AMD Vega

wotzgoingon · 18-08-2017 7:21pm

TTL got to play around with a Asus Strix 64 model but cannot disclose any information on it.

He also lives on an island off the south of England which I never knew.

Redfox25 · 18-08-2017 7:22pm

I was going with the picture at the bottom of the page linked by Skerries, AMD 64, 499 USD.

Could be wrong ofc.

Pac1Man · 18-08-2017 8:49pm

I'm not convinced by AMD's statement. They could have very easily put this to bed by stating that the prices would be as originally advertised, if that was indeed the case.

I'm skeptical...

Cuddlesworth · 18-08-2017 11:15pm

Serephucus wrote: »

Yeah, saw that. Unless I'm missing something though they don't actually say anything about pricing, they just say "We're going to restock them" not "We're going to restock them at launch prices".

Pac1Man wrote: »

I'm not convinced by AMD's statement. They could have very easily put this to bed by stating that the prices would be as originally advertised, if that was indeed the case.

I'm skeptical...

Launch prices were achieved because of a listed retail sale price, minus a rebate from the seller. So claiming you will still sell at launch prices could still imply MSRP is not achievable, until they qualify if they will continue offering the rebate.

K.O.Kiki · 18-08-2017 11:24pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

TTL got to play around with a Asus Strix 64 model but cannot disclose any information on it.

He also lives on an island off the south of England which I never knew.

Weird, I saw a review of that earlier today.

wotzgoingon · 18-08-2017 11:29pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Weird, I saw a review of that earlier today.

Where?

K.O.Kiki · 19-08-2017 12:57am

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Where?

Hexus.net
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/109078-asus-radeon-rx-vega-64-strix-gaming/

wotzgoingon · 19-08-2017 1:25am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Hexus.net
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/109078-asus-radeon-rx-vega-64-strix-gaming/

That's weird he said he was under NDA.

SickBoy · 19-08-2017 8:49am

wotzgoingon wrote: »

That's weird he said he was under NDA.

Nah he said on Monday that the NDA would lift on the 18th.
The reason he didn't give any results for the Strix was he hadn't time to benchmark the reference Vega yet.

K.O.Kiki · 21-08-2017 11:10am

These drivers have got to be borked, or else this is ridiculous:

Redfox25 · 21-08-2017 11:49am

Some of the youtube reviewers were saying that the drivers they were given wouldn't even allow overclocking and that some of the features were switched off.

K.O.Kiki · 22-08-2017 3:39pm

Huh.

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/44084-amd-radeon-rx-vega-56-und-vega-64-im-undervolting-test.html

RX Vega 56 beating the GTX 1080 FE in benchmarks AND power consumption, once undervolted.

22-08-2017 5:21pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Huh.

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/44084-amd-radeon-rx-vega-56-und-vega-64-im-undervolting-test.html

RX Vega 56 beating the GTX 1080 FE in benchmarks AND power consumption, once undervolted.

Yet which begs the question... why is it not standard?

Venom · 22-08-2017 7:26pm

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Launch prices were achieved because of a listed retail sale price, minus a rebate from the seller. So claiming you will still sell at launch prices could still imply MSRP is not achievable, until they qualify if they will continue offering the rebate.

AMD's PR people should be sacked. They turned the Vega launch into a total cluster**** and managed to not only piss off a huge amount of reviewers but fans of the brand as well.

Redfox25 · 22-08-2017 7:28pm

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-rx-vega-launch-price-reduction?amp

Article from Amd saying they are trying to get sellers to sell vega at the launch prices.
Wonder did they do a u turn or was the price hike just due to a shortage of cards

Venom · 22-08-2017 7:39pm

Redfox25 wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-rx-vega-launch-price-reduction?amp

Article from Amd saying they are trying to get sellers to sell vega at the launch prices.
Wonder did they do a u turn or was the price hike just due to a shortage of cards

If AMD pull a U-Turn on pricing, that's gonna be right down to the profit margin for them which is not a good place for any of us as AMD being profitable and keeping Nvidia and Intel in check, in very much needed in the PC hardware space.

Pricing for new must have GPU's has always been kinda crazy and if you add the current bitcoin mining craze, prices are going to be mental imho.

BloodBath · 22-08-2017 7:40pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Yet which begs the question... why is it not standard?

