Ireland vs Austria, World Cup Qualifier, kick-off 5pm, RTE 2 & Sky Sports 1

TheCitizen

That's desperately disappointing. I've been a big supporter of MON but I would put that result down to him. That was 2 points dropped. MON deserves to be hammered for that.

blueser

Come on Wales.

Gizmo55

Really didn't think we'd get back into that so well chuffed. Robbed of the win imo.

spock.

That save from Randolph just before the goal could be a huge moment in this qualifying campaign.

Mushy

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Those kinds of incidents are a weird grey area. You get so much benefit by just getting your body in the way to be kicked. But technically Walters kicks him. Walters was lining up a shot and does not benefit at all from kicking the defender, so it's a tough call for me.

Not up to the person in possession to alter their shape for a defender. Defender got too close to him, should be a penalty.

Played terribly and were still robbed, madness!

MonkieSocks

Cue Humpty Dunphy

Andersonisgod

Good heart shown late on to get a draw out of it and panic Austria. Thought the disallowed goal was probably a free based on the barge and high arm. Decent point but should have expected more.

alta stare

A draw tonight is a must.

PTH2009

Am i pissed off or relived ???

cant see Serbia losing

ThunbergsAreGo

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Defender didn't touch the ball. Interfered with the Walters' shot. Penalty.
If a player is clipped unintentionally while running full tilt it's still a foul.

Could have been a free out for our goal as well

Strong words from McLean

Corholio

Didn't deserve the win in the end, started playing way too late and Walters getting man of the match sums it up really. That Austrian team was there for the taking today and tactically it was wrong from the start and was fixed much too late. A point in semi decent in the end, a few decisions at the end shouldn't mask a pretty poor performance.

ThunbergsAreGo

niallo27 wrote: »

For me Duffy charged at the defender. He didn't get the ball just bundled the defender over.

Duffyesque one might say... :-)

naughtb4

naughtb4 wrote: »

Could have been a free out for our goal as well

Strong words from McLean

Yes. We did nothing for 80 minutes so I don't think he can complain too much

Andersonisgod

Why have RTE stuck a microphone in front of McClean's face moments after a fairly fierce game? Like they are inviting trouble onto the squad and McClean's comment about the ref runs the risk of a ban.

Osmosis Jones

I'm more disappointed with McClean skying it from 8 yards out after it was cleared off the line than anything.

PhlegmyMoses

dfx- wrote: »

no penalty and it was a foul for the disallowed goal....possibly a foul for the equaliser too but a great finish.

Awful scared first 55 minutes.

Nah, all of those decisions are marginal. Walters' goal in particular was never a foul in a million years, just solid physicality.

alta stare

PTH2009 wrote: »

Am i pissed off or relived ???

cant see Serbia losing

Id say dramatic.

sky88

Mon wrong selection and tactics cost us 2 points there Austria are not a good team

BorneTobyWilde

Tight group, always is with us involved.
We could be leading table over summer, that has to be great achievement.

alta stare

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Tight group, always is with us involved.
We could be leading table over summer, that has to be great achievement.

Yep we could be. Id prefer a draw later then go again next season.

sdanseo

Just me or were George and Jim were very pessimistic that whole game? Felt like they were beating the Irish up until Walters scored and then immediately they were sure that we could get the second. I didn't think we played badly when you compare to the likes of Mexico when we couldn't string three passes together which was incredibly frustrating to watch.

PhlegmyMoses

I must have been watching a different match from the pundits. Austria did not "play football" and were not "the better team". Both teams were pretty poor today and it's okay to say that.

Arne_Saknussem

The poxy music they blare out after a goal is a bit naff.

murpho999

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Why have RTE stuck a microphone in front of McClean's face moments after a fairly fierce game? Like they are inviting trouble onto the squad and McClean's comment about the ref runs the risk of a ban.

All TV stations do that and it's not RTE's fault that McClean is thick.

TheCitizen

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Cue Humpty Dunphy

He's not wrong tonight. MON picked the wrong team.

niallo27

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Nah, all of those decisions are marginal. Walters' goal in particular was never a foul in a million years, just solid physicality.

It wasn't a foul but you often see defenders get soft frees when there is any contact.

Andersonisgod

Something very irritating about Brady calling for Hoolahan to start games but when he was in a position of power he backed Trapatonni to the hilt when leaving him out of starting 11's so often.

murpho999

MON is going to say he got it right and he's happy with the point and the poor tactics will continue.

PhlegmyMoses

niallo27 wrote: »

It wasn't a foul but you often see defenders get soft frees when there is any contact.

But we need to be honest when we see a real outcome from that kind of situation. Physicality is a part of the game, that was a good battle between Walters and Dragovic all game.

Andersonisgod

murpho999 wrote: »

All TV stations do that and it's not RTE's fault that McClean is thick.

