General Premier League Thread - 2017/2018

Jayop

Everton

RoboKlopp wrote: »

City are the new darlings of Sky.

Utd missed the boat not getting Pep.

Wouldn't want him. Never liked his teams.

Everton

Easy to score against West Brom
Funny to see some teams struggle

Shanotheslayer

Liverpool

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Easy to score against West Brom
Funny to see some teams struggle

Here fishy fishy fishy.

irishman86

Everton

pjohnson wrote: »

The current West Ham back up you're on about is it? The one who was shaky at Torino last year?

Shaky behind a makeshift defence as for back up because he hasnt played in two games :rolleyes:

Shanotheslayer

Everton

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Here fishy fishy fishy.

No need to call em they are already here

pjohnson

RoboKlopp wrote: »

City are the new darlings of Sky.

Utd missed the boat not getting Pep.

Agent Coulson wrote: »

You can see the bitter lemons hurting a lot of utd fans that they are no longer the golden club to Sky.

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Here fishy fishy fishy.

Agreed

Shanotheslayer

Liverpool

Easy for Everton to get a point against City this season. Not sure how the other teams struggled so much. :pac:

Left Back on the Bench

emmetkenny wrote:

If Spurs don't get top 4 do you think the likes of Kane may leave?

Kane might give it another couple of years. Keeping poch is the main thing.

Jayop

Everton

Funny how quickly a managers stock can fall though isn't it. Football is so fickle.

Berserker

RoboKlopp wrote: »

City are the new darlings of Sky.

Utd missed the boat not getting Pep.

Always thought that was Liverpool. United did get a good amount of love and they earned it to be fair to them but Liverpool are their ultimate love.

irishman86

Everton

Berserker wrote: »

Always thought that was Liverpool. United did get a good amount of love and they earned it to be fair to them but Liverpool are their ultimate love.

Chelsea have always been the devil right, dam oil money well first oil money :pac:

irishman86

Everton

Rashford trying for a card, pathetic

Corholio

Sky were all over Utd for years, some of it deserved of course but a lot of it was complete over saturation to the point where they weren't even hiding it anymore.

Jayop

Everton

irishman86 wrote: »

Rashford trying for a card, pathetic

Man any player that gets an arm across his chin does that. He's been pulled and dragged all game and got nothing from the ref.

Berserker

irishman86 wrote: »

Chelsea have always been the devil right, dam oil money well first oil money :pac:

Oh, wash your mouth out with soap for even mentioning that name. They get very little credit for some reason.

irishman86

Everton

Jayop wrote: »

Man any player that gets an arm across his chin does that. He's been pulled and dragged all game and got nothing from the ref.

Just because other players do it doesnt make it less so, in all the cases its pathetic. So what if hes been pulled and dragged, does that mean he needs to exaggerate a non incident

Jayop

Everton

irishman86 wrote: »

Just because other players do it doesnt make it less so, in all the cases its pathetic. So what if hes been pulled and dragged, does that mean he needs to exaggerate a non incident

When the ref has literally decided to allow them to do whatever they want to him and not pull them then yeah I can't blame him. That last one pulling back the player for a clear foul and not booking him was madness.

pjohnson

Everton

pjohnson wrote: »

Agreed

It's called selective post reading :P

irishman86

Everton

irishman86 wrote: »

Just because other players do it doesnt make it less so, in all the cases its pathetic. So what if hes been pulled and dragged, does that mean he needs to exaggerate a non incident

When you see the ref not book Nyom for fouling him when on the counter which should have been a yellow then you get players exaggerating things as refs are more likely to give frees/yellows for it then if they stayed more honest

Jayop

Everton

Nyom has fouled him over and over all game and he's not got as much as a free let alone a card.

irishman86

Everton

Jayop wrote: »

When the ref has literally decided to allow them to do whatever they want to him and not pull them then yeah I can't blame him. That last one pulling back the player for a clear foul and not booking him was madness.

