Donald Trump Presidency discussion thread II

Itssoeasy

everlast75 wrote: »

Can someone explain the strategy behind Bannon having that recent "off the record" chat with the journalist please?

The same as the mooch, giving an interview which is profanity Landon or criticising trump is the safe word in the trump White House. It's a cry for help basically.

Robert McGrath

BabyCheeses wrote: »

Bold move cotton, he annoyed Trump and his own readership with that one.

I know it's off topic, but Dodgeball reference? Excellent

everlast75

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The same as the mooch, giving an interview which is profanity Landon or criticising trump is the safe word in the trump White House. It's a cry for help basically.

So Bannon thought he was survive trump going by criticising him?

Stheno

everlast75 wrote: »

So Bannon thought he was survive trump going by criticising him?

Its repoerted by the bbc that bannon agreed to leave today tqo weeks ago so the interview could have been him lashing out

Rjd2

everlast75 wrote: »

So Bannon thought he was survive trump going by criticising him?

Think he wanted to take the heat of Trump maybe and get the focus on him? Who knows, from all accounts an attention seeker to say the least and that is from people on the hard right.

Supposedly got a lot of targets does Bannon, Drudge, Murdoch, Mc Master to name just a few. Unclear what his plans with Trump are, whether to go to war with him or try to influence policy and him outside the white house.

Doltanian

I bet Steve Bannon did nazi see that coming :pac:

Samaris

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ah poor Steve. Hopefully mr miller and mr gorka aren't far behind. Also kellyanne Conway can't be that safe and she's gone very quiet lately.

Hah, she has, hasn't she! Interesting, that.

I don't think Gorka or Miller (or Hicks) will be out yet unless they choose to be. They might if they decide to show loyalty to Bannon, but I don't see it happening, tbh.

Conway though - anyone know offhand who her allies are, if allies she has? She was always a bit of a wild card too, but extraordinarily good at bare-faced lying.

Sonics2k

/r/The_Donald is some bloody hysterical reading right now.

Leroy42

With Bannon going, where does this leave Trump in relation to the plan his supporters bought into?

My understanding was that Bannon was the key strategist behind Trump.

It seems odd that such a key person would be removed? Or am I reading too much into his actual importance to Trump?

LeinsterDub

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/18/presidents-arts-and-humanities-committee-resigns-over-trumps-charlottesville-response-241781

3 committees and a chief advisor in a week!

Jayop

LeinsterDub wrote: »

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/18/presidents-arts-and-humanities-committee-resigns-over-trumps-charlottesville-response-241781

3 committees and a chief advisor in a week!

In fairness, he's draining the swamp.

Samaris

Jayop wrote: »

In fairness, he's draining the swamp.

Given how the committees were dissolving, I think the swamp may be draining away from him!

Stheno

LeinsterDub wrote: »

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/18/presidents-arts-and-humanities-committee-resigns-over-trumps-charlottesville-response-241781

3 committees and a chief advisor in a week!

The pcah is an official white house agency not a random committee!

everlast75

I think it's tipping point now.

This is the republicans telling trump to get into line.

He will either storm off or play ball.

Even if it's the latter it'll only be a matter of time before he puts his foot in his mouth bigly. If the numbers continue to drop he will be forced out

Leroy42

Jared & Ivanka are also coming under increasing pressure to take a stand in relation to Trumps statements on the KKK etc.

They are on holiday at the moment, apparently that means that have no ability to make a statement regarding racism and Trumps stance, but they will return to WH eventually and will be continually asked about it. Jared can get away with it, but brand Ivanka could be hit if she isn't seen to take a stand.

Ben Carson has also said nothing at all. Surely he cannot accept Trumps racist stance?

buried

Trump is in real, real serious trouble. No support or respect from the federal security service's of the nation and now he'll have no support or respect from the right wing lunatic fringe element either. He won't last Halloween.

StringerBell

Ben "slavery is a form of immigration" Carson will certainly have no problem keeping his mouth shut about Trumps statements

Stheno

Leroy42 wrote: »

Jared & Ivanka are also coming under increasing pressure to take a stand in relation to Trumps statements on the KKK etc.

They are on holiday at the moment, apparently that means that have no ability to make a statement regarding racism and Trumps stance, but they will return to WH eventually and will be continually asked about it. Jared can get away with it, but brand Ivanka could be hit if she isn't seen to take a stand.

Ben Carson has also said nothing at all. Surely he cannot accept Trumps racist stance?

Didnt realise they were on holiday when are they back?

Samaris

buried wrote: »

Trump is in real, real serious trouble. No support or respect from the federal security service's of the nation and now he'll have no support or respect from the right wing lunatic fringe element either. He won't last Halloween.

A recent poll indicates that 24% of Americans will stand by him no matter what. That was the percentage that responded that there was nothing (they could think of) that would make them turn against him.

That is... kinda at brainwashing level.

everlast75

Plus Jared is Jewish....

Stheno

everlast75 wrote: »

Plus Jared is Jewish....

So is Ivanka and their kids

VinLieger

Samaris wrote: »

A recent poll indicates that 24% of Americans will stand by him no matter what. That was the percentage that responded that there was nothing (they could think of) that would make them turn against him.

That is... kinda at brainwashing level.

52% of republicans said they would be okay with him postponing the 2020 election regardless of the reason he did it

Jayop

VinLieger wrote: »

52% of republicans said they would be okay with him postponing the 2020 election regardless of the reason he did it

Jesus that's scary stuff.

rossie1977

Amazing image just 7 months in

Jayop

Will the next X be Pence or trump?

everlast75

Can't post pic but..

https://twitter.com/kalpenn/status/898593985270120449

Beechwoodspark

Have they made a Pepe frog vomiting emoji yet ?;)

Stheno

everlast75 wrote: »

Can't post pic but..

https://twitter.com/kalpenn/status/898593985270120449

Is that a first, for a white house agency have all its staff resign in protest at the presidents actions?

everlast75

Apparently.

