General Premier League Thread - 2017/2018

Agent Coulson

Liverpool

Jose's post match interview is going to be glorious.

ShamoBuc

As Neville said with 10 to go, it feels like a derby now, enjoyable second half.

Agent Coulson

Liverpool

I bet Jose will have the Man U changing room blaring with music and have the staff and squad shouting and singing and winding up the City squad.

marvin80

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I bet Jose will have the Man U changing room blaring with music and have the staff and squad shouting and singing and winding up the City squad.

That will really annoy City but then they'll remember they've the league wrapped up

ShamoBuc

Great second half. Utd got the luck with the Young penalty whike De Gea proved how valuable he is yet again.
They were 50/1 at ht, doubt if anyone got on considering their first half performance. Tale of 2 halves.

Sterling will have absolute nightmares though, he could easily have had a hat trick.

Mr.Nice Guy

Liverpool

My dad predicted this exact scoreline when I spoke to him this morning. I told him no chance.

Pity he didn't bet on it as he probably could have won a fortune.

batistuta9

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

My dad predicted this exact scoreline when I spoke to him this morning. I told him no chance.

Pity he didn't bet on it as he probably could have won a fortune.

40/1 on bet365, 50 on bwin


Great result for Newcastle today. They've been in good form though that should see them safe now anyway. Rafa to Chelsea?

ERG89

batistuta9 wrote: »

40/1 on bet365, 50 on bwin


Great result for Newcastle today. They've been in good form though that should see them safe now anyway. Rafa to Chelsea?

10 points clear of safety I think Newcastle will stay up;at this stage they should sell Rafa plushies in the club shop. Thought Slimani would be a big signing for them in January but he has done as little as Sturridge but Kenedy has been a shrewd loan signing.
Dreadful week for City blow a 2 goal lead at home and no away goal in Europe with the worst possible outcomes in both. A visit to Spurs next weekend and trying to overturn a 3 goal deficit will be a big test.

Optimalprimerib

Man City

DeanAustin wrote: »

Don’t buy that. Lloris is having a bad season but I wouldn’t abandon him. Proved his worth over 4-5 seasons and is still young enough for a keeper.

Amazing how football fans bemoan the lack of player loyalty but after a few bad games have no problem saying “x needs to be dropped/sold”.

I happy enough with lloris making an odd mistake here or there. It keeps the vultures from the door. He won us plenty of points this year with his saves. Still a top class goalkeeper.

klose

Berserker wrote: »

Anyway else watching the merseyside derby? Atmosphere is terrible for a derby. Great chance for Everton for win this but they lack creativity. On a side note, Liverpool are a not a top four side without Salah.

Hate this logic, where would United be without de gea? Barca without Messi, Madrid without Ronaldo?

Agent Coulson

Liverpool

I'm pretty sure Liverpool were a top 4 team last season without Salah.

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Liverpool were a top 4 team last season without Salah.

Take out mane and they are average was last years one, take out coutinho and they will struggle, its now take out salah .

DeanAustin

Man City

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Take out mane and they are average was last years one, take out coutinho and they will struggle, its now take out salah .

It’s all a load of bollix from people who read the likes of The Sun. A few weeks ago, some clown on here was saying “Without Kane, Spurs are a mid table team.”

Kane gets injured and Spurs win three from three by an aggregate score of 10-2 including a massive result at Stamford Bridge.

Liverpool without Salah or any other individual player would still be strong top 4 contenders. Same as United without De Gea.

Trigger

Liverpool

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Take out mane and they are average was last years one, take out coutinho and they will struggle, its now take out salah .

I actually think it’s Firmino that’s the most important player to get the machine moving, he knits everything together

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

astradave wrote: »

I actually think it’s Firmino that’s the most important player to get the machine moving, he knits everything together

I 100% agree with you.

Harry Palmr

Charles Austin with the goal old bean!

Berserker

Well deserved equaliser for Southampton. Three points up for grabs for them, if they can keep playing like this. Shane Long is playing really well for them. Best I've seen him play in ages.

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

Austin has some goalscoring record.Unfortunately he struggles to stay fit.

Trigger

Liverpool

What’s today’s excuse for the half empty stadium?

