General Premier League Thread - 2017/2018

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

The top class keepers just catch the cross though.

KERSPLAT!

Liverpool

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

The top class keepers just catch the cross though.

If he tried to catch it and it dropped to a Spurs player he'd be slated for that too. Punching was the correct option if he wasn't confident of catching it. He got decent distance it just so happened that Wanyama hit a thunderbolt into the top corner from it.

I'd leave very little blame at Karius' door.

Rekop dog

Spurs

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

If he tried to catch it and it dropped to a Spurs player he'd be slated for that too. Punching was the correct option if he wasn't confident of catching it. He got decent distance it just so happened that Wanyama hit a thunderbolt into the top corner from it.

I'd leave very little blame at Karius' door.

Yeah but.... just catch it! I find it ludicrous that people can just put a keeper into a category "he's not good at catching" and then absolve him of any blame when that was by far the most sensible option.

Iused2likebusts

Everton

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

The top class keepers just catch the cross though.

Fair point also. But from looking at it the second time I agree with Emmett somewhat, I think Can was at fault more so than Karius.

BullBlackNova

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

The top class keepers just catch the cross though.

I don't think catching v punching is a matter of quality, it's a matter of training.

Most continental countries focus on getting the ball away. Try to catch the ball when its coming at you at pace or if you're under pressure, you increase your likelihood of dropping it, spilling it or slipping. Especially with the newer footballs which are lighter and move more in the air.

That is not to say that catching isn't the right option or wouldn't have been the right thing to do in this particular case, it's just not entirely accurate to say "He didn't catch it, therefore he is not good." He didn't catch it because he has spent ten years training in a system that taught him to punch first and rely on your defence to look after the second ball. Ultimately they didn't and the shot came back. I wouldn't be blaming Karius for this one.

Giggsy11

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

If he tried to catch it and it dropped to a Spurs player he'd be slated for that too. Punching was the correct option if he wasn't confident of catching it. He got decent distance it just so happened that Wanyama hit a thunderbolt into the top corner from it.

I'd leave very little blame at Karius' door.

Agreed, it was risky to catch the ball as he was rushing out and it was not even at comfortable height.

Thought his punching was weak and misdirected. Always think keepers like CBs shouldn't clear the ball towards the centre, better to clear them to flanks.

TitianGerm

Liverpool

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I had another look at it this morning and tbf you have a point

I actually thought Can was outside the box. Looking at it again he's just inside, but he should definitely put his foot on it.

Agent Coulson

Liverpool

Alli has had a sex tape leaked and Liverpool fans are being blamed for leaking it after yesterday's game.

duffman13

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Alli has had a sex tape leaked and Liverpool fans are being blamed for leaking it after yesterday's game.

what an awfully nice fella to happen to aswell. Probably fake anyway but you would wonder how a Liverpool fan or anyone for that matter got their hands on it

MagicIRL

Everton

duffman13 wrote: »

what an awfully nice fella to happen to aswell. Probably fake anyway but you would wonder how a Liverpool fan or anyone for that matter got their hands on it

Catfished him with a baldcap and a poor Zidane accent?

Trigger

Liverpool

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Alli has had a sex tape leaked and Liverpool fans are being blamed for leaking it after yesterday's game.

Who’s doing the blaming? Tbf How stupid do you have to be to know that it’s very very likely that it will be leaked..

Loafing Oaf

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Alli has had a sex tape leaked and Liverpool fans are being blamed for leaking it after yesterday's game.

Had an e/w bet on the lummox for top prem goalscorer this season. Looks like he's been focused on the wrong kind of scoring!:mad:

Everton

Deli Alli getting taped diving into young wans now too :P

Rekop dog

Spurs

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Deli Alli getting taped diving into young wans now too :P

Oh dear. How dumb do you have to be to let someone record that.

Rekop dog

Everton

Rekop dog wrote: »

Oh dear. How dumb do you have to be to let someone record that.

Especially considering he's in the limelight already.
It will end up being a big pay out to whoever leaks it.

Cantona's Collars

duffman13 wrote: »

what an awfully nice fella to happen to aswell. Probably fake anyway but you would wonder how a Liverpool fan or anyone for that matter got their hands on it

They'd steal anything those scousers. :)

Rekop dog

Spurs

Goals Galore at Vicarage Road tonight. Watford have conceded 20 goals in their 5 games against the top four so far this year.

1-4 Chelsea

duffman13

Rekop dog wrote: »

Goals Galore at Vicarage Road tonight. Watford have conceded 20 goals in their 5 games against the top four so far this year.

1-4 Chelsea

Certainly looking like it although Watford looking the most likely to score at the minute

SlickRic

That might be the worst performance I've ever seen in the Premier League.

It's up there anyway.

SlickRic

Everton

SlickRic wrote: »

That might be the worst performance I've ever seen in the Premier League.

It's up there anyway.

What happened?

*Edit* only turned on the tv

Tom Mann Centuria

Liverpool

M!Ck^ wrote: »

What happened?

*Edit* only turned on the tv

Bakayoko master class. Shouldn't have been a second yellow though.

theballz

Bit harsh

Harry Palmr

SlickRic wrote: »

That might be the worst performance I've ever seen in the Premier League.

It's up there anyway.

A big claim that needs backing up, remembering there have been games between West Brom and Reading.

theballz

Rumored that Conte will be sacked if they lose this

Harry Palmr

Better not be true, they might go on a run, how is Bellwether Hazard playing?

martyos121

Liverpool

Watford 1-0 up, Deeney penalty.

