General Premier League Thread - 2017/2018

Berserker

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Joe Hart is blessed to have had the career he has, thoroughly average goalkeeper.

He was a top class keeper at Man City but the move away has dented his confidence big time. West Ham are a mess and it'd be very hard to settle in there. I was surprised that Liverpool or Arsenal didn't go in for him. On the subject of goalkeeping, Gomes was in great form for Watford today. That double save at the end of first half was unreal.

5starpool

Rekop dog wrote: »

Moyesy will probably come out and tell fans to expect relegation.

Well if they keep him, that's what they'll get anyhow.

theoneeyedman

Berserker wrote: »

Where there are no easy games .... unless you are Man City.

Is that true, really??
Have any of the top 6 (I'm excluding Burnley for the moment) lost to any of the other teams this season? There may be one or two occasions, but without researching it, it seems to be more infrequent than before.

Even excluding a City team that is in extraordinary form, there are weekly hammering from other top 6 teams, e.g this week big wins for Liverpool, United, and Chelsea (remember Spurs played Arsenal). The gap between the top 6 and the rest appears to be getting wider and wider all the time.

One notable exception at the moment is Burnley. They have competed well in fairness to them, whether they can remain competitive in the medium term remains to be seen.

Berserker

5starpool wrote: »

Well if they keep him, that's what they'll get anyhow.

West Ham fans really annoyed with the board as well. Singing against them at the game today. Clips on social media from their fan tv. Looking like a good candidate for a relegation battle this season for definite.

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Is that true, really??

That post was tongue in cheek. Man City is a clear example of a team who cruise most games, so I used them as my main example. Totally agree with you about the rest of the top six teams and the divide between them and the remainder of the league.

blueser

Berserker wrote: »

He was a top class keeper at Man City but the move away has dented his confidence big time. West Ham are a mess and it'd be very hard to settle in there. I was surprised that Liverpool or Arsenal didn't go in for him. On the subject of goalkeeping, Gomes was in great form for Watford today. That double save at the end of first half was unreal.

He was brilliant for us, particularly in the period between 2011 and 2015. He saved points for us on multiple occasions. But his last 12-18 months with us was very up and down, and his form has declined sharply since then.

blueser

Rekop dog wrote: »

Moyesy will probably come out and tell fans to expect relegation.

I see he's started the blame game already, saying he was disappointed with West Ham's "big players with big reputations". That's not going to help him in getting those players on board.

Moysie. Football genius.

Speaking to Sky Sports after the game, Moyes was asked what he'd made of the performance.

"Well, I think most people would've expected something like that because that's the way it's been," he replied.

klose

Pulis unsurprisingly has gotten the sack.

ongarite

klose wrote: »

Pulis unsurprisingly has gotten the sack.

Early enough in the day to make the usual Monday morning footie podcasts!!

Nerdlingr

klose wrote: »

Pulis unsurprisingly has gotten the sack.

Still has never relegated a team. :P

ERG89

klose wrote: »

Pulis unsurprisingly has gotten the sack.

Looking at their record this year its atrocious. 2 wins back in August and before that it was March, 6 wins in total for 2017 too.

ricero

Arsenal

klose wrote: »

Pulis unsurprisingly has gotten the sack.

Good riddance. An absolute football cretin

ricero

Everton

ricero wrote: »

Good riddance. An absolute football cretin

Bit harsh no!?

Sugarlumps

Thank god Pulis got the bullet. I've never hated watching a side more than them. Every player back defending, no license to go forward. They've a decent squad.

klose

Sugarlumps wrote: »

Thank god Pulis got the bullet. I've never hated watching a side more than them. Every player back defending, no license to go forward. They've a decent squad.

He'll be back, he always comes back. It ain't pretty but if your teams in trouble at the wrong end of the table in the second half of the season he's your man to come in and tighten things up and get them to safety.

Sugarlumps

klose wrote: »

He'll be back, he always comes back. It ain't pretty but if your teams in trouble at the wrong end of the table in the second half of the season he's your man to come in and tighten things up and get them to safety.

100%, they'll always be a club waiting in the wings for a Pulis.

ERG89

klose wrote: »

He'll be back, he always comes back. It ain't pretty but if your teams in trouble at the wrong end of the table in the second half of the season he's your man to come in and tighten things up and get them to safety.

He's left that job at West Brom for someone else to do this time.
God him and Sunderland are a match made in heaven if they were still around the Premier League.

Lucas Hood

West Ham are probably raging they didn't wait a week or 2 and get Pulis instead of Moyes.

GavRedKing

Liverpool

Pulis for the Welsh job?

Hes not far off 60 and as we seen with MON, international football is a good meal ticket for the one dimensional dinosaurs of the footballing world.

pjohnson

Everton still need a manager.

Coleman must be bucking he chose Sunderland. He coulda got the West Brom gig.

retalivity

West Ham fans have been told to stop dialling 999 when they lose.
Really.

GreNoLi

Liverpool

Y'all crackers are missing a cracker between BHA and the potters, nil all 15 minutes in, expect the expected.

GreNoLi

Liverpool

That's a peno ref...

GreNoLi

Liverpool

Deserved equaliser for Hughton's men.

GreNoLi

Liverpool

Stoke retake the lead just before half time, decent game.

GreNoLi

Liverpool

All's square in love and war, 2-2.

shamrock55

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Is it just me or does it already feel like everyone else is already playing to be the best of the rest? doesn't not feel like there will be a title race. Of course there could be, not saying there couldn't just feels like it's Man City's season already

I said earlier that city will win this pl by over 15 PTS,nobody will challenge them this year

Berserker

Lucas Hood wrote: »

West Ham are probably raging they didn't wait a week or 2 and get Pulis instead of Moyes.

