Donald Trump Presidency discussion thread II

aloyisious

Billy86 wrote: »

Fox News on Wednesday (before the Grand Jury were impaneled): "There is much to investigate. Did Comey usurp the authority of the Attorney General in terminating the Clinton email investigation? How could downloading more than a hundred classified documents onto Clinton’s private and unsecured email server not constitute crimes under the Espionage Act? Why were five people given immunity while others invoked the Fifth Amendment, yet no grand jury was impaneled?"

Fox News on Thursday (after Grand Jury were impaneled): "Everybody now realizes that grand juries are an undemocratic farce."

Same guy too, some eejit called Gregg Jarrett.

Having watched FoxNews and it's "panel" of newsreaders, made me understand that being one on America's News HQ doesn't make one an investigative reporter, just a columnist relating his or her opinion.

johnnyskeleton

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

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Billy86 wrote: »

One major flaw with this theory is that for Trump to have been cucked, he would have to be the one wearing the pants in the relationship and not Uncle Vlad.

BabyCheeses wrote: »

While the veto wouldn't have changed much he could have washed his hands of it if he actually thought it was unconstitutional. Between this and him begging for other politicians to be nicer and to word it in a way for his supporters to understand, he got cucked.

What is taking so long for his followers to post distractions? By now we should have had some update on the spy microwaves or a drive by from one of the usuals about how he is doing a great job.

Mod note:

There has already been a warning about low standards.

Billy86 wrote: »

Fox News on Wednesday (before the Grand Jury were impaneled): "There is much to investigate. Did Comey usurp the authority of the Attorney General in terminating the Clinton email investigation? How could downloading more than a hundred classified documents onto Clinton’s private and unsecured email server not constitute crimes under the Espionage Act? Why were five people given immunity while others invoked the Fifth Amendment, yet no grand jury was impaneled?"

Fox News on Thursday (after Grand Jury were impaneled): "Everybody now realizes that grand juries are an undemocratic farce."

Same guy too, some eejit called Gregg Jarrett.

Please remember the no news dump rule

Billy86

Apologies if it came across incorrectly so fair enough, but the fact is Trump (who has had a go at multiple of America's allies and leaders already) very much does cater to and bite his tongue on Putin, even the Kremlin openly mocks him. We all know why this is, and why Trump basically had a temper tantrum about having to sign the sanctions bill, because Putin does very much wear the pants in that relationship (likely due to information he has on Trump, Trump's campaign and/or Trump's finances).

The second post was not intended as a news dump to clarify, it was to point out the sheer hypocrisy of Fox News, hence the before/after comments in brackets. Not questioning the moderating, just clarifying the initial post.

Thargor

That sanctions bill where his own party basically removed his powers because they didn't trust him when it comes to Americas traditional enemy had to be the biggest insult and the biggest humiliation ever inflicted on an American president in my opinion, and its just water off a ducks back to Trump, it really is amazing.

jooksavage

Thargor wrote: »

That sanctions bill where his own party basically removed his powers because they didn't trust him when it comes to Americas traditional enemy had to be the biggest insult and the biggest humiliation ever inflicted on an American president in my opinion, and its just water off a ducks back to Trump, it really is amazing.

There has also been a bi-partisan drive for bills to protect Mueller. All of this is simultaneously encouraging and disheartening: quite a few Republicans are acknowledging Trump's unreliability and unfitness for the office. The same Republicans however won't go any further than feeling "conern" or "disturbed" when it comes the kind of behaviour that would land any normal president in impeachment territory several times over.

Blowfish

Thargor wrote: »

That sanctions bill where his own party basically removed his powers because they didn't trust him when it comes to Americas traditional enemy had to be the biggest insult and the biggest humiliation ever inflicted on an American president in my opinion, and its just water off a ducks back to Trump, it really is amazing.

Add in the fact that the GOP Senators voted to block any recess appointments to that and it's looking more and more that the they are slowly but surely turning on him. I'd imagine they'll still try to push though their agenda, but will do it while trying to minimise his power as much as possible.

Samaris

It does look to me like the GOP are disentangling themselves from Trump to let him swing alone (or with his closest allies, family allies, probably Bannon, maybe Mills - although he's useful so far and not as mad as many of them appear - and anyone else overly-tainted with Trumpism. Pence has been staying very quiet and subtly distancing himself from the administration, keeping it quiet enough to not attract attention because he's in the wings as the natural successor and he's already preparing for his own administration, as are the GOP.