Harry Palmr

astradave wrote: »

What’s today’s excuse for the half empty stadium?

Have excuses been offered? I though it was just an increasingly disengaged home support making their feeling known.

Berserker

astradave wrote: »

What’s today’s excuse for the half empty stadium?

Lots of roadworks in North London this weekend.

Berserker

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Have excuses been offered? I though it was just an increasingly disengaged home support making their feeling known.

Yep, Wenger claimed people were away for Easter last weekend.

Harry Palmr

How annoying, that'll surely do it

Berserker

3-2 to Arsenal. Southampton's defence is killing them.

Minderbinder

Really good performance by Southampton but they look doomed with their fixture list.

Harry Palmr

Good grief it's all kicking off - two straight reds one for each side but neither is for Wilshire somehow.

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

Wilshire I just don't see the hype. Still no contract signed I'll be shocked if he is at a top 6 team next year.

Berserker

Two reds to end the game. Enjoyable half, I have to say. Do get what people see in Wilshere. Not good enough for Arsenal, for me. Can see him ending up at somewhere like Everton.

Minderbinder

Berserker wrote: »

Two reds to end the game. Enjoyable half, I have to say. Do get what people see in Wilshere. Not good enough for Arsenal, for me. Can see him ending up at somewhere like Everton.

Everton have enough problems. They don’t need that baby.

Skylinehead

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Good grief it's all kicking off - two straight reds one for each side but neither is for Wilshire somehow.

Because shirt pulling isn't a red card offence Harry.

citytillidie

Agent Coulson wrote: »

How did BT who have the rights to the 5:30pm game on a Saturday lose today's game to Sky?

BT sat out this round of games so they could have one later in the season.

The Manchester derby was always at 5:30pm the game that was moved was the Merseyside derby

ricero

Arsenal

I think thats southampton done. Actually i think the bottom 3 now are the 3 that will end up relegated

Berserker

ricero wrote: »

I think thats southampton done. Actually i think the bottom 3 now are the 3 that will end up relegated

Not so sure. Brighton have a horrible set of fixtures coming up. Hope they stay up but it's going to be very hard for them.

Palace (A) - Derby game for them
Spurs (H)
Burnley (A)
Man United (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (A)

DeanAustin

Man City

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Wilshire I just don't see the hype. Still no contract signed I'll be shocked if he is at a top 6 team next year.

If Ross Barkley, Danny Drinkwater, Moussa Sissoko, Jordan Henderson, Ander Herrera & Fabian Delph can play top 6, Wilshere can easily.

I detest him but he’s a lovely footballer. There was one little pass today he pulled off. Ball was bouncing, he was facing his own goal and still freed a player on the wing. He links defence and attack brilliantly. If wasn’t such an odious individual and wasn’t Arsenal through and through, I’d have him at Spurs in a heartbeat.

Harry Palmr

If Wilshire is not at Arsenal which top 5 side would really be able to make use of him and want to pay what he'll demand?

Minderbinder

Berserker wrote: »

ricero wrote: »

I think thats southampton done. Actually i think the bottom 3 now are the 3 that will end up relegated

Not so sure. Brighton have a horrible set of fixtures coming up. Hope they stay up but it's going to be very hard for them.

Palace (A) - Derby game for them
Spurs (H)
Burnley (A)
Man United (H)
Man City (A)
Liverpool (A)

7 points and a lot of teams between Brighton and the bottom 3. Southampton have City and Chelsea as well as trips to Everton and Leicester in the last 6 games.

Not saying it won’t be close but I’d be very surprised if Brighton go down, although they should have finished the job already.

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

DeanAustin wrote: »

If Ross Barkley, Danny Drinkwater, Moussa Sissoko, Jordan Henderson, Ander Herrera & Fabian Delph can play top 6, Wilshere can easily.

I detest him but he’s a lovely footballer. There was one little pass today he pulled off. Ball was bouncing, he was facing his own goal and still freed a player on the wing. He links defence and attack brilliantly. If wasn’t such an odious individual and wasn’t Arsenal through and through, I’d have him at Spurs in a heartbeat.

