General Premier League Thread - 2017/2018

Agent Coulson · 04-02-2018 7:30pm

Liverpool

Lets see will the English media call their Golden boys Kane & Alli diving cheats like Johnny Foreigner or just clever boys.

KERSPLAT! · 04-02-2018 7:31pm

Liverpool

sligeach wrote: »

The linesman has some answering to do. Didn't rule out the offside penalty, then gives an invisible sniper penalty for Lamela penalty.

Berserker · 04-02-2018 7:32pm

niallo27 wrote: »

I think Salah must be the best player in the league by now. He has been incredible again today.

Can't think of anyone better myself.

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Come out of the fog with that rubbish. VVD is swinging his leg to clear the ball he doesn't know Lamela is going to jump in front of him the way he did. Absolute rubbish statement you just made.

VVD kicked him instead of the ball. You can't do that. It's a penalty every day of the week. Some of the Liverpool lads on the thread acknowledge that it was a penalty. The first penalty was a nonsense call alright.

Kiith · 04-02-2018 7:32pm

2nd was stonewall penalty lads. You can't kick someone on the back of the leg while trying to clear it.

https://gyazo.com/f0f62f672a6cd21867a3a91e95310d2d

AidoEirE · 04-02-2018 7:33pm

Everton

Serious goal by Wanyama though after just coming on the pitch

Turtwig · 04-02-2018 7:36pm

How someone can suggest that second spurs penalty wasn't a penalty is beyond me. It was arguably the most stonewall penalty this current season.
Fair dues to the assistant referee for calling moss back on it.

Agent Coulson · 04-02-2018 7:38pm

Liverpool

Has Redknapp the balls to ask Kane did he dive.

VVD doesn't even touch him from the angle they just showed.

Paully D · 04-02-2018 7:39pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Come out of the fog with that rubbish. VVD is swinging his leg to clear the ball he doesn't know Lamela is going to jump in front of him the way he did. Absolute rubbish statement you just made.

That's on Van Djik.

If that was the case, if a player does a piece of trickery and goes down under an attempted challenge you'd have people saying "oh he didn't know he was going to dribble there, you can't give a penalty for that."

It was a penalty as he booted Lamela while attempting to clear the ball. The main issue was van Djik's (lack of) awareness.

Rekop dog · 04-02-2018 7:39pm

Spurs

Turtwig wrote: »

How someone can suggest that second spurs penalty wasn't a penalty is beyond me. It was arguably the most stonewall penalty this current season.
Fair dues to the assistant referee for calling moss back on it.

Probably more liverpool fans on here than any club so there's always going to be a blinkered aspect to their decisions but some have fairly embarrassed themselves here.

blueser · 04-02-2018 7:39pm

Turtwig wrote: »

How someone can suggest that second spurs penalty wasn't a penalty is beyond me. It was arguably the most stonewall penalty this current season.
Fair dues to the assistant referee for calling moss back on it.

Agreed. And, apparently, the first call was correct. Lovren touched the ball, playing Kane onside.

Agent Coulson · 04-02-2018 7:41pm

Liverpool

Lol at Kane trying to say he tripped me and can't keep a straight face.

VVD doesn't touch him.
https://twitter.com/davidmc1888/status/960218552426008576

Kiith · 04-02-2018 7:42pm

blueser wrote: »

Agreed. And, apparently, the first call was correct. Lovren touched the ball, playing Kane onside.

Regardless of he touched the ball, he was offside when the pass was made. That means it should have been ruled offside, right?

Mr.Crinklewood · 04-02-2018 7:42pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Lol at Kane trying to say he tripped me and can't keep a straight face.

VVD doesn't touch him.
https://twitter.com/davidmc1888/status/960218552426008576

Cheers. Had not seen it.

Deserved penalty.

Kiith · 04-02-2018 7:43pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

VVD doesn't touch him.
https://twitter.com/davidmc1888/status/960218552426008576

How can you say that seeing this clip? His foot clearly hits Lamela in the back of the leg, and bounces back.

blueser · 04-02-2018 7:44pm

Kiith wrote: »

Regardless of he touched the ball, he was offside when the pass was made. That means it should have been ruled offside, right?

