General Premier League Thread - 2017/2018

irishman86 · 10-09-2017 3:14pm

Everton

Berserker wrote: »

Are you comparing an missed overhead kick to Mane's challenge yesterday?

The clutching at straws has gone to a new level alright

irishman86 · 10-09-2017 3:16pm

Everton

Not been a great weekend for my predictions :pac:

irishman86 · 10-09-2017 3:19pm

Everton

Oh Dann

martyos121 · 10-09-2017 3:19pm

Liverpool

That kind of miss from Scott Dann is why FDB is getting sacked in the morning.

Berserker · 10-09-2017 3:20pm

How many more games before De Boer gets the sack?

Corholio · 10-09-2017 3:21pm

De Boer will pay the price but second half they have been very good. Between that shocking miss from Dann and the backpass goal, players have done it themselves today.

Bridge93 · 10-09-2017 3:23pm

Liverpool

Palace players totally letting their manager down today. Insane how a guy in the job 4 games is likely to be sacked

Paully D · 10-09-2017 3:23pm

That's the end of de Boer then.

Bilic won't be too far behind if they fail to beat Huddersfield tomorrow night.

Harry Palmr · 10-09-2017 3:24pm

Boy getting rid of Benteke for 30 million now looks like genius.

omega man · 10-09-2017 3:24pm

All the football played by palace. Feel sorry for FDB as the quality not there to translate that into goals/points.

thelad95 · 10-09-2017 3:27pm

The problem is that palace were actually the better team and should have had at least three or four goals but when things aren't going your way and a rot has set in, change is definitely needed. De Boer will be the first casualty and bilic and howe won't be far behind.

irishman86 · 10-09-2017 3:32pm

Everton

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Boy getting rid of Benteke for 30 million now looks like genius.

Why? Benteke cant be held accountable for a loss when Dann missed two chances
He will score between 15-20 goals
So no genius isnt the word i would use
Liverpool dont play to his strengths it made sense to sell him but genius is a massive oversell

Paully D · 10-09-2017 3:40pm

Another team finding it very difficult to successfully transition from Allardyce.

That's a complement to Big Sam by the way. An excellent manager.

martyos121 · 10-09-2017 4:34pm

Liverpool

Early contender for save of the season by Fabianski.

fullstop · 10-09-2017 4:35pm

Worst dive of the season contender there, shocking.

Paully D · 10-09-2017 4:48pm

Merino will surely become the first victim of that new panel set up to look at restrospective dives?

If he doesn't get sanctioned for that then they might as well abanon it.

Shocking dive.

martyos121 · 10-09-2017 4:51pm

Liverpool

They can only retrospectively punish dives if the referee was deceived and rewarded it with a free or penalty.

He didn't buy it, so Merino is 100% grand.

Mushy · 10-09-2017 4:52pm

Paully D wrote: »

Merino will surely become the first victim of that new panel set up to look at restrospective dives?

If he doesn't get sanctioned for that then they might as well abanon it.

Shocking dive.

From sounds of it on commentary it seemed that it only happens for penalties. Thought that was wrong.

Paully D · 10-09-2017 4:53pm

Another pretty pointless initiative then.

callaway92 · 10-09-2017 4:53pm

Liverpool

thelad95 wrote: »

The problem is that palace were actually the better team and should have had at least three or four goals but when things aren't going your way and a rot has set in, change is definitely needed. De Boer will be the first casualty and bilic and howe won't be far behind.

What the hell??

Howe shouldn't be anywhere near getting sacked

ERG89 · 10-09-2017 4:54pm

martyos121 wrote:

They can only retrospectively punish dives if the referee was deceived and rewarded it with a free or penalty.

Am I the only one thinking Sanches should be in trouble for that blatant kick in the balls

Paully D · 10-09-2017 4:54pm

Sanches looks extremely average today. Constantly giving the ball away.

Early days obviously, and he'll need to get up to speed, but he'll have to improve dramatically.

martyos121 · 10-09-2017 4:55pm

Liverpool

ERG89 wrote: »

Am I the only one thinking Sanches should be in trouble for that blatant kick in the balls

Didn't notice that, what minute was it so I can rewind for a look?

thelad95 · 10-09-2017 4:59pm

callaway92 wrote: »

What the hell??

Howe shouldn't be anywhere near getting sacked

Sure what better way to start the season than four losses in a row with only one goal scored?

ERG89 · 10-09-2017 5:06pm

martyos121 wrote: »

Didn't notice that, what minute was it so I can rewind for a look?

https://twitter.com/hpsaucy13/status/906907117688381441

Rekop dog · 10-09-2017 5:07pm

Spurs

That's a red if Mane's was. Only difference was victim didn't lean head in as much as goalkeeper yesterday but just as reckless.

thelad95 · 10-09-2017 5:08pm

That's a stonewall red card and what's worse is the referee was right in front of it.

Mushy · 10-09-2017 5:09pm

Rekop dog wrote: »

That's a red if Mane's was. Only difference was victim didn't lean head in as much as goalkeeper yesterday but just as reckless.

Richie lucky he didn't make contact, seriously stupid. Could easily have been given.

thebaz · 10-09-2017 5:12pm

Paully D wrote: »

Another team finding it very difficult to successfully transition from Allardyce.

That's a complement to Big Sam by the way. An excellent manager.