The last one yes, but not the one he got carded for. That was the correct call. You are in denial if you think otherwise, the lad did nothing to him and he went screaming clutching his face, for me simulation and happy to see him carded even if it was for his next reaction rather than original one

irishman86

Everton

Deleted User wrote: »

When you see the ref not book Nyom for fouling him when on the counter which should have been a yellow then you get players exaggerating things as refs are more likely to give frees/yellows for it then if they stayed more honest

So because he missed one certain call he was wrong to give the other, what sort of bull**** logic is that. The call was 100% correct

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

irishman86 wrote: »

:rolleyes: A keeper with multiple golden gloves but sure
There was a big different between the squads, its not even a argument buddy
As for Awful back four Kompany and Otamendi are there two best centre backs and both were there before Pep. Which player did he massively improve exactly
Kun, De Bruyne were both superstars. Walker the most expensive rb in the world , Delph a player who at Villa was up with the best midfielders in the league. Stones maybe but it was always going to happen with him
He signed Bravo to be his keeper and he flopped badly so replaced him with the future Brazil number one for massive money
He spent massive money so off course he got good players who suited his system, but there is a lot wrong with what you are saying

This is the city squad that Pep took over
hart cabbelero
sagna clichy zabaleta kolorav kompany otamendi mangala
nasri yaya jesus navas kdb silva sterling fernandinho fernando delph
aguero bony
We will disagree on this one if you think he didnt have an issue with his goalkeepers.
Defenders Kompany has been ravaged with injuries he played 1179 minutes the year before Pep took over so it was clear he couldnt be relied on. This has been proved since. All 4 full backs best days were behind them and needed to be replaced. So that leaves us with otamendi out of a back 5. Who I think has definetly improved under him.
Midfielders was dealt a good hand here however he has undoubtedly improved fernandinho, KDB and sterling he has also helped delph adapt as a LB. He has also managed to come up with a formation that gets the best out of silva and KDB and gets 5 attacking players into his front 6 and manages to still have a good defensive record.
Attackers aguero world class and is the one player that hasnt fully thrived under Pep but apart from aguero the attacking options he was left were poor.

Utd and city finished on the exact same points the season before Pep and jose took over so I think thats a fairly good indication of where the squads where at. Jose has done a good job with the biggest squad in the PL he has 5 international CBs he can choose from, 5 lads he can play LB, 4 strikers etc.

I dont think there is much wrong with what Im saying at all. Utd had a much better GK and defensive options in place when they both took over, City had better attacking options. Pep has undoubtedly improved the majority of those attacking option. Both managers have spent a lot of money.

Jayop

Everton

He got an arm in the face. It wasn't a foul but every player goes down there especially if they've been singles out by the ref as a free for all all game. Higazi stuck the head down too and that's a yellow every time. Nyom fouled him constantly no card. The clearest foul ever right in front of goal there in Lingard and nothing given.

Jayop

Everton

irishman86 wrote: »

So because he missed one certain call he was wrong to give the other, what sort of bull**** logic is that. The call was 100% correct

Not denying that Rashford should have been booked. But Higazi should have too as should nyom.

It's hardly rocket science so try to keep up.

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

DDG with his latest save has now made more saves than any other keeper in the league so far this season. Remarkable stat considering he has conceded the least amount of goals.

niallo27

Arsenal

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

DDG with his latest save has now made more saves than any other keeper in the league so far this season. Remarkable stat considering he has conceded the least amount of goals.

It's more remarkable that's it's for a side 2nd in the league.

Guy:Incognito

Maybe hes one of those keepers normally found in the bottom half that only looks good because they are kept busy as a result of having a bunch of clowns playing in front of them

irishman86

Everton

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

This is the city squad that Pep took over
hart cabbelero
sagna clichy zabaleta kolorav kompany otamendi mangala
nasri yaya jesus navas kdb silva sterling fernandinho fernando delph
aguero bony
We will disagree on this one if you think he didnt have an issue with his goalkeepers.
Defenders Kompany has been ravaged with injuries he played 1179 minutes the year before Pep took over so it was clear he couldnt be relied on. This has been proved since. All 4 full backs best days were behind them and needed to be replaced. So that leaves us with otamendi out of a back 5. Who I think has definetly improved under him.
Midfielders was dealt a good hand here however he has undoubtedly improved fernandinho, KDB and sterling he has also helped delph adapt as a LB. He has also managed to come up with a formation that gets the best out of silva and KDB and gets 5 attacking players into his front 6 and manages to still have a good defensive record.
Attackers aguero world class and is the one player that hasnt fully thrived under Pep but apart from aguero the attacking options he was left were poor.

Utd and city finished on the exact same points the season before Pep and jose took over so I think thats a fairly good indication of where the squads where at. Jose has done a good job with the biggest squad in the PL he has 5 international CBs he can choose from, 5 lads he can play LB, 4 strikers etc.