Makes you wonder wtf their engineers have been doing with Vega for the last 2 years. 73w reduction while maintaining boost clocks is insane.

The strangest part is the performance increase. Why is this happening? Are the cards throttling at the higher voltage?

Vega 56 is looking very tempting now if they can keep them around €450-500 for third party cards.

Cuddlesworth · 22-08-2017 10:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Yet which begs the question... why is it not standard?

BloodBath wrote: »

Makes you wonder wtf their engineers have been doing with Vega for the last 2 years. 73w reduction while maintaining boost clocks is insane.

The strangest part is the performance increase. Why is this happening? Are the cards throttling at the higher voltage?

Vega 56 is looking very tempting now if they can keep them around €450-500 for third party cards.

Binning. You take 100 cards and you will get varying results. You could see it on forums for the Fury. Some people undervolting by 80+mv, others not able to undervolt at all. Some run much hotter then others.

K.O.Kiki · 23-08-2017 2:43pm

Adored in a bit of a strop.

Redfox25 · 23-08-2017 2:49pm

He sums it up well though. He had a few really stroppy videos going back, will have a look for a link later where you could barely understand him due the rage. I like his stuff.

You would hope that who ever had the brainwave of running the Vega launch would be left organising paper clips for the next product launch or making coffee and not let anywhere near the launch.

BloodBath · 23-08-2017 6:00pm

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Binning. You take 100 cards and you will get varying results. You could see it on forums for the Fury. Some people undervolting by 80+mv, others not able to undervolt at all. Some run much hotter then others.

Well that's why you have different models of cards. The top versions should be the best binned stuff. Sell the lower quality stuff at a cheaper price and lower clock speeds.

I'd expect the third party guys to at least get this part right. AMD never seem to get their own cards right. It's getting silly now how they keep messing up all their card launches.

Start firing people and sort things out before it's too late.

SickBoy · 23-08-2017 6:59pm

BloodBath wrote: »

Start firing people and sort things out before it's too late.

?

BloodBath · 23-08-2017 7:05pm

Good point summed up in 1 character

Their reputation is poor.

If it wasn't for people like us recommending their parts when they are actually good I think their sales would be even worse.

Pac1Man · 23-08-2017 8:13pm

I wouldn't wish sackings on anyone.

Just sort it out.

Redfox25 · 28-08-2017 1:45pm

No sign of the vega 56 yet, there were rumors that the Asus Rog AIB version was to launch today too. Could be interesting if the price isnt mental.

28-08-2017 1:53pm

Redfox25 wrote: »

No sign of the vega 56 yet, there were rumors that the Asus Rog AIB version was to launch today too. Could be interesting if the price isnt mental.

Aren't the base cards the same as the 64? given their lack of supply there this would not surprise me to be delayed

farna_boy · 28-08-2017 2:20pm

Redfox25 wrote: »

No sign of the vega 56 yet, there were rumors that the Asus Rog AIB version was to launch today too. Could be interesting if the price isnt mental.

£379 on overclockers.co.uk

There is also a PowerColor card there for £389 and the other aib cards are £479, all on pre-order though.

The problem is that the 1070 is £349 and the 1080s start at £469.

Also, apparently mindfactory.de are sold out already, not that it really matters to us anymore but it is just an indication of where this is going.

Edit: And now they are all gone from overclockers. Launched at 2pm our time and apparently all gone by 2.30pm

Cuddlesworth · 28-08-2017 3:21pm

On the plus side, it looks like the 580 is starting to come into stock again and prices look like they are dropping.

I don't want to be too hopeful but it does seem like the mining bubble is going.

Skerries · 28-08-2017 7:29pm

it was €409 on mindfactory

CS Hasuki · 30-08-2017 10:01am

Venom wrote: »

If AMD pull a U-Turn on pricing, that's gonna be right down to the profit margin for them which is not a good place for any of us as AMD being profitable and keeping Nvidia and Intel in check, in very much needed in the PC hardware space.

Pricing for new must have GPU's has always been kinda crazy and if you add the current bitcoin mining craze, prices are going to be mental imho.

I doubt is has anything to do with AMD. Retailers have been making excuses for price gouging launch cards since forever.

On that note Overclockers.co.uk have cards on sale for £479.99 right now, Vega 64.

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