General Premier League Thread - 2017/2018

niallo27

Arsenal

Rekop dog wrote: »

Get Simeone in and bring a bit of fecking passion back into the club. It's like a slow rot currently.

Would he go to Arsenal and would arsenal want his style of football.

TitianGerm

Liverpool

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Cech like with both Liverpool's keepers are a couple of levels below what the other top 6 teams have and over the season cost both clubs a considerable amount of points.

Lloris has had a few clangers as well. De Gea, Ederson and Courtouis are above the rest alright.

ERG89

Arsenal's season unravelling in January as opposed to February.
That side was so poor. Feel bad for Maitland-Niles & Wilshire looked like the only players who actually cared.
Wenger bringing on Walcott who isn't wanted by them said it all about the place he put them in.
DT is right he is trying to leave them in such a state it's impossible for anyone to follow up with the septic state of the team.

davycc

Man City

Same old arsenal always bottling!

Now hopefully city hammer pool 6.0 and my weekend is almost done

Rekop dog

Spurs

niallo27 wrote: »

Would he go to Arsenal and would arsenal want his style of football.

I dunno if he'd go, strikes me as someone who likes a challenge though. I'm sure he's had plenty of offers last few years but likes the romantic side of having Atleti competing with giants of la liga. So Arsenal might be a good project. Think it's a good move for any manager tbh, they can't get much worse so plenty of scope for improvement.

Atleti play a pretty pleasing footballing style. Plenty of technical players in that side. They're just very intense and committed hence the defensive solidly.

Rayne Wooney

Arsenal are a joke, it’s sad that Wenger is leaving them in this state. No chance of top 4 and their two quality players are off.

Is there mass fan protest on the horizon?

Berserker

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Arsenal are a joke, it’s sad that Wenger is leaving them in this state. No chance of top 4 and their two quality players are off.

Is there mass fan protest on the horizon?

Has to be nearing that stage now. They are in an awful state. Add Wilshere, one of the few players in that squad who has a bit of passion in him, to the list of departures. It's gonna take an awful lot of money and a few seasons to turn them into title challengers.

davycc wrote: »

Same old arsenal always bottling!

Now hopefully city hammer pool 6.0 and my weekend is almost done

Not going to happen. It's going to be Liverpool's year in 2019, judging by the amount of love that they are getting on Sky and we are going to see why this afternoon.

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

It's sad to see the state of Arsenal these days. That fist 11 is really not top 4 material.

The first 11 is. If they had a manager who had a clue. Pretty much all international starters for decent teams.

Headshot

Awful keeping.

Some day Liverpool might get a competent keeper

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool

Headshot wrote: »

Awful keeping.

Some day Liverpool might get a competent keeper

Its a joke that it hasn't been sorted. It should have been no 1 priority last summer. Every second shot is a goal. Lack of a decent goalkeeper is costing 12-15 pts its a huge problem.

tayto lover

Deleted User wrote: »

The first 11 is. If they had a manager who had a clue. Pretty much all international starters for decent teams.

The first 11 is not good enough. Especially now with Sanchez going and Ozil probably going too.

Paully D

O'Neill has turned down Stoke, per The Telegraph.

When Gary Megson is 3rd favourite in the betting behind O'Neill and Bilic, you know you're in trouble.

What a mess they have made of this.

JimmyMcGill

Is there any way City could blow this? 15 points the difference seems quite unlikely, but if there's any front runners you'd want(or not want) to see out front its City.

Shanotheslayer

Liverpool

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

Is there any way City could blow this? 15 points the difference seems quite unlikely, but if there's any front runners you'd want(or not want) to see out front its City.

City aren't blowing this. No chance.

1 lose and all of a sudden there's talk of them losing a few more games etc.

To go unbeaten was always going to be a struggle it's not as if they lost to Swansea in the Etihad. It was Liverpool in Anfield who have a superb record against the big 6 usually.

JimmyMcGill

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

City aren't blowing this. No chance.

1 lose and all of a sudden there's talk of them losing a few more games etc.

To go unbeaten was always going to be a struggle it's not as if they lost to Swansea in the Etihad. It was Liverpool in Anfield who have a superb record against the big 6 usually.

To be beaten by a non title challenging team is a worry though. Say what you like about Liverpool, ship as many goals as they do you're winning nothing.
City just looked out of ideas today, I agree in principle they should hold onto their lead. Gonna be a huge test for Pep keeping them motivated. At least no one is complaining the club didn't buy them a birthday cake!

klose

If liverpool aint a title challenging team then nobody else are either. The 2 away games at city and spurs slightly skew liverpools goals conceded record also, till today they had only conceded 4 goals at home all season too. Liverpool are poor defensively but are not as bad as before, very interesting to see what vvd will add to the team.