The direct , but successful in England , approach of the likes of Allardyce, Pullis and Dyche , is one of the reasons I believe the top teams struggle in Europe and the national team continually fails - Kinnear did it at wimbledon - its horrible to watch , but successful , shame that it causes a football man like deBoer to fail.

Osmosis Jones · 10-09-2017 5:12pm

Liverpool

ERG89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/hpsaucy13/status/906907117688381441

Got the ball, no foul

martyos121 · 10-09-2017 5:14pm

Liverpool

ERG89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/hpsaucy13/status/906907117688381441

Should be a long retrospective ban if there's any justice. That's shocking stuff and looks 100% intentional.

martyos121 · 10-09-2017 5:16pm

Liverpool

Fcuking heroic stuff from Lascelles there!

Harry Palmr · 10-09-2017 5:33pm

thebaz wrote: »

The direct , but successful in England , approach of the likes of Allardyce, Pullis and Dyche , is one of the reasons I believe the top teams struggle in Europe and the national team continually fails - Kinnear did it at wimbledon - its horrible to watch , but successful , shame that it causes a football man like deBoer to fail.

How many England players are with such managers at club level though? How often have Pulis/Dyche managed in Europe? Allardyce did it one season in the UEFA Cup I think.

Paully D · 10-09-2017 5:34pm

Brilliant goal-saving block from Lascelles, then scores down at the other end.

Funny thing is he wouldn't even be playing if everyone was fit!

Osmosis Jones · 10-09-2017 5:35pm

Liverpool

Lascelles with the performance of the weekend if they keep a clean sheet

thebaz · 10-09-2017 5:39pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

How many England players are with such managers at club level though? How often have Pulis/Dyche managed in Europe? Allardyce did it one season in the UEFA Cup I think.

very few , but top teams have to adapt , and in a way bring there level down to the anti-football battle of Pullis and allardyce , in oder to beat them , think it holds them back from adopting a more progressive brand of football - just my thoughts for the continued failure of top level English football.

Rekop dog · 10-09-2017 5:50pm

Spurs

Swansea unfortunate in this game with the goal line clearance and Newcastle should have had a clear red with the dangerous high foot. Such fine lines in football, could be the difference between staying up or going down in the end. Poor refereeing decisions shouldn't still in this day and age have such a impact on a teams potential fate.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 10-09-2017 6:40pm

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Got the ball, no foul

From the look at that clip, I'd say he got both...:P

irishman86 · 10-09-2017 7:05pm

Everton

Rekop dog wrote: »

That's a red if Mane's was. Only difference was victim didn't lean head in as much as goalkeeper yesterday but just as reckless.

So everytime somebody does something Mane is going to be brought up, lovely :pac:

irishman86 · 10-09-2017 7:06pm

Everton

Harry Palmr wrote: »

How many England players are with such managers at club level though? How often have Pulis/Dyche managed in Europe? Allardyce did it one season in the UEFA Cup I think.

These players with England are brought up with the English way of thinking though
Which is Sam type coaches at under age hence why very few under age coaches progress to manager jobs

pjohnson · 10-09-2017 7:25pm

Jaysus I thought the rubbish was over when the International break ended.

Iused2likebusts · 10-09-2017 9:27pm

Liverpool

Heaton more than likely out for a few months will be a huge blow to Burnley's hopes of staying up.

Paully D · 11-09-2017 7:47pm

Loving Big Sam on MNF.

He'll be back in the Premier League before long no doubt.

Trigger · 11-09-2017 8:09pm

Liverpool

Chicharito playing left wing for West Ham,Bilic looking to get himself sacked

~Rebel~ · 11-09-2017 8:09pm

Ince looking lively.

super_furry · 11-09-2017 8:46pm

Liverpool

Some weekend for players getting kicked in the face, this one on Mounié from Reid in the West Ham game. It's unintentional and the referee is happy enough with just a freekick, but over three days there's been a red card, a yellow card and just a free kick for the exact same incident. Referees really don't know what they're at on this.

super_furry · 11-09-2017 8:47pm

Liverpool

Some weekend for players getting kicked in the face, this one on Mounié from Reid in the West Ham game. It's unintentional and the referee is happy enough with just a freekick, but over three days there's been a red card, a yellow card and just a free kick for the exact same incident. Referees really don't know what they're at on this.

rwbug · 11-09-2017 8:56pm

super_furry wrote: »

Some weekend for players getting kicked in the face, this one on Mounié from Reid in the West Ham game. It's unintentional and the referee is happy enough with just a freekick, but over three days there's been a red card, a yellow card and just a free kick for the exact same incident. Referees really don't know what they're at on this.

There is (1) careless, (2) reckless and (3)excessive force or dangerous. One is just a foul, one is a yellow and one is a red.

Corholio · 11-09-2017 9:01pm

rwbug wrote: »

There is (1) careless, (2) reckless and (3)excessive force or dangerous. One is just a foul, one is a yellow and one is a red.

The one tonight caught him in the face which wasn't anything, Ritchie's caught him in the arm which was a yellow. Ritchie's should have been a red by the guidelines they go by, he had more time to be less out of control and he still was. They have made the problem for themselves with Mane's red imo.

Rekop dog · 11-09-2017 9:06pm

Spurs

Common sense has to come into this. Mane was sprinting and went in studs first at head height. That can do significant damage, its a red. The one tonight, he's standing and goes in with laces of boots, should have been a yellow. To call it the exact same incident is insanity and assuming coming from a liverpool fan.

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