He has some lovely touches I'm not disputing that. But give me the likes of Drinkwater, Henderson and Herrera all day long in midfield. Wilshire gets totally overrun by strong midfield opponents something that doesn't happen to the above 3. He is a better footballer than the above 3 no question but his overall impact on a game to make up for his defensive deficiencies isn't enough to justify playing him over those 3.

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

I think Huddersfield will go down Watford Everton city Chelsea and arsenal to go.

Berserker

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I think Huddersfield will go down Watford Everton city Chelsea and arsenal to go.

I think their home form will be enough. They have 32 points at the moment and they have Watford, Everton and Arsenal to play at home. Everton are useless on the road, Watford have nothing to play for and Arsenal will be on the beach or preparing for a Europa league final on the last day of the season.

martyos121

Liverpool

Joe Hart with the best save of the weekend there to keep it at 1-1 for West Ham.

super_furry

Liverpool

martyos121 wrote: »

Joe Hart with the best save of the weekend there to keep it at 1-1 for West Ham.

And another. His City contract must be up soon.

niallo27

Arsenal

Wait for the boos after this one.

DeanAustin

Man City

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

He has some lovely touches I'm not disputing that. But give me the likes of Drinkwater, Henderson and Herrera all day long in midfield. Wilshire gets totally overrun by strong midfield opponents something that doesn't happen to the above 3. He is a better footballer than the above 3 no question but his overall impact on a game to make up for his defensive deficiencies isn't enough to justify playing him over those 3.

And I honestly believe that is why we have such a problem producing footballers to hold onto the ball in this country and the UK.

I hear a lot of people complaining that Ireland don’t keep the ball and it’s a lack of players in the Wilshere/Hoolahan mould that prevent us doing that.

You’re opinion is shared by a lot of people I know but they’re the same people who complain that we don’t keep the ball enough. The likes of Drinkwater and Henderson are good at what they do but they’re mediocre in possession.

theoneeyedman

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

He has some lovely touches I'm not disputing that. But give me the likes of Drinkwater, Henderson and Herrera all day long in midfield. Wilshire gets totally overrun by strong midfield opponents something that doesn't happen to the above 3. He is a better footballer than the above 3 no question but his overall impact on a game to make up for his defensive deficiencies isn't enough to justify playing him over those 3.

Ah look, if you were in an Arsenal midfield with the likes of Ozil, Mktarian, Xaka, Ramsey, and with Kochelny and Mustafi behind you, you would look a poor defender too. Arsenal don't do defence any more, it's a bit much to pin it on Wiltshire. His biggest problem has been injuries, his close dribbling style at times invites other lads 'to put a foot in' on him, and he has suffered from this over the years.

Harry Palmr

Chelsea are a strange side these days - win league, blow out, win league, blow out

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

DeanAustin wrote: »

And I honestly believe that is why we have such a problem producing footballers to hold onto the ball in this country and the UK.

I hear a lot of people complaining that Ireland don’t keep the ball and it’s a lack of players in the Wilshere/Hoolahan mould that prevent us doing that.

You’re opinion is shared by a lot of people I know but they’re the same people who complain that we don’t keep the ball enough. The likes of Drinkwater and Henderson are good at what they do but they’re mediocre in possession.

Trust me I can appreciate a good footballer and I value possession hugely. Henderson is underrated by a lot of people including his own fan base. The problem with Wilshire is you can't trust him defensively in a midfield two and he doesn't contribute enough attacking returns when played behind the front man. The comparison with hoolahan isn't good as his attacking returns are quite good especially when you consider the teams he played with compared to Wilshire and hoolahan is predominately a no. 10. Wenger loves the type of footballer you are talking about but he has rarely trusted Wilshire . This season he is finally getting a good run in the team and the results are telling.

Nice one Hammers

Berserker

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Chelsea are a strange side these days - win league, blow out, win league, blow out

Was just thinking that. They'll finish 5th or 6th this season, change manager and go on to win the league next season.

blueser

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Nice one Hammers

That was a very good result for them. They'll be okay now.

Guy:Incognito

Whatever hope there was for Chelsea before this weekend, that's the top 4 sorted now.

2 wins from 5 will do Liverpool imo.