even made an offer? As the biggest club in Englands 3rd biggest city? Nah, we don't have the money sure!

Haaland's agent is asking for £78m for a five year contract. And that's after the transfer fee. Even Man Utd and Liverpool can't afford that. Italian and Spanish clubs also priced out. Only Chelsea, PSG and Man City can pay those wages.

But hey, if you've got Radz's ear then please have a word.

Seathrun66

The Golden Miller wrote: »

103 million in 16 years? Granted he wasn't here 16 years ago, but hes the invested owner and has a bit of cash. He invests it towards our potential earnings and we all think he's great, spends it and he's even better ye? It's offset to how much the club is worth, he's not doing it for free.

Why do you think PSG owners were sniffing around? They know the value of one club teams in a huge city, Leeds the 3rd biggest in England. Leeds can afford way beyond what our owners always tell us, to penny pinch the clubs sizeable self made profits, of which the club and fans are always held back from. There's huge money there, the owners just see better than to spend it on the club

So, after outlays, how much do you think Radz is making from Leeds?

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Seathrun66 wrote: »

And so Brighton are slipping into a relegation battle. They go down and, even with the parachute payments, that knocks a few million off Ben White's price. The better news is that there's now a squabble down there for the third relegation slot and we're nowhere near involved.

Feck him. Happy with Koch now and I am hoping Llorente proves me wrong too.

The Golden Miller wrote: »

He has been brilliant in the sense he'd be a brilliant second striker. Offers loads apart from goals, and is delivering some goals in a very cosmetic pleasing fashion, but not enough goal's versus the amount Leeds and Bielsa teams in general create

Bielsa doesnt play a second striker though.

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Haaland openly suggests he wants to play with Leeds. With all our, what should be, financial reserves, have we even made an offer? As the biggest club in Englands 3rd biggest city? Nah, we don't have the money sure!

Messi is out of contract in the summer too, maybe we should sign him.
Are you Peter Ridsdale?

event

And like, scoring goals isnt the issue. We are the 5thh highest scorers in the league. Unless Haaland can do a job at centre half, we dont need him

Seathrun66

event wrote: »

Feck him. Happy with Koch now and I am hoping Llorente proves me wrong too.



Bielsa doesnt play a second striker though.



Messi is out of contract in the summer too, maybe we should sign him.
Are you Peter Ridsdale?

Agree re Ben White to some extent. Can't fathom why he signed an extended contract with Brighton. Pressure on a young lad I assume, but surely the agent should intervene?

And Ridsdale, brilliant.

event

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Agree re Ben White to some extent. Can't fathom why he signed an extended contract with Brighton. Pressure on a young lad I assume, but surely the agent should intervene?

And Ridsdale, brilliant.

He's probably has a relegation clause.

Although in saying that, it'd be good to have him. Imagine Koch & him at centre half with Llorente and Cooper as back up. Plus he has more experience this year playing in midfield so would be handy to cover Phillips.

Ye have me convinced now

Seathrun66

event wrote: »

He's probably has a relegation clause.

Although in saying that, it'd be good to have him. Imagine Koch & him at centre half with Llorente and Cooper as back up. Plus he has more experience this year playing in midfield so would be handy to cover Phillips.

Ye have me convinced now

Could we outbid Pool though? I assume he has a release clause, I'd guess £30m-£40m. Both clubs meet that and it's then his choice. We finish close to Pool and they don't make the CL and we have a strong argument. He doesn't want to be back up for VVD.

I can't see Brighton getting relegated anyway, though I'd not shed too many tears given their fan's stirring up of rivalry following BW's move back.



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10000maniacs

Gordon McQueen diagnosed with vascular dementia. He used to head the ball like nobody's business when with Leeds. I think there can be no doubt at this stage given the amount of players diagnosed.