At the moment, it does look inevitable that he will succeed Trump despite his own taint from the administration (and it'll get worse if he does take back Spicer and rehabilitate Sessions). I do rather hope that a subsequent scandal will take him out, because he is, if anything, worse in his ideals, just a lot smarter about enacting them.

Bit weird that once upon a time, Pence and Sessions would both have been considered unelectable for being fringe elements. Now they're the sane ones.

MadYaker

Billy86 wrote: »

Fox News on Wednesday (before the Grand Jury were impaneled): "There is much to investigate. Did Comey usurp the authority of the Attorney General in terminating the Clinton email investigation? How could downloading more than a hundred classified documents onto Clinton’s private and unsecured email server not constitute crimes under the Espionage Act? Why were five people given immunity while others invoked the Fifth Amendment, yet no grand jury was impaneled?"

Fox News on Thursday (after Grand Jury were impaneled): "Everybody now realizes that grand juries are an undemocratic farce."

Same guy too, some eejit called Gregg Jarrett.

I think the media in the US have a lot to answer for in terms of the current state of their political system, and I'm not just talking about right wing media. This constant right vs left, us vs them narrative is being rammed down peoples throats night and day. It's no wonder the public and politicians are so entrenched in their views, making compromise very difficult.

Billy86

Some murmurs that Stephen Miller might be taking over for Scaramucci. Sadly nobody got around to doing a Scaramucci impression because he got sacked in record time, so of all people, Pauly Shore has stepped up early with Stephen Miller and... surprisingly for Shore, it's really good.

Itssoeasy

Stephan miller I hope goes down for him statements about "the presidents powers will be challenged" horse****e.

Oh the presidents powers will be challenged mr miller.

Itssoeasy

Eric bolling of Fox News has been suspended due to an investigation over alleged unsolicited photos sent to female coworkers on both fox business and Fox News channel.

BillyBobBS

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Eric bolling of Fox News has been suspended due to an investigation over alleged unsolicited photos sent to female coworkers on both fox business and Fox News channel.

And that has exactly what to do with president Trump?

BillyBobBS

Just looked at the employment figures from the US and it seems president Trump has begun to turn things around jobs wise after the disaster of the Obama years. Also the Dow Jones is soaring to new heights.

Itssoeasy

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Eric bolling of Fox News has been suspended due to an investigation over alleged unsolicited photos sent to female coworkers on both fox business and Fox News channel.

And that has exactly what to do with president Trump?

He's a big supporter of trump.

Peregrinus

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Eric bolling of Fox News has been suspended due to an investigation over alleged unsolicited photos sent to female coworkers on both fox business and Fox News channel.

BillyBobBS wrote: »

And that has exactly what to do with president Trump?

Perphaps the unsolicited photos that Bolling sent were of Donald Trump?

Really Interested

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Just looked at the employment figures from the US and it seems president Trump has begun to turn things around jobs wise after the disaster of the Obama years. Also the Dow Jones is soaring to new heights.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/512366/

2000000 jobs created in 2016 so how was that the disaster years. Dow has been growing for years now. Funny last year Trump said the figures all fake.

Peregrinus

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Just looked at the employment figures from the US and it seems president Trump has begun to turn things around jobs wise after the disaster of the Obama years. Also the Dow Jones is soaring to new heights.

US unemployment figures fell throughout Obama's term, and when he left office the country had a much lower unemployment rate (4.5%) than when he entered (8%). The fact that Trump supporters consider that a disaster is fairly telling, I think.

Wanderer78

BillyBobBS wrote:

Just looked at the employment figures from the US and it seems president Trump has begun to turn things around jobs wise after the disaster of the Obama years. Also the Dow Jones is soaring to new heights.

Stock buy back and increasing CEO pay helps the majority by......

Billy86

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Just looked at the employment figures from the US and it seems president Trump has begun to turn things around jobs wise after the disaster of the Obama years. Also the Dow Jones is soaring to new heights.

And by "turn things around" you mean... ???



Trump has yet to pass any meaningful policies or a budgets by the way, it's still Obama's legacy at work there until the laziest president in history (who is currently on a 17 day holiday) actually manages to get something done beyond the latest round of golf.

As for the Dow Jones...



By the standards you just laid out Obama's presidency was a roaring success.

Professor Moriarty

Peregrinus wrote: »

Perphaps the unsolicited photos that Bolling sent were of Donald Trump?

Wouldn't take a genius to identify...small hands...