I dont think there is much wrong with what Im saying at all. Utd had a much better GK and defensive options in place when they both took over, City had better attacking options. Pep has undoubtedly improved the majority of those attacking option. Both managers have spent a lot of money.

Otamendi was at this level in Spain though, his solution to fullbacks was signing the best in England and France as well as Madrids back up not exactly rocket science. Kompany is world class this cant be argued against and Mangala showed last season how talented he is
Fernandinho is one of the best DM in the world how did he raise his game
KDB was already class and Sterling has improved although ask any Liverpool fan and they will say he would have be this level anyways and Delph played lb for both Villa and Leeds
I think he has improved City but they were stronger than United in most positions
Do you think Smalling and Jones are better than Mangala and Otamendi if so you clearly dont watch football outside of the league which isnt criticism just you havent seen them when they are settled which they both are now
As for them being on similar points well City crashed as they knew Pep was on the way in
Like i said Pep is doing a good job as is Jose but neither are miracle workers they are doing what is expected

irishman86

Everton

Jayop wrote: »

Not denying that Rashford should have been booked. But Higazi should have too as should nyom.

It's hardly rocket science so try to keep up.

I have already said Nyom should have got one so maybe you should keep up buddy
Higazi didnt do anything to warrant a card, he was right to be pissed with Rashford acting the clown

irishman86

Everton

Deleted User wrote: »

When you see the ref not book Nyom for fouling him when on the counter which should have been a yellow then you get players exaggerating things as refs are more likely to give frees/yellows for it then if they stayed more honest

They can exaggerate, they should still be punished for it

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

irishman86 wrote: »

Otamendi was at this level in Spain though, his solution to fullbacks was signing the best in England and France as well as Madrids back up not exactly rocket science. Kompany is world class this cant be argued against and Mangala showed last season how talented he is
Fernandinho is one of the best DM in the world how did he raise his game
KDB was already class and Sterling has improved although ask any Liverpool fan and they will say he would have be this level anyways and Delph played lb for both Villa and Leeds
I think he has improved City but they were stronger than United in most positions
Do you think Smalling and Jones are better than Mangala and Otamendi if so you clearly dont watch football outside of the league which isnt criticism just you havent seen them when they are settled which they both are now
As for them being on similar points well City crashed as they knew Pep was on the way in
Like i said Pep is doing a good job as is Jose but neither are miracle workers they are doing what is expected

Its no use kompany being world class if he is never on the pitch . The argument was the squad he was left, he had to sign those FBS as he didn't have any that were of any use to him . He needed to change 4 of the back 5. Players can struggle to adapt to different leagues I'd prefer smalling/Jones over otamendi/mangala as PL defenders. Fernandinho wasn't a world class DM when pep took over , KDB wasn't as good as he is now and the improvements in sterlings game are huge. As for city players knowing pep was coming in the same argument could be made that utd players had a fair idea that LVG was on the way out. Pep like Jose had issues with the squad when he took over and I'll go with a 38 game league campaign to say that the squads were at a fairly similar level .

WoollyRedHat

Man Utd

Anyone watching Sports Personality of the Year.. is Gareth Southgate Harry's dad? They look so alike.

Harry Palmr

Phil Foden - the Young Sports personality of the Year.

UrbanFret

Jayop wrote: »

Aye that was beyond ridiculous but I guess he's the closest they have to a city legend.

Probably because summerbee told it like it is. hence he was never invited back. I don't approve of gallagher been on the panel mind.

irishman86

Everton

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Its no use kompany being world class if he is never on the pitch . The argument was the squad he was left, he had to sign those FBS as he didn't have any that were of any use to him . He needed to change 4 of the back 5. Players can struggle to adapt to different leagues I'd prefer smalling/Jones over otamendi/mangala as PL defenders. Fernandinho wasn't a world class DM when pep took over , KDB wasn't as good as he is now and the improvements in sterlings game are huge. As for city players knowing pep was coming in the same argument could be made that utd players had a fair idea that LVG was on the way out. Pep like Jose had issues with the squad when he took over and I'll go with a 38 game league campaign to say that the squads were at a fairly similar level .