Guus Hiddink has one new email.

davycc

Man City

Come on the Watford!

ERG89

Very soft peno. But it's a pen now days.
Unlike the commentator I don't feel it's a deserved lead as this game has been a total borefest.

theballz

martyos121 wrote: »

Watford 1-0 up, Deeney penalty.

Guus Hiddink has one new email.

Sarri from Napoli is the man for them, super manager

martyos121

Liverpool

theballz wrote: »

Sarri from Napoli is the man for them, super manager

Why would he leave Napoli for Chelsea though? He’s adored at the San Paolo, he surely wouldn’t throw that away for a job he’ll be sacked from within two seasons, no matter how well he does.

SlickRic

M!Ck^ wrote: »

What happened?

*Edit* only turned on the tv

Bakayoko is a pub player.

30 minutes of misplaced passes, fouls, and touches and general shítness.

Rekop dog

Spurs

Yeah couldn't see him leaving right now anyway. Simeone surely, he's the only real heavyweight left not managing in the premier league right now.

Tom Mann Centuria

Liverpool

martyos121 wrote: »

Why would he leave Napoli for Chelsea though?

Money.

Unearthly

Everton

Chelsea look like they are going through the motions before a manager leaves

ben.schlomo

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Better not be true, they might go on a run, how is Bellwether Hazard playing?

Largely anonymous, you could argue he's not trying but then Chelsea sit off so much that they all look that way. Watford thoroughly deserve that lead, they've dominated even before Bakayoko saved himself more embarrassment.

theballz

martyos121 wrote: »

Why would he leave Napoli for Chelsea though? He’s adored at the San Paolo, he surely wouldn’t throw that away for a job he’ll be sacked from within two seasons, no matter how well he does.

Great opportunity for him, he’s been around for some time but never managed an “elite” team. More importantly money talks

Berserker

On a side note, what do people make of Rooney on Sky?

Rekop dog wrote: »

Yeah couldn't see him leaving right now anyway. Simeone surely, he's the only real heavyweight left not managing in the premier league right now.

Simeone with that Chelsea squad and some investment, would be serious title contenders next season. Conte is done.

deaddonkey15

Everton

That was a very harsh second yellow.

theballz

Berserker wrote: »

Simeone with that Chelsea squad and some investment, would be serious title contenders next season. Conte is done.

Doubt he’ll leave Atletico mid season though

Rekop dog

Spurs

theballz wrote: »

Doubt he’ll leave Atletico mid season though

Out of Champions league and title race. Nothing really keeping him there. Far more cause for Sarri to stay at Napoli who you suggested.

Loafing Oaf

Rekop dog wrote: »

Goals Galore at Vicarage Road tonight. Watford have conceded 20 goals in their 5 games against the top four so far this year.

1-4 Chelsea

Be doing well now...

theoneeyedman

ERG89 wrote: »

Very soft peno. But it's a pen now days.
.

I haven't seen this one, Co I can't comment directly, but if the game continues as it's going, it will be like fcxking netball in a few years.
Offside will be done away with, and like if a player gets the ball in the box, the defence has to back away and let him have a free shot on goal, or else a penalty is awarded... You know, kinda like at Anfield yesterday (I'm only partly joking)

Berserker

theballz wrote: »

Doubt he’ll leave Atletico mid season though

No he won't. They'll find someone experienced to come in and cover for the rest of the season. Wouldn't surprise me if Conte went and Chelsea ended up lifting a trophy, FA Cup more than likely and getting top four. If he stays, they'll end up with neither.

ERG89

Berserker wrote:

Simeone with that Chelsea squad and some investment, would be serious title contenders next season. Conte is done.

If Hazard & Courtois want out wouldn't that be an issue?
I think they see what's going on & how aimless the club are in the transfer market after spending a nice bit between the last 2 windows. I doubt Conte wanted the likes of Drinkwater, Barkley & Giroud. Not exactly what he dreamt of after winning the league.
Simeone hasnt exactly covered himself in glory this season either so I don't see the long term fix for Chelsea by just continuing the trend of sacking a manager & replacing him with another.

theballz

Rekop dog wrote: »

Out of Champions league and title race. Nothing really keeping him there. Far more cause for Sarri to stay at Napoli who you suggested.

They’ve had a decent season, blowing Real out of the water and not completely out of the title raise. He’s much more imbedded in that club then Sarri

martyos121

Liverpool

I wouldn’t be pointing the finger at Conte specifically for what’s going wrong. There’s a concrete recent history of second/third season implosions for Chelsea managers, more pronounced than at any other club. It must go higher than the manager, this sort of thing can’t be a coincidence.

theballz

Berserker wrote: »

No he won't. They'll find someone experienced to come in and cover for the rest of the season. Wouldn't surprise me if Conte went and Chelsea ended up lifting a trophy, FA Cup more than likely and getting top four. If he stays, they'll end up with neither.

Completely agree that’s a more realistic outcome

Tom Mann Centuria

Liverpool

There will be at least one more sending off I predict.

Rekop dog

Spurs

theballz wrote: »

They’ve had a decent season, blowing Real out of the water and not completely out of the title raise. He’s much more imbedded in that club then Sarri

He's too imbedded though, nearly done all he can with them and it would be a good time to leave, especially with Griezmann looking likely for a summer exit.

Trigger

Liverpool

2 shots after 60 mins! Wtf