The first letter on each paragraph spells "resist" btw

Samaris

VinLieger wrote: »

52% of republicans said they would be okay with him postponing the 2020 election regardless of the reason he did it

While yes, that was a rather horrifying moment, this article on it is worth a read. Particularly worth noting this bit; " 2016, for example, a pollster found that two-thirds of Democratic voters would trade an unconstitutional third term for Obama if it meant avoiding either Clinton or Bush."

It would appear that people do say a lot of silly things in polling, especially if the questions are leading or the responders are being primed in a certain direction.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/poll-republicans/536472/

everlast75 wrote: »

Apparently.

The first letter on each paragraph spells "resist" btw

...That was a hell of a spot! Also, quite a lot of lol.

Beechwoodspark

Leroy42 wrote: »

Jared & Ivanka are also coming under increasing pressure to take a stand in relation to Trumps statements on the KKK etc.

They are on holiday at the moment, apparently that means that have no ability to make a statement regarding racism and Trumps stance, but they will return to WH eventually and will be continually asked about it. Jared can get away with it, but brand Ivanka could be hit if she isn't seen to take a stand.

Ben Carson has also said nothing at all. Surely he cannot accept Trumps racist stance?

Carson seems happy just to have a job

Itssoeasy

I see people posted the resignation letter from the White House agency. They don't pull punches.

Samaris

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Carson seems happy just to have a job

I'm not absolutely certain Carson is paying attention. Ever. Presumably he does when doing surgery, but in terms of politics, the man seems to be on cloud 9.


Just saw there - Melania Trump is the Honorary Chairman of that agency that just upped sticks! I assume she didn't have a say in it?

Rjd2

Leroy42 wrote: »

Ben Carson has also said nothing at all. Surely he cannot accept Trumps racist stance?

https://www.facebook.com/pg/realbencarson/posts/

To be fair, he has wrote plenty on Facebook about it.

Jayop

Samaris wrote: »

I'm not absolutely certain Carson is paying attention. Ever. Presumably he does when doing surgery, but in terms of politics, the man seems to be on cloud 9.


Just saw there - Melania Trump is the Honorary Chairman of that committee that just upped sticks! I assume she didn't have a say in it?

Would be hilarious is she was one of the signatories.

Quin_Dub

Doltanian wrote: »

I bet Steve Bannon did nazi see that coming :pac:

Sonics2k wrote: »

/r/The_Donald is some bloody hysterical reading right now.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Have they made a Pepe frog vomiting emoji yet ?;)

##Mod Note##

Less of this please.

froog

Quin_Dub wrote:

Less of this please.

Just curious, is laughing at the alt right not cool here?

Calina

I can't help feeling that Bannon's exit is stage managed, particularly given his interview during the week. That was just like providing plausibilty.

Quin_Dub

froog wrote: »

Just curious, is laughing at the alt right not cool here?

Not really..

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Thargor

2 weeks until all the fun and games of another debt ceiling raise then onto the budget...

Nody

froog wrote: »

Just curious, is laughing at the alt right not cool here?

Taking a not so wild guess of not meeting forum standards due to being one liners without any discussion rather than laughing about alt right being the issue. It has come up over quite a few threads and times lately but only guessing as I'm not modding this forum.

*edit*Quin already answered it above.

Samaris

https://www.facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121

Mitt Romney just came out of left field. That is actually...a hell of a statement. /applauds

Nody

Samaris wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121

Mitt Romney just came out of left field. That is actually...a hell of a statement. /applauds

Sounds like foundation for a 2020 presidential campaign base as well... Possibly tie in with the claim that Trump is only 6 senators away from impeachment at the moment.

For Forks Sake

Samaris wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121

Mitt Romney just came out of left field. That is actually...a hell of a statement. /applauds

Some of the comments would make you weep for humanity.

red ears

Samaris wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121

Mitt Romney just came out of left field. That is actually...a hell of a statement. /applauds

He and plenty more will have a different perspective on Antifa in a years time. They are only just learning about them now. Many of us have been following them since Trumps election and know what they are all about already.

Jayop

Samaris wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121

Mitt Romney just came out of left field. That is actually...a hell of a statement. /applauds

Wow. That's a hell of a strongly worded letter.

He doesn't have much time for Catholics though does Mitt...:)

In homes across the nation, children are asking their parents what this means. Jews, blacks, Hispanics, Muslims are as much a part of America as whites and Protestants.

mayo.mick

https://twitter.com/BR_DougFarrar/status/898588501356101632

Gbear

mayo.mick wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BR_DougFarrar/status/898588501356101632

If that's a masterpiece wait til they get a look at my Junior Cert English homework.:rolleyes:

Stheno

Samaris wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/mittromney/posts/10154652303536121

Mitt Romney just came out of left field. That is actually...a hell of a statement. /applauds

Thats the strongest statement yet suggests a bit of a sea change.

The comments are mental

Thargor

Nody wrote: »

Sounds like foundation for a 2020 presidential campaign base as well... Possibly tie in with the claim that Trump is only 6 senators away from impeachment at the moment.

Romney bent the knee, pics like this dont go away, his career is finished:



Id say the next Republican candidate will be some straight up GI Joe character like Mad Dog, bet they all wish McCain was 10 years younger now. The list of non-repulsive individuals is extremely short for the GOP, Trump supporter types hate the likes of Ryan and everyone else these days, the Democrats arent much better, could be an opening for Sanders but again, he's ancient now, maybe it will be a relative unknown like Obama was or 2 female candidates.