Shanotheslayer

Liverpool

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

To be beaten by a non title challenging team is a worry though. Say what you like about Liverpool, ship as many goals as they do you're winning nothing.
City just looked out of ideas today, I agree in principle they should hold onto their lead. Gonna be a huge test for Pep keeping them motivated. At least no one is complaining the club didn't buy them a birthday cake!

Who is a title challenging team then? Chelsea? United? Silly argument that seems you're trying to get a dig in at Liverpool fans.

irishman86

Everton

klose wrote: »

If liverpool aint a title challenging team then nobody else are either. The 2 away games at city and spurs slightly skew liverpools goals conceded record also, till today they had only conceded 4 goals at home all season too. Liverpool are poor defensively but are not as bad as before, very interesting to see what vvd will add to the team.

This season you could easily say there is no title challenging team, i know your replying to a comment that most likely was a smart arsed one.
Even with the loss i'd be surprised if a team gets within 9 points of City again

ShamoBuc

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

To be beaten by a non title challenging team is a worry though......

Stopped reading there. Joint second = non title challenging?

Some people say the league table doesn't lie.

Others, apparently, dismiss it altogether.

thebaz

Paully D wrote: »

O'Neill has turned down Stoke, per The Telegraph.

When Gary Megson is 3rd favourite in the betting behind O'Neill and Bilic, you know you're in trouble.

What a mess they have made of this.

****, that means we're stuck with O'Neill for another campaign.

Megson would be atroicious , Bilic probably best bet so.

Rumple Stillson

I don't see City slipping up, they will win the league comfortably enough.

The remaining top 4 places may well depend on how deep Spurs, Liverpool, United and Chelsea go in the Champions League.

Think we can discount Arsenal at this stage.

tayto lover

The league is over lads and has been for some time.
City will win pulling up.
The fight is between the 4 teams behind them and it's for 3 positions.

JimmyMcGill

irishman86 wrote: »

This season you could easily say there is no title challenging team, i know your replying to a comment that most likely was a smart arsed one.
Even with the loss i'd be surprised if a team gets within 9 points of City again

Believe what you want, it wasn't.
You're right as regards no title challenging team and it being a year of everyone chasing second to fourth. I was questioning more along the lines of who'd be there to mop up should City squander their lead.
I can't see Liverpool being the team to do That. They've ****ed away too many easy points all year yet will beat all those around them at the drop of a hat. Too inconsistent.
Or is that too smartarse for You? Don't overstretch now.

JimmyMcGill

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Who is a title challenging team then? Chelsea? United? Silly argument that seems you're trying to get a dig in at Liverpool fans.

So you're saying Liverpool are as tight as a ducks arse at the back? Someone better tell JK he's just pissed away £75000000.

ShamoBuc

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

So you're saying Liverpool are as tight as a ducks arse at the back? Someone better tell JK he's just pissed away £75000000.

You claimed the team in joint second are not title challenging, that's very clearly incorrect, the league table doesnt lie.

If you claimed liverpool leak a lot of goals, it would be hard to disagree with you.

But that's not what you said, either way, you've made you anti pool opinion very clear.

Shanotheslayer

Liverpool

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

So you're saying Liverpool are as tight as a ducks arse at the back? Someone better tell JK he's just pissed away £75000000.

Before todays game Liverpool had the best home defensive record in the league by conceding just 4 goals at home.

But as Shamo said, your point wasn't to do with defending.

JimmyMcGill

ShamoBuc wrote: »

You claimed the team in joint second are not title challenging, that's very clearly incorrect, the league table doesnt lie.

If you claimed liverpool leak a lot of goals, it would be hard to disagree with you.

But that's not what you said, either way, you've made you anti pool opinion very clear.

I love watching them play htg. I think Klopp is a real breath of fresh air. I envy ye're home atmosphere especially in Europe. I'm not anti any club, I just mooted a point where City could throw it all away and think Liverpool wouldnt be there to step in, they ship too many.
Christ I'm sorry I ever posted now.

ShamoBuc

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

I love watching them play htg. I think Klopp is a real breath of fresh air. I envy ye're home atmosphere especially in Europe. I'm not anti any club, I just mooted a point where City could throw it all away and think Liverpool wouldnt be there to step in, they ship too many.
Christ I'm sorry I ever posted now.

Don't be like that, we're all friends here, not really but it sounds nice.

