General Premier League Thread - 2017/2018

TitianGerm

Liverpool

astradave wrote: »

Well there has to be a reason why he’s never really taken penalties throughout his career.. maybe he’s not that good at them? So his stats might be just the same? It’s all ifs and buts.. at the end of the day penalties are a skill in itself and they are still classed as a goal..

You could just as well say “ well if he didn’t pass the ball to Firmino/Mane there he would have scored and his stats would be higher”

He takes penalties for Egypt doesn't he? At Roma Totti was the main penalty taker (or most of the ones I saw). Milner was our main taker but I actually can't remember us having many this season now that I think about it.

Edit: We've only had 3 in the league this season. Salah took two (one was saved) and Firmino the other.

Trigger

Liverpool

TitianGerm wrote: »

He takes penalties for Egypt doesn't he? At Roma Totti was the main penalty taker (or most of the ones I saw). Milner was our main taker but I actually can't remember us having many this season now that I think about it.

Edit: We've only had 3 in the league this season. Salah took two (one was saved) and Firmino the other.

So his stats wouldn’t go up if he took them all really. As he has a 50/50 rate he could have missed the other just as easily as score it. At the end of the day the penalty taker still has to put the ball in the net. It’s really not that easy.

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

30 goals with no pens is more impressive than 30 goals that includes 5 pens.

dr.kenneth noisewater

Liverpool

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

30 goals with no pens is more impressive than 30 goals that includes 5 pens.

on paper. 5 penalties that are the winning goal in a game against rival are more impressive than 5 tap-ins against relegation fodder in big wins

Agent Coulson

Liverpool

Zlatan released by Man U.

I guess the bionic Knee wasn't so bionic.

irishman86

Everton

TitianGerm wrote: »

Well if Salah was on penalties he'd probably have a few more goals so if you can exclude penalty goals you can compare like with like?

Should we exclude free kicks aswell then? Maybe Salah isnt the best penalty kick taker at Liverpool. It makes no sense to pick and choose what kind of goal scored

Lukker-

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Zlatan released by Man U.

I guess the bionic Knee wasn't so bionic.

He still recovered exceptionally quickly tbf. Most players will lose a yard after an injury like that, and they can slowly get it back with playtime/physio. But for an older player, who was already lacking pace, it's extra noticeable.

beya2009

Reports emerging both manchester clubs will battle it out for neymar in the summer...no surprise there considering it's the 2 biggest cheque book managers in the world lol

IncognitoMan

International break. Papers need a story. Make one up.

I could see Neymar going to Real Madrid either this summer or next though.

MurDawg

beya2009 wrote: »

Reports emerging both manchester clubs will battle it out for neymar in the summer...no surprise there considering it's the 2 biggest cheque book managers in the world lol

Being England's two top clubs also helps tbf

Loafing Oaf

beya2009 wrote: »

Reports emerging both manchester clubs will battle it out for neymar in the summer...no surprise there considering it's the 2 biggest cheque book managers in the world lol

More urgently needed at United you would think. Would Pogba go to PSG in part exchange?

ERG89

Wouldn't be a bad move for PSG to move him on for a profit as his performances haven't risen. Might be a blessing to get rid of the Brazilian contingent who contributed so little this year.
Neymar pulled out of away trips in Ligue 1 & when the games actually mattered only played for himself against Real; which wouldn't have happened him at Barca.
I'd be surprised if City bought him as the high earners there aren't on near what he's earning at PSG. It'd suit United as they are easy to negotiate with after what Sanchez & Pogba managed to get.

Turtwig

Neymar would be rather problematic for united imo. United need a midfield. Getting neymar would just stretch distance from back line to front even more making it even harder for their defence to stay compact. Might make them more exciting to watch though.

charolais0153

Arsenal

Turtwig wrote: »

Neymar would be rather problematic for united imo. United need a midfield. Getting neymar would just stretch distance from back line to front even more making it even harder for their defence to stay compact. Might make them more exciting to watch though.

Manu u should swap pogba for verratti and rabiot

beya2009

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

More urgently needed at United you would think. Would Pogba go to PSG in part exchange?

I would argue on paper considering the amount Neymar would cost in both transfer fees and wages that neither need him but that's just on paper lol Pep building a young vibrant team but Neymar is obviously better than Sane and Sterling. The arrival of Sanchez at united should also mean they don't need Neymar but again he's better than Sanchez and it doesn't help when a player comes out saying he's struggling mentally.

But yes I agree Man U need Neymar more but if Sanchez already on on something silly like £600k a week then what on earth would Neymar be on? Pogba would surely want to stay and fight for his place rather than doing a Di Maria packing it in to go elsewhere.

beya2009

It would be fascinating to see how Neymar would get on under a Mourinho or Pep as both clearly do not tolerate any nonsense/insubordination. There has been reports than Unai Emery has been very lenient with Neymar basically letting him do what he wants (lots of parties and all that stuff).

KERSPLAT!

Liverpool

charolais0153 wrote: »

Manu u should swap pogba for verratti and rabiot

... at this stage is have Veratti on his own over Pogba, never mind Rabiot too. PSG would be nuts to offer that.

blueser

ERG89 wrote: »

Wouldn't be a bad move for PSG to move him on for a profit as his performances haven't risen. Might be a blessing to get rid of the Brazilian contingent who contributed so little this year.
Neymar pulled out of away trips in Ligue 1 & when the games actually mattered only played for himself against Real; which wouldn't have happened him at Barca.
I'd be surprised if City bought him as the high earners there aren't on near what he's earning at PSG. It'd suit United as they are easy to negotiate with after what Sanchez & Pogba managed to get.

