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The best player from each country to play England

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  • #202
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Here's Giggs personal honors. All while playing in England.

    But yeah Bale was pfa player of the year twice.

    Individual
    PFA Young Player of the Year (2): 1991–92, 1992–93
    PFA Premier League Team of the Year (6): 1992–93, 1997–98, 2000–01, 2001–02, 2006–07, 2008–09
    PFA Team of the Century: 1997–2007
    PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2008–09
    PFA Merit Award: 2016
    FWA Tribute Award: 2007
    Bravo Award (1): 1993
    BBC Sports Personality of the Year (1): 2009
    BBC Wales Sports Personality of the Year (2): 1996, 2009
    GQ Sportsman of the Year (1): 2010
    Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year (1): 1997–98
    Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year (2): 1990–91, 1991–92
    Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02): Overall Team of the Decade
    Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12): Best Player
    Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12): Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons public and panel choice
    Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12): Most Player Appearances (596)
    UEFA Champions League 10 Seasons Dream Team (1992 to 2002): 2002
    Wales Player of the Year Award (2): 1996, 2006
    Premier League Player of the Month (3): September 1993, August 2006, February 2007
    BBC Goal of the Season (1): 1998–99
    Intercontinental Cup Most Valuable Player of the Match Award: 1999
    English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2005
    Golden Foot: 2011


  • #203
    Talisman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Avoiding the controversies of the European nations:

    Africa
    Algeria : Riyad Mahrez
    Benin : Stephane Sessegnon
    Cameroon : Marc-Vivien Foe
    Congo : Yannick Bolasie
    Egypt : Mido
    Gabon : Didier N'Dong
    Gambia : Modou Barrow
    Ghana : Tony Yeboah
    Guinea : Titi Camara
    Ivory Coast : Didier Drogba
    Kenya : Victor Wanyama
    Liberia : George Weah
    Mali : Fredi Kanoute
    Morocco : Mustapha Hadji
    Nigeria : Jay-Jay Okocha
    Senegal : Sadio Mane
    South Africa : Lucas Radebe
    Togo : Emmanuel Adebayor
    Zimbabwe : Bruce Grobbelaar

    The Americas
    Argentina : Sergio Aguero
    Barbados : Emmerson Boyce
    Bermuda : Shaun Goater
    Bolivia : Jaime Moreno
    Brazil : Philippe Coutinho
    Canada : Craig Forrest
    Chile : Alexis Sanchez
    Colombia : Faustino Asprilla
    Costa Rica : Paulo Wanchope
    Ecuador : Ulises de la Cruz
    Grenada : Jason Roberts
    Guyana : Carl Cort
    Honduras : Wilson Palacios
    Jamaica : Robbie Earle
    Mexico : Javier Hernandez
    Montserrat : Ruel Fox
    Paraguay : Roque Santa Cruz
    Peru : Nolberto Solano
    Uruguay: Luis Suarez
    USA : Clint Dempsey
    Trinidad and Tobago : Dwight Yorke
    Venezuela: Salomon Rondon

    Rest of the World
    Australia : Harry Kewell
    China : Sun Jihai
    Japan : Shinji Kagawa
    Korea : Son Heung-min
    Oman : Ali Al-Habsi
    New Zealand : Winston Reid


  • #204
    GT_TDI_150
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    not sure if mentioned already ...


    Iceland ...

    Eider Gudjohnon or Gylfy Sigurdson?


  • #205
    L'prof
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,042 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    not sure if mentioned already ...


    Iceland ...

    Eider Gudjohnon or Gylfy Sigurdson?

    At the moment Gudjohnson. Started at Bolton, earned a move to Chelsea and went on to win the league twice


  • #206
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,160 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Just as well Pele didn't play in England then, isn't it? I mean, he'd be out of the running in this topic...

    The OP wasnt exactly super technical. Even the bloody title should give a solid clue to 90% of people. Fun thread while it lasted.


  • #207
    Stephen15
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    One player I'm surprised nobody mentioned for German Michael Ballack. He was quality for Chelsea.


  • #208
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,024 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    One player I'm surprised nobody mentioned for German Michael Ballack. He was quality for Chelsea.

    He was mentioned a few pages back alright.

    I'd still push for Didi over him, just about, close call though. But Didi was a massive part in pushing an only-ok team to win pretty much every honor available except the league.

    Bert Trautmann was mentioned too... Sounds like an amazing character, but I just don't know enough about him in footballing terms to say one way or the other.


  • #209
    domrush
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭domrush


    Jens Lehmann was a mad but great keeper, worthy of a mention for Germany. Part of the invincibles and holds the record for most consecutive clean sheets in the CL.


  • #210
    Jayop
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    domrush wrote: »
    Jens Lehmann was a mad but great keeper, worthy of a mention for Germany. Part of the invincibles and holds the record for most consecutive clean sheets in the CL.

    It's close, but Hamman's mad accent puts him just infront.


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  • #211
    Donnielighto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Donnielighto


    Jayop wrote: »
    It's close, but Hamman's mad accent puts him just infront.

    Like him as a pundit too.


  • #212
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Donnielighto wrote: »
    Like him as a pundit too.