For the national broadcaster though, know the situation, know the players, protect the players you are interviewing. There was no need at all for it to be McClean.

blueser

niallo27 wrote: »

It wasn't a foul but you often see defenders get soft frees when there is any contact.

Spot on. It wasn't a foul, but they're blown up 9 times out of 10. It was a deserved goal though, if only for the second half display

Dick phelan

I honestly can't understand why Whelan is in the team, Arter Hendrick in MF with Wes seems the obvious way to go when at home trying to win the game

TheCitizen

murpho999 wrote: »

MON is going to say he got it right and he's happy with the point and the poor tactics will continue.

He can say what he likes but if we end up not qualifying he should and will be sacked. That was a poor performance from him especially and I say that as one of his defenders on here. He might get away with it as other results happen but that dropped two points was solely down to him.

alta stare

murpho999 wrote: »

All TV stations do that and it's not RTE's fault that McClean is thick.

I bet you were loving him last November.

He may not be the silkest player and he aint the most composed but f^ck me give him some credit for trying and having pride in wearing his countries jersey and why even bother calling him thick? I mean what do you even know about the mans intelligence? Straight after the game and he has a go at the ref and so what, he was clearly pissed off and fair play to him for not keeping stum.

briany

Thank f*ck Ireland got that goal. Disappointing, but it's one of those draws that now feels like a win because of the late goal.

Tigerandahalf

Great point as we were really poor tonight. So many of the players are really limited football wise.

Big call to start Long in such a big game. For me Keogh is our best centre half. Unfortunately we have no centre back capable of playing the ball.

Impressed with Christie again. Composed and good on the ball.

What a player Jon Walters is. Started in the bottom division in England and worked his way up through every division. He is such a smart player. That little shove on the defender was typical of him. What a strike too.

Beglin is nearly as bad as Ronnie Whelan for being clueless as a commentator. Always derogatory towards the opposition players.

sReq | uTeK

****....Thought game was on st 7.30 got beers in and all

blueser

blueser wrote: »

Spot on. It wasn't a foul, but they're blown up 9 times out of 10. It was a deserved goal though, if only for the second half display

He used his arm fully extended to win the ball. It's was certainly a foul.

murpho999

Andersonisgod wrote: »

For the national broadcaster though, know the situation, know the players, protect the players you are interviewing. There was no need at all for it to be McClean.

"The National Broadcaster"


Come on you're expecting too much. Tony O'Donoghue has a job to do and is competing with other outlets.

Tigerandahalf

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Beglin is nearly as bad as Ronnie Whelan for being clueless as a commentator. Always derogatory towards the opposition players.

Agree with some of your post but scratching my head about this. I think Beglin is actually diplomatic to a fault

D.Q

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

****....Thought game was on st 7.30 got beers in and all

On the way

corny

We were no more cohesive when the changes were made. Its too easy to criticise the manager.

I'll be an old man when this happens but i'm waiting for the day when the panellists actually criticise the players.

Courage isn't running around like a headless chicken, making tackles and working up a sweat. Courage is showing for the ball, taking responsibility and trying to make things happen. On those terms we've very few courageous players.

MonkieSocks

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

****....Thought game was on st 7.30 got beers in and all

You can watch the highlights live on the RTE Player

Arghus

MaClean's comments about the ref were nothing big.

gormdubhgorm

So at half time dunphy says 'Walters cannot play up top and cannot run the channels'

Second half Walters scores a goal running the channels.

Full time no mention of Walters running the channels to score the goal.

Full time Dunphy says 'Walters is a great player lots of spirit'

alta stare

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

****....Thought game was on st 7.30 got beers in and all

Sit down relax crack open a beer it was a draw so the replay is on at 745.

Great interview with Walters. Wish the manager was as self-aware

murpho999

alta stare wrote: »

I bet you were loving him last November.

He may not be the silkest player and he aint the most composed but f^ck me give him some credit for trying and having pride in wearing his countries jersey and why even bother calling him thick? I mean what do you even know about the mans intelligence? Straight after the game and he has a go at the ref and so what, he was clearly pissed off and fair play to him for not keeping stum.

As professional players are not supposed comment about refs after games, I would deem him a bit thick for saying stuff that he shouldn't.

All right saying he should not keep stum but that's not what he's supposed to do.

gormdubhgorm

corny wrote: »

We were no more cohesive when the changes were made. Its too easy to criticise the manager.

I'll be an old man when this happens but i'm waiting for the day when the panellists actually criticise the players.

Courage isn't running around like a headless chicken, making tackles and working up a sweat. Courage is showing for the ball, taking responsibility and trying to make things happen. On those terms we've very few courageous players.

Exactly I am sick of hearing the same records spun
Just the names have changed hoolahan instead of reid

Jesus enough about the officials