Agreed. We seem to have a pretty tight unit at the Etihad, and I don't think Pep would want to do anything to undermine that. Plus we're not too badly served in the final third of the pitch. We'll need a long term successor for Fernandinho in a year or so; that'd be Pep's main priority, I'd imagine.

citytillidie

Rearranged fixtures

Tuesday 17 April
19:45 Brighton v Spurs (Sky Sports)

Wednesday 18 April
19:45 AFC Bournemouth v Man Utd (BT Sport)

Thursday 19 April
19:45 Burnley v Chelsea (Sky Sports)
19:45 Leicester City v Southampton

Sunday 22 April
13:30 Arsenal v West Ham (Sky Sports)
13:30 Stoke City v Burnley
16:30 Man City v Swansea City (Sky Sports)
*If Man City reach the UEFA Champions League semi-finals, this match will move to 12:30 on 21 April and remain live on Sky Sports
16:30 West Brom v Liverpool (Sky Sports)
*If Liverpool reach the UEFA Champions League semi-finals this match will move to 12:30 on 21 April and remain live on Sky Sports

Monday 23 April
20:00 Everton v Newcastle United (Sky Sports)

Saturday 28 April
12:30 Liverpool v Stoke City (Sky Sports)
*Should Man City reach the UEFA Champions League semi-finals, this match will move to 14:15 on 29 April and remain live on Sky Sports

Sunday 29 April
14:15 West Ham v Man City (Sky Sports)
*Should Man City reach the UEFA Champions League semi-finals, this match will move to 12:30 on 28 April and remain live on Sky Sports

The remaining postponed matches will be confirmed when the broadcast selections for Matchweek 37 have been finalised.

These are due to be announced no later than Tuesday, 3 April, 2018.

Bret Hart

Liverpool

Comfortable win for Liverpool this afternoon. 0-3.

blueser

Weird choice for the live 3pm game today. Even allowing for the amount of united fans in Ireland, surely the Saints/West Ham game is the more important one this afternoon?

pjohnson

blueser wrote: »

Weird choice for the live 3pm game today. Even allowing for the amount of united fans in Ireland, surely the Saints/West Ham game is the more important one this afternoon?

After West Ham fans antics the last time they probably dont wanna risk it.

TitianGerm

Liverpool

pjohnson wrote: »

After West Ham fans antics the last time they probably dont wanna risk it.

That's actually a very good point.

Loafing Oaf

Bret Hart wrote: »

Comfortable win for Liverpool this afternoon. 0-3.

Lucas Hood

Shouldn't Karius be off there?
No genuine attempt to win the ball.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Shouldn't Karius be off there?
No genuine attempt to win the ball.

Yup

Sugarlumps

Dirty cheat, pathetic.

TitianGerm

Liverpool

Sugarlumps wrote: »

Dirty cheat, pathetic.

There was contact but Mane went down after it.

Bret Hart

Liverpool

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

They'll turn it around. Palace will crumble after Liverpool equalize.

Loafing Oaf

Bret Hart wrote: »

They'll turn it around. Palace will crumble after Liverpool equalise.

Meant to add that...

KERSPLAT!

Liverpool

Liverpool struggling to break them down

Deise Vu

Mane is having a game to forget so far. A clearance off the Palace line, an offside goal and a yellow for simulation. Probably a hat trick coming in the second half.

blueser

pjohnson wrote: »

After West Ham fans antics the last time they probably dont wanna risk it.

Fair point.

blueser

Everton

blueser wrote: »

Weird choice for the live 3pm game today. Even allowing for the amount of united fans in Ireland, surely the Saints/West Ham game is the more important one this afternoon?

A TV company showing something which will get it the most viewers is far from wierd

Bret Hart

Liverpool

Bret Hart wrote: »

They'll turn it around. Palace will crumble after Liverpool equalize.

It'll begin very soon.

Skylinehead

Benteke is woeful.

Kiith

Benteke...god damn it.

WoollyRedHat

Man Utd

Bret Hart wrote: »

It'll begin very soon.

If Benteke could actually score Liverpool would behind by now.

Kiith

If that's an intentional handball, he has to go.

Skylinehead

What the?

Swarbrick HAS to send him off there.

ctrl-alt-delete

Kiith wrote: »

If that's an intentional handball, he has to go.

It was, and he didn't.

Poor decision from the ref.

tayto lover

Referee bottled it again in favour of the big boys.
Mane should be off.
Dreadful refereeing again.

SlickRic

It waa a foul, but should be off.

Skylinehead

He's basically ignored the rules. He'd be well aware of the fact too, just too cowardly to follow through. Shouldn't ref another PL game again after that.

blueser

Swarbrick has been Liverpool's best player so far. Shocking display from him.

Loafing Oaf

Bret Hart wrote: »

It'll begin very soon.

Never doubted it for a second...

beya2009

Salah best player in the EPL.

TitianGerm

Liverpool

blueser wrote: »

Swarbrick has been Liverpool's best player so far. Shocking display from him.

He's been terrible for both teams. Liverpool could have had a peno and Mane could have been off.

Worst of all though was the amount of advantages hes gotten wrong. He's clearly called back both teams when there was a clear advantage and has let them play on when he should have been giving the frees.

tayto lover

beya2009 wrote: »

Salah best player in the EPL.

KDB by a mile.

Lovely win