I honestly dont know how anyone would prefer Smalling/Jones
Yes Fernandinho was world class and KDB was at a very similar level, he won player of the year in Germany for christ sakes
Its like people ignore what happens outside of the PL
Pep had to sign fb's thats it in reality
He has signed a keeper more suited to his game plan than Hart so ill give him that aswell
But seriously some of the arguments are hilariously weak
I'd take City's squad before Pep, Peps first season and This season any day over Uniteds
Besides DDG in the season before Pep/Jose who else gets into the City starting 11 as they both have meh fb's

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

irishman86 wrote: »

I honestly dont know how anyone would prefer Smalling/Jones
Yes Fernandinho was world class and KDB was at a very similar level, he won player of the year in Germany for christ sakes
Its like people ignore what happens outside of the PL
Pep had to sign fb's thats it in reality
He has signed a keeper more suited to his game plan than Hart so ill give him that aswell
But seriously some of the arguments are hilariously weak
I'd take City's squad before Pep, Peps first season and This season any day over Uniteds
Besides DDG in the season before Pep/Jose who else gets into the City starting 11 as they both have meh fb's

Good man I think some of your arguments are hilariously weak but hey you have watched Wolfsburg against Augsburg and celta Vigo against real sociedad so what would I know.

irishman86

Everton

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Good man I think some of your arguments are hilariously weak but hey you have watched Wolfsburg against Augsburg and celta Vigo against real sociedad so what would I know.

Ok buddy :rolleyes:

TitianGerm

Liverpool

Just looking at MOTD and It looks like Phil Neville cut his own hair with a hedge trimmer. That is worse than any of Pogba haircuts this season.

GavRedKing

Liverpool

One thing I noted about the City v Spurs game but was too hungover to comment about was Craig Pawson, he had an absolute nightmare of a game.

Hes a brutal ref and when we lost to Burnley on the opening day of the season, he sent off Cahill after 15mins for a wild lunge, it was hard to argue that it wasnt a red on the day, he was out of control and lunged in but it was nowhere near as bad or malicious as Kane or Allis tackles against City.

I dont know how a ref cant give reds for either tackle, the inconsistency that some refs apply have to be accountable at some level.

Everton

Issues with Officiating continues to be ignored it seems. When you have ex refs telling us "let the game flow, no need for card here" then you know they are not following to the letter of the law. But maybe those rules are too lax to begin with. Gives them too much opportunity to make their own interpretations

tayto lover

The biggest problem in football, on the field anyway, is poor officiating and has been for a long time. It's just being ignored.

Loafing Oaf

tayto lover wrote: »

The biggest problem in football, on the field anyway, is poor officiating and has been for a long time. It's just being ignored.

Maybe some aspects of the game, such as diving, are effectively impossible to police.

grumpymunster

Spurs

GavRedKing wrote: »

One thing I noted about the City v Spurs game but was too hungover to comment about was Craig Pawson, he had an absolute nightmare of a game.

Hes a brutal ref and when we lost to Burnley on the opening day of the season, he sent off Cahill after 15mins for a wild lunge, it was hard to argue that it wasnt a red on the day, he was out of control and lunged in but it was nowhere near as bad or malicious as Kane or Allis tackles against City.

I dont know how a ref cant give reds for either tackle, the inconsistency that some refs apply have to be accountable at some level.

Spurs are the dirtiest team in the PL by a country mile but get away with so much it is scary. Pawson is a useless ref in the same Burnley game a Burnley player made a significantly worse challenge than Cahill which was only deemed a yellow. By giving Alli and Kane yellows it also protects them from any further action.
These decisions should be reviewed the Alli challenge was so much worse than the Pogba challenge (which I think deserved red also) yet he escapes punishment is just plain crazy.

Harry Palmr

I see the Lanzini "tumble" is being reviewed.

irishman86

Everton

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I see the Lanzini "tumble" is being reviewed.

Has anyone been done yet in a review ?

ERG89

irishman86 wrote: »

Has anyone been done yet in a review ?

Niasse from Everton for a dive at Palace

Paully D

Is Duncan Castles actually Jose Mourinho’s alter-ego?

His tweets man, FFS. :pac:

gstack166

Paully D wrote: »

Is Duncan Castles actually Jose Mourinho’s alter-ego?

His tweets man, FFS. :pac:

Always thought it was a parody account until I had the stupidity to listen to one of his podcasts.

Paully D

Everton

Paully D wrote: »

Is Duncan Castles actually Jose Mourinho’s alter-ego?

His tweets man, FFS. :pac:

He's great
He pisses off rivals being the main reason