Mardy Bum

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Eric bolling of Fox News has been suspended due to an investigation over alleged unsolicited photos sent to female coworkers on both fox business and Fox News channel.

Most of Trump's shills appear to have been involved in harassment of one kind or another.

Leroy42

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Just looked at the employment figures from the US and it seems president Trump has begun to turn things around jobs wise after the disaster of the Obama years. Also the Dow Jones is soaring to new heights.

What was the record of Obama for job creation?

Under Obama, since 2010 at the worst of the recession, Obama created 14 million jobs. Hardly a disaster.

156k jobs were created in December 2016. In the 7 months to July 2016, 1.372m jobs were created.

Trump has managed to create 1290. Hardly a massive turnaround.

Lets even give him Jan off. Taking Feb to July to comparison is still in Obamas favour.

2016 - 1246
2017 - 1074.

So 170k less jobs created.

Trump has done nothing expect to continue on the work already out in place by Obama. The numbers would seem to suggest a slow down in the rate.

Nody

Leroy42 wrote: »

Trump has done nothing expect to continue on the work already out in place by Obama. The numbers would seem to suggest a slow down in the rate.

Well he's taking a lot of vacation to make sure the trickle down economy will work you know.

Fun fact; 198 days in office and 60 of them spent on various Trump properties where of which 45 days at golf resorts. Due to this very heavy workload he now needs a 17 day vacation at another one of his golf resort... What was that Trump said about golfing again?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/521813597799067648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fdonald-trump%2Fhow-much-time-trump-spending-trump-properties-n753366
Oh right... Do what I say not what I do from the great negotiator who can't get even something as simple as healthcare rejected by a Republican controlled house and senate. All his voters really have to be tired of all the winning going on by now as he promised.

Christy42

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Just looked at the employment figures from the US and it seems president Trump has begun to turn things around jobs wise after the disaster of the Obama years. Also the Dow Jones is soaring to new heights.

Please point out which trends Trump has turned around. There is little data in this post. Why were the Obama years a disaster? Which figures in particular has Trump turned around.

As others have pointed out it seems to be mostly trends from the Obama era continuing upward so far.

Beechwoodspark

Story in the NY Times about all the networking Pence and others in the GOP are doing with an eye towards 2020. The consensus seems to be Trump will be dumped at some stage so they are jockeying for position following that.

mcmoustache

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Just looked at the employment figures from the US and it seems president Trump has begun to turn things around jobs wise after the disaster of the Obama years. Also the Dow Jones is soaring to new heights.

No you didn't just look at employment figures and come to the conclusion that Trump turned things around. Why would you lie about something like that? You should admit that you read something on the internet and mindlessly repeated it here in an attempt to look clever.

As has been pointed out, unemployment is continuing the trend started by Obama. If you had looked at the statistics, you would know this but you instead chose to repeat Trump talking points which, lets face it, are generally dishonest. You spreading this dishonesty, whether knowingly or not, just makes you look ignorant of the facts about reality.

I don't understand how people don't get this. Trump lies all the time. His talking points are mostly bogus. People go online repeating them and defending him and they end up looking stupid after reality contradicts them. And yet they keep doing it. The mind boggles.

mcmoustache

Christy42 wrote: »

Please point out which trends Trump has turned around. There is little data in this post. Why were the Obama years a disaster? Which figures in particular has Trump turned around.

As others have pointed out it seems to be mostly trends from the Obama era continuing upward so far.

He won't. He just read something online and just mindlessly repeated it here without a second thought. It's amazing really how often Trumpers get proven wrong and keep coming back to repeat what are, more often than not, misleading statements. If honesty was something that they considered to be desirable, they wouldn't be Trumpers in the first place so it makes sense that so much of what they say online would turn out to be false.

rossie1977

It's ridiculous for anyone to give credit to Trump for the unemployment rate or Dow this early into his tenure.

Funny thing is Republicans and right wing media were all saying the Dow didn't matter and the unemployment rates were bs with in reality 98 million out of work for years..now they use the numbers in their favour. Utter hypocrites

Itssoeasy

As much as I don't like Donald trump, I honestly think the man doesn't realise what he is doing. I genuinely mean that.