    Yep, between his voice and Cunningham's eyebrows with independent thought the RTE world Cup panel is always enjoyable,.


  • #213
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »
    Thats because all the best Italian players tended not to play in England.

    Not just England nearly all they're greats have remained in Italy for they're whole careers generally at Juventus, Milan and Inter. I think Cannavaro was the only Italian to ever play for Real. They seem to be nearly like English players since they don't like to move abroad.


  • #214
    Stephen15
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    Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »
    Yes and lets be honest the standard of the premier league when Giggs was at his best was well behind the standard today and when Bale was playing there . With that you've actually made an argument against him rather than for him.

    Not really. Man United, Liverpool and Chelsea we're all challenging for the UCL at that time and even some of the smaller we're doing well in the Uefa cup like Middlesbrough and Fulham. Now they're lucky to get as far as the quarter final.


  • #215
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Spain - Xabi Alonso
    Turkey - Tugay Kerimoglu
    Greece - Karagounis
    Kenya - Wanyama



    PS: Wales - Bale

    Ryan Giggs was one of the elite players when the PL was the equivalent of the Eredivisie is now. When it got better he was still a top player but was crowded out by world elite players. Bale was the best player in the league twice when the league was arguably the best in the world.


  • #216
    Stephen15
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    Talisman wrote: »
    Avoiding the controversies of the European nations:

    Africa
    Algeria : Riyad Mahrez
    Benin : Stephane Sessegnon
    Cameroon : Marc-Vivien Foe
    Congo : Yannick Bolasie
    Egypt : Mido
    Gabon : Didier N'Dong
    Gambia : Modou Barrow
    Ghana : Tony Yeboah
    Guinea : Titi Camara
    Ivory Coast : Didier Drogba
    Kenya : Victor Wanyama
    Liberia : George Weah
    Mali : Fredi Kanoute
    Morocco : Mustapha Hadji
    Nigeria : Jay-Jay Okocha
    Senegal : Sadio Mane
    South Africa : Lucas Radebe
    Togo : Emmanuel Adebayor
    Zimbabwe : Bruce Grobbelaar

    The Americas
    Argentina : Sergio Aguero
    Barbados : Emmerson Boyce
    Bermuda : Shaun Goater
    Bolivia : Jaime Moreno
    Brazil : Philippe Coutinho
    Canada : Craig Forrest
    Chile : Alexis Sanchez
    Colombia : Faustino Asprilla
    Costa Rica : Paulo Wanchope
    Ecuador : Ulises de la Cruz
    Grenada : Jason Roberts
    Guyana : Carl Cort
    Honduras : Wilson Palacios
    Jamaica : Robbie Earle
    Mexico : Javier Hernandez
    Montserrat : Ruel Fox
    Paraguay : Roque Santa Cruz
    Peru : Nolberto Solano
    Uruguay: Luis Suarez
    USA : Clint Dempsey
    Trinidad and Tobago : Dwight Yorke
    Venezuela: Salomon Rondon

    Rest of the World
    Australia : Harry Kewell
    China : Sun Jihai
    Japan : Shinji Kagawa
    Korea : Son Heung-min
    Oman : Ali Al-Habsi
    New Zealand : Winston Reid

    For Egypt I'd go with Ahmed Elmohmamady, for South Africa I'd go for Pienaar he was a good little player in his first spell with Everton, for Honduras I'd say Figueroa he was good helping Wigan to stay up over the years, also Kanu for Nigeria and I'd definitely go with Valencia for Equador ,Ryan Nelsen for New Zealand was excellent with Blackburn and I nearly forgot to mention Lauren for Cameroon.


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  • #217
    Van.Bosch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,935 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    Denmark - saw Molby mentioned but surely Schmeichal?


  • #218
    8-10
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    I thought with his scoring record and being sort of an iconic figure in the 90's that Jurgen Klinsmann would have been in the mix for Germany. Hamann and Ballack are up there but Klinsmann was lethal and was third in the voting for World Player of the Year in 1995 when he left Spurs, ahead of Romario, Stoichkov and Roberto Baggio at the time.

    I'd have him in there for some of the same reasons I'd have Juninho over Coutinho. Those were the poster boy players in the years when the PL went properly global


  • #219
    eagle eye
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    No way it's Yeboah for Ghana, it has to be Michael Essien.

    Gilberto Silva for Brazil just ahead of Juninho imo.


  • #220
    8-10
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    eagle eye wrote: »
    No way it's Yeboah for Ghana, it has to be Michael Essien.

    Gilberto Silva for Brazil just ahead of Juninho imo.
    Didn't think of him for some reason but makes sense! Juninho is the more romantic pick I guess. If it wasn't for Juninho you probably wouldn't have Coutinho playing in England


  • #221
    Dirty Dingus McGee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Not really. Man United, Liverpool and Chelsea we're all challenging for the UCL at that time and even some of the smaller we're doing well in the Uefa cup like Middlesbrough and Fulham. Now they're lucky to get as far as the quarter final.



    England may not be better relative to the other leagues but it's better than where it was in the past due to all players of any quality playing in the top league and not stayng in smaller leagues.All the talent has been squashed into the top 4 or 5 leagues now, that wasn't the case 20 years ago.


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