will we get new pay tomorrow?

judeboy101

acequion wrote: »

Right,got my second paycheck since we got the big pay rise!! Two weeks ago I was sure it had to be wrong,today it's the exact same, so I can confirm that I'll be back doing CP hours,forced to fully cooperate with the new JC and all the extra that will entail. And all for the princely sum of, wait for it:: €20 into my hand a fortnight!!

Not exaggerating or lying here I assure ye. I'm on point 21 on the scale and buying back 10 years through notional service which will eat a bit into any raise but €20!! €10 per week! Wouldn't even feed the dog!

Jesus if it weren't so serious it would be a hilarious joke! :mad::mad:

You can afford a dog on a teachers wage? ;P

acequion

judeboy101 wrote: »

You can afford a dog on a teachers wage? ;P

Will probably downgrade to a cat!

Starkystark

A goldfish for me.

dory

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Yes and we won't get one of them at all apparently so we lost out on a year's worth of an increment.

Can anyone else confirm this is true? I can't find anything on ASTI website (but can absolutely believe it). :mad:

Sir123

dory wrote: »

Can anyone else confirm this is true? I can't find anything on ASTI website (but can absolutely believe it). :mad:

ASTI members who usually received an increment on 1st September have had an approximate 9 month delay on increments due to FEMPI.

Essentially, from now on, you will move up the point of scale on June 10th. So if you were due to move to point 25 this September 2017, before ASTI were subjected to FEMPI, you will now have to wait until June 10th 2018 to receive your increment.

This will however be taken off us again this year if we vote no to LRA2, hence FEMPI again. I am a firm believer that we should vote no to LRA2. We still have not received increments that should have been due since June 10th. It is a disgrace... a few euros a week that would only buy you a pint and we have to also work an additional 33 hours. Not worth it.

SligoBrewer

If we worked in the UK for 9 months, we'd be better set for increments, which is unbelievable.

km79

judeboy101 wrote: »

We won't get paid til we vote yes.

http://www.asti.ie/news/latest-news/news-article/article/increments-and-ss-moiety-payments/

Bean Scoile

I'm on point 14, so it makes no difference to me at all.

rainbowtrout

Bean Scoile wrote: »

I'm on point 14, so it makes no difference to me at all.

But it would make no difference to you whichever side of the agreement you were on, so what exactly is the point you are making? There are several points on the scale which don't involve a financial increase, but the delay takes longer to get to the next one that does.

Bean Scoile

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Bean Scoile wrote: »

I'm on point 14, so it makes no difference to me at all.

But it would make no difference to you whichever side of the agreement you were on, so what exactly is the point you are making?

Just that there won't be an extra bottle of wine in my shopping this weekend.

gavwaldo

Bean Scoile wrote: »

Just that there won't be an extra bottle of wine in my shopping this weekend.

There will be in mine. Been waiting for my increment since March. On 22 hrs the last few years and still broke all the time. It won't make me rich but at least it's one less thing that injects negative energy into my work life.

acequion

gavwaldo wrote: »

There will be in mine. Been waiting for my increment since March. On 22 hrs the last few years and still broke all the time. It won't make me rich but at least it's one less thing that injects negative energy into my work life.

The increase is still peanuts in real terms. And if you think it's worth it for all the extra work and hassle the new JC will bring into your life,not the mention the return of the wonderful CP hours,well good luck to you!

SligoBrewer

3 months of accumulated back pay = €150

what a joke.

Mardy Bum

SligoBrewer wrote: »

3 months of accumulated back pay = €150

what a joke.

What point on the scale did you move to, if you don't mind me asking?

SligoBrewer

Mardy Bum wrote: »

What point on the scale did you move to, if you don't mind me asking?

2 to 3, I think.

Mardy Bum

SligoBrewer wrote: »

2 to 3, I think.

Is there not an increase of about 4k in total because of the increment and recent increases?

Deise17

Mine is about 100e in backpay. For an increment of over 1000e I would have expected more than that.

SligoBrewer

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Is there not an increase of about 4k in total because of the increment and recent increases?

you'd think that.

rainbowtrout

Deise17 wrote: »

Mine is about 100e in backpay. For an increment of over 1000e I would have expected more than that.

Why?


increment ~ €1000
paid 26 times per year = 1000/26 = €38
3 months backpay is approximately 6 pay dates =€228
Marginal rate of tax is 52%, leaving approximately = €109


I have never understood why people seem to think backpay will involve getting back hundreds of euro.

gaiscioch

Just rang up Athlone to have it all explained to me. Essentially:

1. The 'Grouping of Arrears' payment on today's salary goes from 10 June until 14 August for ASTI members. It refers to your increment arrears. You are on the next point of your salary since 10 June last, and it's on that date each year (as things currently stand) that the new salary increment point kicks in.

2.The date entry 'Pay Increase 1/4/17' is not relevant to ASTI members, but the payment is. This money is part of the €1000 increase given to all public sector employees from 1 April 2017. 10 June is the relevant date for this payment for all ASTI members.

3. No more S&S payments, as most of us know: it's part of 'Basic pay'. Basic pay on, say, Point 10, has gone from €43,612 to €45,408. In other words, on that pay point you would get €1796 gross per annum for doing S&S, or around €850 nett per annum.

gaiscioch

judeboy101 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking we are 2 increments (or 2psy scale lvls) behind where we should be?

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Yes and we won't get one of them at all apparently so we lost out on a year's worth of an increment.

I must be missing something in my figures so feel free to correct me. In my case anyway, the financial penalty for not doing the Idiot Hours has not been bad. Had I not been in the ASTI/left the ASTI I would have moved on to my next incremental point on 22 March 2017. I suspect most other ASTI (and TUI) members would have gone onto the next point around that time as the two 15-month-long increments moved our annual increment increase date from September to March (same applied to TUI members, who had to do CPHs). At any rate, there's 49 days of an increment between 22 March and 10 June, and that's what I lost. Well worth it! We, all ASTI members, have moved on to our new salary point since 10 June 2017.

Mardy Bum

SligoBrewer wrote: »

you'd think that.

Then it should be almost 300 of an increase taking arrears into account.

judeboy101

I started in year X on pt 3 of the scale. It is now year Y. Should my salary scale be (Y-X)+3 ?

SligoBrewer

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Then it should be almost 300 of an increase taking arrears into account.

I'll have to check my payslip when I get back home. Maybe I didn't actually get to move up the pay scales because my service to the state was satisfactory.

Mardy Bum

SligoBrewer wrote: »

I'll have to check my payslip when I get back home. Maybe I didn't actually get to move up the pay scales because my service to the state was satisfactory.

I checked mine and I was the same. The basic pay * 26 does not equal the number quoted on the ASTI salary scale. It is over 1000 less in fact. I will have to call payroll.

dory

judeboy101 wrote: »

I started in year X on pt 3 of the scale. It is now year Y. Should my salary scale be (Y-X)+3 ?

No because of the freeze.We've essentially lost 10 months or so. So the number you think you'll be, you will be in June 2018.