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For some reason they haven't published the schedule on their website the winter one is still up

LXFlyer

The airport timetable is generally published a week or two late.

A319er

Major FRA disruption tomorrow LH cancel 800 of 1600 flights just in FRA

I am of an age when the Germans didn't do such things !

Captain_Crash

I heard on good authority the other day that Cathay wont be sending the A350 and that the flight will be operated with the 777 instead.

Kev11491

Captain_Crash wrote: »

I heard on good authority the other day that Cathay wont be sending the A350 and that the flight will be operated with the 777 instead.

If true that must mean they expect the route to perform well, extra 60 seats assuming its the three class 77W.

Captain_Crash

Kev11491 wrote: »

If true that must mean they expect the route to perform well, extra 60 seats assuming its the three class 77W.

That's exactly what I said when I was told.

JCX BXC

The poor spotters will lose their lives

Good indication of market however, perhaps the DUB-EDI sector won't be long-lived?

LXFlyer

The DUB-EDI is Hainan not Cathay Pacific.

JCX BXC

LXFlyer wrote: »

The DUB-EDI is Hainan not Cathay Pacific.

I need to pay more attention don't I

Kev11491

JCX BXC wrote: »

I need to pay more attention don't I

I do think Hainan will move to a direct service for Dublin, apparently there are fears of it already by some Scots.

Tenger

Kev11491 wrote: »

I do think Hainan will move to a direct service for Dublin, apparently there are fears of it already by some Scots.

I can see their reasoning. However as with the Norwegian service out of Cork the local market need to use the service to hope to retain it.

LXFlyer

Kev11491 wrote: »

I do think Hainan will move to a direct service for Dublin, apparently there are fears of it already by some Scots.

Tenger wrote: »

I can see their reasoning. However as with the Norwegian service out of Cork the local market need to use the service to hope to retain it.

Aren’t we being a tad previous here??

The service hasn’t even physically launched yet, and will still deliver 2 direct flights in each direction per week for both Dublin & Edinburgh, and 2 indirect per week for each location.

Talk of one leg being dropped even before the flights have physically launched and just after bookings open is a bit much?

The Veteran

Could see both Hainan and Cathay go daily first?

Kev11491

LXFlyer wrote: »

Aren’t we being a tad previous here??

The service hasn’t even physically launched yet, and will still deliver 2 direct flights in each direction per week for both Dublin & Edinburgh, and 2 indirect per week for each location.

Talk of one leg being dropped even before the flights have physically launched and just after bookings open is a bit much?

Apologies, you're right

LXFlyer

LXFlyer wrote: »

Aren’t we being a tad previous here??

The service hasn’t even physically launched yet, and will still deliver 2 direct flights in each direction per week for both Dublin & Edinburgh, and 2 indirect per week for each location.

Talk of one leg being dropped even before the flights have physically launched and just after bookings open is a bit much?

Service increases before launch are quite normal due to forward bookings. It is not unusual for an airline to launch a route at 2 or 3 per week to announce before launch that due to bookings they are increasing to 4-5-6 per week as a result. I see it all the time on @Airlineroute on twitter, they constantly announce route amendments before launch.

Sure there is a rumour on another topic of Cathay already suggesting they are changing type from a 350 to a 777-300 with an extra 60 seats per flight. The next step is a frequency increase.

So I'd suggest that saying Edinburgh loses a flight or Dublin becomes direct only isn't a bit much and the opposite is also true. The airline will know best as they are the ones looking at the actual bookings and they will be able to see whether more passengers are flying from and to Dublin than Edinburgh and that the preference therefore is direct etc.

LXFlyer

Deleted User wrote: »

Service increases before launch are quite normal due to forward bookings. It is not unusual for an airline to launch a route at 2 or 3 per week to announce before launch that due to bookings they are increasing to 4-5-6 per week as a result. I see it all the time on @Airlineroute on twitter, they constantly announce route amendments before launch.

Sure there is a rumour on another topic of Cathay already suggesting they are changing type from a 350 to a 777-300 with an extra 60 seats per flight. The next step is a frequency increase.