The people I hate among trumps administration and his supporters is newt gingrich. He's an utter horrible human being and has this bizzare view of what is happening in the USA.

rossie1977

Gingrich is a detestable individual. This f**ker has the audacity to claim you can't impeach a president for obstruction of justice when he himself impeached Bill Clinton...for obstruction of justice http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/gingrich-defends-trump-again/index.html

But Gingrich is a nobody today so he doesn't matter. The most dangerous individual in government today is Mitch McConnell

Trent Houseboat

rossie1977 wrote: »

The most dangerous individual in government today is Mitch McConnell

I used to think he was a bit of a svengali. The stealing of a supreme court seat being a stroke of evil genius but his recent failures just prove that's it's easier to obstruct than it is to do any actual work.
Thankfully he wasn't component enough to uninsure tens of millions of Americans this time around.

Christy42

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

I used to think he was a bit of a svengali. The stealing of a supreme court seat being a stroke of evil genius but his recent failures just prove that's it's easier to obstruct than it is to do any actual work.
Thankfully he wasn't component enough to uninsured tens of millions of Americans this time around.

Billy 86 keeps calling the Republicans the party of no. It is amusing to see they remain consistent even when they are in power. Not sure the credit for the current obstructions can really go that heavily to the Democrats.

eagle eye

mcmoustache wrote:

No you didn't just look at employment figures and come to the conclusion that Trump turned things around. Why would you lie about something like that? You should admit that you read something on the internet and mindlessly repeated it here in an attempt to look clever.

mcmoustache wrote:

As has been pointed out, unemployment is continuing the trend started by Obama. If you had looked at the statistics, you would know this but you instead chose to repeat Trump talking points which, lets face it, are generally dishonest. You spreading this dishonesty, whether knowingly or not, just makes you look ignorant of the facts about reality.

mcmoustache wrote:

I don't understand how people don't get this. Trump lies all the time. His talking points are mostly bogus. People go online repeating them and defending him and they end up looking stupid after reality contradicts them. And yet they keep doing it. The mind boggles.

You and others keep talking about how bad Trump is and how he is destroying the US. If there is improvement in unemployment levels, how has that continued when its clear he is making a mess of everything?

Its like you want to blame him for every wrong and then take away any measure of credit for anything that is going well.

I'm not a Trump supporter at all but I believe that people like you have become irrational in their hatred of the man.

Billy86

eagle eye wrote: »

You and others keep talking about how bad Trump is and how he is destroying the US. If there is improvement in unemployment levels, how has that continued when its clear he is making a mess of everything?

Its like you want to blame him for every wrong and then take away any measure of credit for anything that is going well.

I'm not a Trump supporter at all but I believe that people like you have become irrational in their hatred of the man.

A president typically doesn't have much impact on the likes of job numbers etc in his first few months or even year (the trends for Clinton, Bush and Obama the year before they took officer also continued for their first year). It's going to be 'interesting' to see what happens down the line there, though the US may be fortunate enough that Trump appears too useless to actually get anything passed (or even know what economic policy is).

Peregrinus

eagle eye wrote: »

You and others keep talking about how bad Trump is and how he is destroying the US. If there is improvement in unemployment levels, how has that continued when its clear he is making a mess of everything?

Its like you want to blame him for every wrong and then take away any measure of credit for anything that is going well.

I'm not a Trump supporter at all but I believe that people like you have become irrational in their hatred of the man.

What characterises Trump is his massive incompetence and ineptitude. If employment is rising it's not in response to anything Trump has done because, quite simply, Trump hasn't done anything. He has no clue how to be an effective president. The legislative initiatives he has promoted have all failed to pass. The US still doesn't have a budget. Legislation enacted since Trump came into office has been largely trivial. He mostly divides his time between golfing, tweeting and attending his own rallies, and none of these activities will do much to promote job creation.

BuilderPlumber

aloyisious wrote: »

Sounds like Don is going to sign the new sanctions bill against Russia, Iran and North Korea, according to RTE. Following on from yesterday act by Russia taking action against the US diplomats there, plus seizure of US property in advance of the bill being signed, is the reciprocative action Russia threatened last week if the US didn't return/re-open the Russian Govt properties in the US. Not sure if the action is an attempt to bully Don into being a compliant child or a provocation which Don is likely to react to in writing.

Donald Trump would want to contact Witness Protection and skin on those racist idiots he is fronting for. Soon. Before he turns us into Mad Max world. He owes it to us and to himself too. Iran and Russia are not his enemy, Steve Bannon KKK is. And our enemy too. So Donald GET RID of our common enemy ASAP.

Peregrinus

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Wouldn't take a genius to identify...small hands...