Skylinehead

ShamoBuc wrote: »

You claimed the team in joint second are not title challenging, that's very clearly incorrect, the league table doesnt lie.

Yeah, City are 15 points clear. Nobodies challenging that.

Harry Palmr

Before this game, City had trailed in the Premier League for a total of 70 minutes. In this match alone, they were behind for 63

.

Liverpool scored 24% of the goals that Man City conceded this season in the Premier League

KERSPLAT!

Liverpool

No matter how many goals Liverpool are shipping they're still level on points for second, none of the so called challengers are solid throughout the team, that's why they're so far behind City. I genuinely think with a decent keeper Liverpool would be right up there.

ShamoBuc

Skylinehead wrote: »

Yeah, City are 15 points clear. Nobodies challenging that.

The teams closest are automatically the nearest challenging teams. That's just a fact!!

How strong a challenge they represent, is a different question.

fyfe79

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

No matter how many goals Liverpool are shipping they're still level on points for second, none of the so called challengers are solid throughout the team, that's why they're so far behind City. I genuinely think with a decent keeper Liverpool would be right up there.

Alisson at Roma or Donnarumma at Milan would do. Oblak at Atletico would be the ideal choice but he's got a €100m release clause.

Trigger

Liverpool

fyfe79 wrote: »

Alisson at Roma or Donnarumma at Milan would do. Oblak at Atletico would be the ideal choice but he's got a €100m release clause.

Can see Chelsea activating that if Courtois goes to Real

Skylinehead

ShamoBuc wrote: »

The teams closest are automatically the nearest challenging teams. That's just a fact!!

How strong a challenge they represent, is a different question.

Ach by your logic everyones challenging then.

ShamoBuc

Skylinehead wrote: »

Ach by your logic everyones challenging then.

CLOSEST...... the clue is in the word;)


By your logic there are no challengers in the league at all.

Skylinehead

ShamoBuc wrote: »

CLOSEST...... the clue is in the word;)


By your logic there are no challengers in the league at all.

Yeah, there isn't

tayto lover

15 points behind is hardly challenging.
Paddy Power already paid out too and they're no fools.

fullstop

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

To be beaten by a non title challenging team is a worry though. Say what you like about Liverpool, ship as many goals as they do you're winning nothing.
City just looked out of ideas today, I agree in principle they should hold onto their lead. Gonna be a huge test for Pep keeping them motivated. At least no one is complaining the club didn't buy them a birthday cake!

In that case, being beaten by anyone would be a worry then because nobody else is closer to them than Liverpool, no? Which is a bizarre outlook, really. Every team loses at some point.

ShamoBuc

tayto lover wrote: »

15 points behind is hardly challenging.
Paddy Power already paid out too and they're no fools.

It is of course challenging. Not as well as to make it an interesting challenge as of now, but the teams Closest to City are their challengers. You might not agree because of the points difference, but league position dictates it.

tayto lover

ShamoBuc wrote: »

It is of course challenging. Not as well as to make it an interesting challenge as of now, but the teams Closest to City are their challengers. You might not agree because of the points difference, but league position dictates it.

Well if a horse is a furlong or two behind the runaway leader do you still call it challenging?

KERSPLAT!

Liverpool

tayto lover wrote: »

Well if a horse is a furlong or two behind the runaway leader do you still call it challenging?

Depends how far they are from the finish

tayto lover

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Depends how far they are from the finish

The way someone challenges is when they get very close to the leader.
15 points is not close.

irishman86

Everton

fullstop wrote: »

In that case, being beaten by anyone would be a worry then because nobody else is closer to them than Liverpool, no? Which is a bizarre outlook, really. Every team loses at some point.

Well technically United are closer than Liverpool

KERSPLAT!

Liverpool

And likely to be closer again this time tomorrow.

ShamoBuc

tayto lover wrote: »

Well if a horse is a furlong or two behind the runaway leader do you still call it challenging?

If the leading horse fell, who would win ?

JimmyMcGill

ShamoBuc wrote: »

If the leading horse fell, who would win ?

Sure the second horse obviously.
Third and the rest should pull up.
:-)

tayto lover

ShamoBuc wrote: »

If the leading horse fell, who would win ?

No the leading horse knows it has the race won and is just cantering and thus unlikely to fall. It's not even a jumps race anyway.:D

ShamoBuc

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

Sure the second horse obviously.
Third and the rest should pull up.
:-)

But sure the second and third should really just give up as they are not challenging...:pac::pac:

fullstop

irishman86 wrote: »

Well technically United are closer than Liverpool

Yes by 3 goals on GD, but kind of immaterial when 15 points behind.