True.

04-02-2018 7:44pm

Everton

Love that 90th minute equaliser

Giggsy11 · 04-02-2018 7:45pm

blueser wrote: »

Agreed. And, apparently, the first call was correct. Lovren touched the ball, playing Kane onside.

Kiith wrote: »

Regardless of he touched the ball, he was offside when the pass was made. That means it should have been ruled offside, right?

Yes it was offside. Even if it touched Lovren it won't count as the pass should be deliberate, not a deflected one.

niallo27 · 04-02-2018 7:45pm

Arsenal

Looks like it was offside for the second pen. Oh well. It's been a while since Liverpool got a bit of luck.

Rekop dog · 04-02-2018 7:46pm

Spurs

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Lol at Kane trying to say he tripped me and can't keep a straight face.

VVD doesn't touch him

Maybe sit the next few plays out there buddy

blueser · 04-02-2018 7:47pm

niallo27 wrote: »

Looks like it was offside for the second pen. Oh well. It's been a while since Liverpool got a bit of luck.

Eh?

MonkieSocks · 04-02-2018 7:47pm

Salah First Goal
No Sound

Victor's Rocket

Salah Second Goal

Kane Equaliser

niallo27 · 04-02-2018 7:47pm

Arsenal

blueser wrote: »

Eh?

He was offside from the flick on.

Trigger · 04-02-2018 7:49pm

Liverpool

niallo27 wrote: »

He was offside from the flick on.

Looks like just his arm was in an offside position and as you can’t score with your arm it’s onside..

niallo27 · 04-02-2018 7:50pm

Arsenal

astradave wrote: »

Looks like just his arm was in an offside position and as you can’t score with your arm it’s onside..

Perhaps impossible to call anyway so I wouldn't blame him. just frustrating.

Esse85 · 04-02-2018 7:50pm

Fantastic decision making from the officials, both correct decisions.

PhuckHugh · 04-02-2018 7:51pm

I don't think either were a peno... Offside and a dive the first one.. the optics look bad in second one but VVD is all eyes for the ball , starts to swing and the attacker jumps in front of him from behind and initiates the contact... It looks bad because there's contact but the attacker initiates.

blueser · 04-02-2018 7:51pm

niallo27 wrote: »

He was offside from the flick on.

Lovren was nearer to the goal than him. Not offside. I'll need to see it again on MOTD later on to be certain though.

Kiith · 04-02-2018 7:52pm

Apparently the offside rule was changed last year to say that if an opposing player tried to play the ball, it won't be offside. So Kane wasn't offside? News to me.

Augme · 04-02-2018 7:53pm

Esse85 wrote: »

Fantastic decision making from the officials, both correct decisions.

Huh? The second penalty decision was absolutely terrible. It was a clear dive.

Kiith · 04-02-2018 7:54pm

Augme wrote: »

Huh? The second penalty decision was absolutely terrible. It was a clear dive.

It really wasn't.

niallo27 · 04-02-2018 7:54pm

Arsenal

blueser wrote: »

Lovren was nearer to the goal than him. Not offside.

Well no he wasn't you obviously didn't see the line. It was marginal not a big deal

04-02-2018 7:54pm

Everton

The face on Souness is priceless
Delighted for him

Augme · 04-02-2018 7:56pm

Kiith wrote: »

It really wasn't.

This isn't a dive?

Okay.... :pac::pac::pac:

Cantona's Collars · 04-02-2018 7:57pm

Kiith wrote: »

Apparently the offside rule was changed last year to say that if an opposing player tried to play the ball, it won't be offside. So Kane wasn't offside? News to me.

The linesman asked the ref if there was contact on the ball by a Liverpool player before it reached Kane. If not,he was offside,if so then he was onside and it was a penalty.
Sky played back the conversation.

blueser · 04-02-2018 7:57pm

Kiith wrote: »

Apparently the offside rule was changed last year to say that if an opposing player tried to play the ball, it won't be offside. So Kane wasn't offside? News to me.

