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Olympic 50m pistol

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  • 26-06-2017 11:01am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭


    Just got an email from change.org, saying the petition to save 50m pistol at the Olympics has had to close after an AGM, and that competition will no longer be held.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    EGM, and it looks like it's out of the Olympic programme rather than shut down, but it's really lousy news for smallbore ISSF shooting in general :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭gunny123


    It appears they want to do away with all firearms competitions and concentrate on airguns. Hope it doesn't cause us problems with our .22lr pistols in future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭NASRPC


    Sparks wrote: »
    EGM, and it looks like it's out of the Olympic programme rather than shut down, but it's really lousy news for smallbore ISSF shooting in general :(

    NASRPC will be offering its variant - 50m precision pistol on ranges that support it in the 2018 competitions season, and if wanted, onwards.

    FRC,
    MTSC,
    BRACKEN

    To begin with.

    Target is PL7
    4 cards
    First card - 5 mins unlimited sighters
    Then three cards - 5 mins each - 10 scoring shots.

    Max score of 300.030

    Allowed to shoot one or two handed
    Seperate scoring for
    [*]Smallbore iron sights
    [*]Smallbore any sights
    [*]Centrefire iron sights
    [*]Centrefire any sights

    Not the same.thing - but still a match to shoot


  • Subscribers Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    Sparks wrote: »
    EGM, and it looks like it's out of the Olympic programme rather than shut down, but it's really lousy news for smallbore ISSF shooting in general :(

    Yup. Dropping it from the Olympic schedule also means it's going to disappear from the World Cup circuit. That will only leave it as an event in the European Championships and World Championships similar to the 300m rifle events (and now also 50m prone and double trap).
    gunny123 wrote: »
    Hope it doesn't cause us problems with our .22lr pistols in future.

    There's only one person that I know of who's shooting ISSF 50m pistol here so the impact on Irish shooters should be relatively small. Most Irish .22lr pistols would be better suited to the various ISSF 25m smallbore pistol competitions which haven't changed in Olympic status (there are still 2 Olympic and one non-Olympic ones).


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    And over in mainland UK, BANG goes the good reason to have the only .22calibre handgun that actually looks more or less the way the makers intended it to.

    I know that there were actually very few of these expensive one-shot pistols around, mainly due to the horrendous cost and limited use, but they have now been killed stone-dead in England, Scotland and Wales. Not that it matters much to anybody here, of course.

    tac


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  • Subscribers Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭IRLConor


    tac foley wrote: »
    And over in mainland UK, BANG goes the good reason to have the only .22calibre handgun that actually looks more or less the way the makers intended it to.

    European and World Championships should be sufficient, no?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    IRLConor wrote: »
    European and World Championships should be sufficient, no?


    That's all fine and dandy for the VERY few shooters who are good enough to get to that level, but for the rest of us humans, it's dead in the water.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    tac foley wrote: »
    That's all fine and dandy for the VERY few shooters who are good enough to get to that level, but for the rest of us humans, it's dead in the water.

    That can't be material to a legal issue; not unless the law explicitly states that the presence of 50m pistol in the Olympic games programme is the sole justification for owning one. And I don't know of any law that says that explicitly. There was a time when an Irish one did, yes, but that was changed on the grounds that it was chicken droppings (I may be paraphrasing there slightly). If there's an international ISSF event extant, that legally is sufficient to establish good reason; the loss of the event from the Olympic programme is a worry for sporting reasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭gunny123


    tac foley wrote: »
    That's all fine and dandy for the VERY few shooters who are good enough to get to that level, but for the rest of us humans, it's dead in the water.

    Its daft that .22 target pistols of some description are not more available in the uk, as i believe the ownership of centrefire pistols is back to 50% of what it was pre dunblane, due to stalkers getting them for humane dispatch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    gunny123 wrote: »
    Its daft that .22 target pistols of some description are not more available in the uk, as i believe the ownership of centrefire pistols is back to 50% of what it was pre dunblane, due to stalkers getting them for humane dispatch.

    .22 target pistols, like any other type of handgun, are freely available in Northern Ireland, still part of the UK.

    Some stalkers/gamekeepers and some veterinarians do have handguns to be used for humae dispatch. However, they are modified to shoot only TWO shots without reloading, and may not be used for any other purpose, due to the rather odd UK gun laws and the necessity to provide 'good reason' to possess such a firearm. The stalkers' 'good reason' is solely that of 'humane despatch', since there is no other 'good reason' on mainland UK for the possession of a modern cartridge-firing handgun since 1997.

    And since we are bandying figures around, can you provide me with details/source of your figure for the 27,000 stalkers with handguns?

    tac


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