Pulis isn't, I suspect. Perfect for the Wales job given his age and pedigree. I think he'd do well with them and he'd enjoy the role.

retalivity wrote: »

West Ham fans have been told to stop dialling 999 when they lose.
Really.

Absolutely ridiculous stuff. Someone with a genuine emergency might be blocked from getting through. Said it yesterday, they are in big trouble. Those fans are ready to pounce on Moyes. He needs to turn things around there asap.

GavRedKing

Liverpool

West Hams next 6 games are seriously tough too.

Leicester (h)
Everton (a)
City (a)
Chelsea (h)
Arsenal (h)
Stoke (a)

It looks like it could get much worse before its going to get better.

GavRedKing

Everton

GavRedKing wrote: »

West Hams next 6 games are seriously tough too.

Leicester (h)
Everton (a)
City (a)
Chelsea (h)
Arsenal (h)
Stoke (a)

It looks like it could get much worse before its going to get better.turn disastrous

fyp

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

Looking at the number of shots on goal the top 6 have faced.
Arsenal 44
Utd 43
Chelsea 40
Liverpool 38
Spurs 34
City 23
Goals conceded
Liverpool 17
Arsenal 16
Chelsea 10
Spurs 9
City 7
Utd 6
% of shots that end up as goals conceded
Liverpool 44%
Arsenal 36%
City 30%
Spurs 26%
Chelsea 25%
Utd 14%

Obviously this doesn't factor in the types of shots a keeper is facing or the type of chance a team is giving up . However it would say to me to value of having a good goalkeeper. That 14% stat for utd is exceptional. Citys opponents are finding it very hard to threaten their goal and close to half the shots against Liverpool end up in a goal. I think football in general undervalues the importance of a top class goalkeeper and what it can bring to a team.

Everton

It's a bit of a muddled stat though. You could also argue it forces opponents to shoot from long range.
I assume these are just any type of shot at goal, even it goes near the corner flag.

Trigger

Liverpool

M!Ck^ wrote: »

It's a bit of a muddled stat though. You could also argue it forces opponents to shoot from long range.
I assume these are just any type of shot at goal, even it goes near the corner flag.

Pretty sure Shots on goal means Shots ontarget inthis case

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

M!Ck^ wrote: »

It's a bit of a muddled stat though. You could also argue it forces opponents to shoot from long range.
I assume these are just any type of shot at goal, even it goes near the corner flag.

Its shots on target only . But yes as I said some teams will give up different types of chances to others due to the style of play. For me however its no coincidence the two worst keepers of the top 6 mignolet and cech have the worst save %. And now that city actually have a keeper that can make a save they are conceding a lot less goals than last year.

Agent Coulson

Liverpool

Oumar Niasse: Everton striker charged for dive against Crystal Palace

Everton striker Oumar Niasse has become the first Premier League player to be charged by the Football Association for "successful deception of a match official".

The Senegal international won a controversial penalty, after minimal contact from Scott Dann, in Saturday's 2-2 draw with Crystal Palace, with Leighton Baines scoring the penalty.

Niasse went on to score the equaliser at Selhurst Park.

He has until 18:00 GMT to respond.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42066734

Liamalone

Arsenal

Poor Niasse, soft indeed as it was, it wasn't the first soft penalty decision this season. There has been worse. I hope they appeal it and kick up a stink.

Osmosis Jones

Liverpool

Doesn't help Palace in the slightest, in fact it might make life harder on them as Everton are now going to be a weakened side for their game against West Ham, who Palace could do with dropping points.

Berserker

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Oumar Niasse: Everton striker charged for dive against Crystal Palace

I've seen dives that were far worse this season. Alli had a few, as did Sterling. Get the impression that the powers that be are focusing in on this because Everton are not one of the top six clubs.

Trigger

Liverpool

Berserker wrote: »

I've seen dives that were far worse this season. Alli had a few, as did Sterling. Get the impression that the powers that be are focusing in on this because Everton are not one of the top six clubs.

Did they get penalties or sending offs from the dives you are thinking of? I thought that the rule was brought in only if there is either of those

Shanotheslayer

Liverpool

astradave wrote: »

Did they get penalties or sending offs from the dives you are thinking of? I thought that the rule was brought in only if there is either of those

Alli got booked from what I recall. I think Sterling got a penalty? Not sure tho.

Trigger

Liverpool

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Alli got booked from what I recall. I think Sterling got a penalty? Not sure tho.

Alli getting booked means it was already dealt with and it didn’t lead to either of those so it wouldn’t fall under the guidelines.. not sure I recall the Sterling incident so can’t comment one that one

GreNoLi

Liverpool

Bit of action tonight, hammers host foxes, Moyes will gawk on in bemusement as leicester win 3-1.

Berserker

GreNoLi wrote: »

Bit of action tonight, hammers host foxes, Moyes will gawk on in bemusement as leicester win 3-1.

He'll be running for cover if Leicester win.

GreNoLi

Liverpool

Berserker wrote: »

He'll be running for cover if Leicester win.

Such an awful appointment.

GreNoLi

Liverpool

Nice, foxes take the lead, Moyes glued to his seat.

ERG89

Awful stuff as expected but Ogbonna looked like he slipped on ice

ERG89

Why is there a multi-colour line above the score on Sky?

Mr.Nice Guy

Liverpool

ERG89 wrote: »

Why is there a multi-colour line above the score on Sky?

It's part of the Rainbow Laces campaign to show support for LGBT rights. The microphones are multi-coloured too.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/934110254438154241

GreNoLi

Liverpool

Bubbles coming out of Moyes' ears, hammers equalise.

JimmyMcGill

GreNoLi wrote: »

Bubbles coming out of Moyes' ears, hammers equalise.

Is it worth turning on the Streaming box?