So I'd suggest that saying Edinburgh loses a flight or Dublin becomes direct only isn't a bit much and the opposite is also true. The airline will know best as they are the ones looking at the actual bookings and they will be able to see whether more passengers are flying from and to Dublin than Edinburgh and that the preference therefore is direct etc.

I don’t disagree that plans can and frequently do change. Look at Aer Lingus and Oporto for example.

My point was that in this case the bookings are barely open a week - they’re not going to have a lot of booking data that quickly.

The other post seemed to me to be suggesting that there were rumours they were already considering dropping Edinburgh in favour of Dublin.

I’ve not heard of too many new destinations being dropped barely a week after bookings opened??? Have you?

LXFlyer

LXFlyer wrote: »

I’ve not heard of too many new destinations being dropped barely a week after bookings opened??? Have you?

You should follow that twitter account if you don't already. You'd be surprised what airlines do. I agree it doesn't happen often but I've seen it reported on there.

LXFlyer

Deleted User wrote: »

You should follow that twitter account if you don't already. You'd be surprised what airlines do. I agree it doesn't happen often but I've seen it reported on there.

I do follow it but in this context that kind of rumour sounds rather extreme.

Doltanian

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/278052/etihad-ends-perth-service-in-late-sep-2018/

Etihad ends service to Perth from the end of September, this will surely have a negative effect on their Dublin traffic as the route is popular with Irish expats in Australia, good news for Emirates, Qatar Airways and the new Qantas non-stop to Heathrow because of it.

Idbatterim

I was just checking ryanair routes, the only direct flight from Dublin to Stockholm is with SAS? Surely ryanair could do decent enough on that route?!

JCX BXC

Idbatterim wrote: »

I was just checking ryanair routes, the only direct flight from Dublin to Stockholm is with SAS? Surely ryanair could do decent enough on that route?!

They won't fly to Arlanda, which is pretty much where people want to fly into.

Jamie2k9

Idbatterim wrote: »

I was just checking ryanair routes, the only direct flight from Dublin to Stockholm is with SAS? Surely ryanair could do decent enough on that route?!

Norwegian also fly, both Aer Lingus and Ryanair both scrapped their services.

Idbatterim

Busiest March On Record At Dublin Airport Despite Storm Emma

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/detail/busiest-march-on-record-at-dublin-airport-despite-storm-emma

jamo2oo9

Idbatterim wrote: »

Busiest March On Record At Dublin Airport Despite Storm Emma

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest-news/detail/busiest-march-on-record-at-dublin-airport-despite-storm-emma

More likely due to the fact that Easter weekend fell on the last few days in March but still, that's impressive numbers.

At this rate, we'll probably have a new terminal retrofit need in about 10 years down the line assuming there's no economic crash or crisis.

Am I correct saying that the capacity of both terminals is at 35mppa? We'll definitely hit 30m mark this year, possibly 31m.

Pat Dunne

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

assuming there's no economic crash or crisis

Funniest response all day.
We're heading full bore into the next one, as if the last one never happened!

Idbatterim

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/dublin-airport-expecting-record-summer-with-14-new-routes-1.3459462

Dublin Airport expecting record summer with 14 new routes
More than 1.7m extra seats have been added across the airport’s route network

I reckon passengers numbers this year will be 31,500,000 Around 5% growth...

Am I correct saying that the capacity of both terminals is at 35mppa? We'll definitely hit 30m mark this year, possibly 31m.

we were just under 30,000,000 last year...

roadmaster

is the north American transfers pushing up the numbers much or is it just solid increase across the board?

Stephen Strange

roadmaster wrote: »

is the north American transfers pushing up the numbers much or is it just solid increase across the board?

It's up significantly everywhere, with the exception of UK traffic.

LXFlyer

The transfers do push the numbers up as they are included twice - as both arriving and departing passengers.

That to me does need to be taken into account when commenting on airport capacity limits.

LXFlyer

LXFlyer wrote: »

The transfers do push the numbers up as they are included twice - as both arriving and departing passengers.

That to me does need to be taken into account when commenting on airport capacity limits.

They are a bum on a seat of a different flight so they need to be recorded as individual passengers.

Why does it need to be taken into account ?