I didn't know that either. Apparently the touch from Lovren rules out the offside call. According to Dermot Gallagher anyway.

niallo27 · 04-02-2018 7:58pm

Arsenal

Augme wrote: »

This isn't a dive?

Okay.... :pac::pac::pac:

**** that view does look dodgy.

Mushy · 04-02-2018 7:58pm

Augme wrote: »

This isn't a dive?

Okay.... :pac::pac::pac:

He kicks him, it's why vvd leg swings to the right suddenly

Kiith · 04-02-2018 7:59pm

Augme wrote: »

This isn't a dive?

Okay.... :pac::pac::pac:

No, it's not a dive. VVD clearly kicks the back of his leg with the toe of his boot.

smileyj1987 · 04-02-2018 8:01pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Love that 90th minute equaliser

Meh id rather draw a game then loose with a gutless park the bus performance

Giggsy11 · 04-02-2018 8:01pm

Augme wrote: »

This isn't a dive?

Okay.... :pac::pac::pac:

https://giant.gfycat.com/DimwittedImpressiveDunnart.webm

This isn't a dive. VVD clearly kicked Lamela.

niallo27 · 04-02-2018 8:02pm

Arsenal

Kiith wrote: »

No, it's not a dive. VVD clearly kicks the back of his leg with the toe of his boot.

The reaction is priceless though in fairness.

Unearthly · 04-02-2018 8:02pm

Everton

Sky are doing a Kane 100 prem goal show.

Classy station honouring his great achievement today

Giggsy11 · 04-02-2018 8:02pm

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Meh id rather draw a game then loose with a gutless park the bus performance

34% possession at home, whole second half was played in Liverpool half and you are moaning about parking the bus.

Kiith · 04-02-2018 8:03pm

niallo27 wrote: »

The reaction is priceless though in fairness.

Oh the reaction was typically over the top from Lamela (from what i remember, it's been ages since i've seen it).

Still a penalty.

Esse85 · 04-02-2018 8:05pm

Augme wrote: »

Huh? The second penalty decision was absolutely terrible. It was a clear dive.

VVD kicked him and didn't make any contact with the ball, therefore it's a peno. I can see why you'd have missed it tho.

TitianGerm · 04-02-2018 8:07pm

Liverpool

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

The linesman asked the ref if there was contact on the ball by a Liverpool player before it reached Kane. If not,he was offside,if so then he was onside and it was a penalty.
Sky played back the conversation.

When Ali initially plays the pass Kane is offside. The ref should blow up then shouldn't he?

Draw was a fair result overall. Liverpool better in the first and Spurs better in the second. Salah and Wanyama with two super goals.

MonkieSocks · 04-02-2018 8:08pm

Van Dyke kick on Lamela

Lamela kicked in the back of the knee

jaykay74 · 04-02-2018 8:08pm

I wonder if it would have been better for Klopp to tell his players to focus/ organise his defense rather than run the touchline like a maniac at the 2-1 moment ? He does seem to have a tendancy to get caught up in it all rather than retain focus.

Was vaguely like Bilic v Turkey in Euro 2008

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2008/7363499.stm

PhuckHugh · 04-02-2018 8:10pm

Augme wrote: »

This isn't a dive?

Okay.... :pac::pac::pac:

As I said earlier, spurs player knew what he was doing and jumps into vvd.

04-02-2018 8:11pm

Everton

jaykay74 wrote: »

I wonder if it would have been better for Klopp to tell his players to focus/ organise his defense rather than run the touchline like a maniac at the 2-1 moment ? He does seem to have a tendancy to get caught up in it all rather than retain focus.

Was vaguely like Bilic v Turkey in Euro 2008
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2008/7363499.stm

He struggles to adapt tactically mid game. This has been the case most of his career.
Ultimately he didn't do anything when his team were getting hammered by Spurs in the second half.
The equaliser was always coming.

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