I don't think the photographs were of anybody's hands, Prof.

aloyisious

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Story in the NY Times about all the networking Pence and others in the GOP are doing with an eye towards 2020. The consensus seems to be Trump will be dumped at some stage so they are jockeying for position following that.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/vice-president-mike-pence-denies-running-shadow-campaign-for-presidency-801017.html

In a statement released by the White House, Mr Pence said today's story in The New York Times "is disgraceful and offensive to me, my family, and our entire team".

aloyisious

The GOP voters story, showing the switch by voters.... [excerpt from report] This is Trump country. The president comfortably won Tennessee in last year’s election, taking 61 per cent of the vote.
Like many of the big states of the south, Tennessee is now solidly Republican, but wasn’t always so – Bill Clinton won Tennessee in 1992 and 1996. Its emergence as a solid red state is part of a general drift by white, working-class America from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party – a demographic that was ripe for Trump’s message of economic nationalism.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/a-trump-region-s-fight-against-its-opioid-epidemic-1.3178640

The story is worthwhile reading, as healthcare is a large issue in the state at the moment and is referred to from different aspects and customers reality. The author/reporter is continuing her report [part 2] in tomorrow's Irish Times.

volchitsa

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Trump is a puppet of evil KKK idiots like Bannon who he probably owes money to. He hasn't a clue. If he was a proper businessman he'd make friends with Iran and arrange the continued moderate approach of this regime and get oil deals. His racist employers have something else to say though and he owes them.

Trump policy is really Steve Bannon. 2003 Trump, friend of blues singer Ray Charles, would not like Bannon at all. But Trump has changed and his CURRENT PERSONA IS NOT DONALD TRUMP BUT STEVE BANNON. Bannon is basically KKK. Filth and dragging America and the world into apocalypse if we let him. Iran first, then China and then Russia. We have a right Elliot Carver (Bond villain) here. Sad to say Bannon is Irish descent. Our lowest moment to be associated with KKK lowlife like him. Bannon has no respect for his background as his grand parents like Africans were glad to be flee persecution. Ironically, Bannon probably also does not know the Celts, his race, originated in ... IRAN!!

The REAL Trump would GRASP a deal with Iran. Trump fronting for Bannon would go with that racist's policy. Trump can do one thing though (despite his employers, he has legally the power to do them in): disband US government, outlaw the Republican party (aka Ku Klux Klan) and set a new election in 2018. Trump does not believe in this cause he FRONTS for and it is a matter of time that the real Donald's conscience gets to him for fronting for KKK lowlife. The REAL Donald Trump was a Democrat not a KKK.

Some good points there, but I would say that anyone over the age of 21 who can change so radically and for no overwhelming reason such as trauma in just a few years never had a REAL identity in the first place.

For Forks Sake

aloyisious wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/vice-president-mike-pence-denies-running-shadow-campaign-for-presidency-801017.html

In a statement released by the White House, Mr Pence said today's story in The New York Times "is disgraceful and offensive to me, my family, and our entire team".

and therefore probably 100% true.

Christy42

eagle eye wrote: »

You and others keep talking about how bad Trump is and how he is destroying the US. If there is improvement in unemployment levels, how has that continued when its clear he is making a mess of everything?

Its like you want to blame him for every wrong and then take away any measure of credit for anything that is going well.

I'm not a Trump supporter at all but I believe that people like you have become irrational in their hatred of the man.

Trump is attempting to make a mess of a lot of things but I have yet to see anyone claim he is making a mess of the jobs front yet. At best I have seen comments that getting the coal mines employing people again is a pipe dream bur that is not where the continued improvement in the unemployment rate has come from.

You appear to making an argument against something that wasn't there. I am largely neutral on Trump's job creation record (as have any of the usual anti Trump supporters I have seen) as he simply has not had a chance in this regard. Thus we have tended to discuss other topics as there us little to say on Trump with regards unemployment just yet.

rossie1977

Trump is trying to cut funding to economic programs in coal country so in truth more jobs will be lost in the area not gained over the next few years. Coal is dead http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-appalachia-idUSKBN16N2VF

The carrier deal was a disaster. He gave millions in grants to carrier and they sent the jobs to Mexico anyway

Silver Lynel

eagle eye wrote: »

You and others keep talking about how bad Trump is and how he is destroying the US. If there is improvement in unemployment levels, how has that continued when its clear he is making a mess of everything?

Its like you want to blame him for every wrong and then take away any measure of credit for anything that is going well.

I'm not a Trump supporter at all but I believe that people like you have become irrational in their hatred of the man.

I honestly don't think that he has done anything good though.

An improvement in unemployment levels will go up and down but the damage Trump is doing in other areas might take decades to undo.

The fact that they have basically elected a goofball celebrity will have a long lasting social effect too.

I fear that future election campaigns will be the Right's best celebrity candidate vs the Left's best celebrity candidate.

I agree with you though that people have a totally irrational and hysterical hatred for Trump but there are always going to be dumb people. There were folks who irrationally hated Obama.

Ultimately the responsibility lies with the political establishment who were too incompetent to stop Trump.

Silver Lynel

BuilderPlumber wrote:

Trump is a puppet of evil KKK idiots like Bannon who he probably owes money to. He hasn't a clue. If he was a proper businessman he'd make friends with Iran and arrange the continued moderate approach of this regime and get oil deals. His racist employers have something else to say though and he owes them.

Trump policy is really Steve Bannon. 2003 Trump, friend of blues singer Ray Charles, would not like Bannon at all. But Trump has changed and his CURRENT PERSONA IS NOT DONALD TRUMP BUT STEVE BANNON. Bannon is basically KKK. Filth and dragging America and the world into apocalypse if we let him. Iran first, then China and then Russia. We have a right Elliot Carver (Bond villain) here. Sad to say Bannon is Irish descent. Our lowest moment to be associated with KKK lowlife like him. Bannon has no respect for his background as his grand parents like Africans were glad to be flee persecution. Ironically, Bannon probably also does not know the Celts, his race, originated in ... IRAN!!

The REAL Trump would GRASP a deal with Iran. Trump fronting for Bannon would go with that racist's policy. Trump can do one thing though (despite his employers, he has legally the power to do them in): disband US government, outlaw the Republican party (aka Ku Klux Klan) and set a new election in 2018. Trump does not believe in this cause he FRONTS for and it is a matter of time that the real Donald's conscience gets to him for fronting for KKK lowlife. The REAL Donald Trump was a Democrat not a KKK.

volchitsa wrote: »

Some good points there, but I would say that anyone over the age of 21 who can change so radically and for no overwhelming reason such as trauma in just a few years never had a REAL identity in the first place.

Some good points there? Really?

You really think there were some good points there?

I'm sorry lads but if that utterly delusional tripe is considered valid criticism of Trump then you are just as bad as the hysterical Republicans on the other side.

Thargor

Haha this John Oliver bit about Scaramouchis replacement is classic, he's only 31 years old! Have a look at the video they dug up of him at 2:30:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-oliver-stephen-millers-truly-one-of-the-most-revolting-humans-minions-i-have-ever-seen/

wes

rossie1977 wrote: »

Trump is trying to cut funding to economic programs in coal country so in truth more jobs will be lost in the area not gained over the next few years. Coal is dead http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-budget-appalachia-idUSKBN16N2VF

The carrier deal was a disaster. He gave millions in grants to carrier and they sent the jobs to Mexico anyway

The Foxconn deal is another mess as well.

ancapailldorcha

Thargor wrote: »

Haha this John Oliver bit about Scaramouchis replacement is classic, he's only 31 years old! Have a look at the video they dug up of him at 2:30:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-oliver-stephen-millers-truly-one-of-the-most-revolting-humans-minions-i-have-ever-seen/

wes wrote: »

The Foxconn deal is another mess as well.

Please try and post more constructively than just posting links and one-liners.

wes

Sorry, will elaborate first the customary link:

Foxconn's $10bn move to the US is not a reason to celebrate


So as per the article above Foxconn are getting $3 billions and thats for 13k jobs with a start of 3k jobs. Now that is a hell of a lot of money per job that the tax payer will be helping foot the bill for, and that is even if that many job are created, seeing as Foxconn push for automation has seen job losses in China.

Then there is the situation with treatment of there employees in the past, and this is not quite the good news the people of Wisconsin may believe it to be.

aloyisious

For Forks Sake wrote: »

and therefore probably 100% true.

Kelly-Anne Conway's remarks about Mike's abilities might not be liked elsewhere in the W/House.... "Vice President Pence is a very loyal, very dutiful, but also incredibly effective vice president, and active vice president, with this president,

Every time I see Don in speaker/leadership roles at ceremonies and functions, Mel Brooks as the Governor in the film [Blazing Saddles] comes to mind "work, work, work" - "I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy".