Sky Sports Revamp

icdg

One other thing - it appears that Sky Sports News will be dropping the silly "HQ" it gained at the last rebrand.

mikeym

So the revamp means nothing to Irish subscribers?

cupthehand1

Captain_Crash wrote: »

Just on the phone to SKY to cancel the sports, and the lady said this new revamp is UK only and that in Ireland nothing changes except the channel names.

Any deal offerred to you to stay or any enticement...

D2D

Wonder whats the story with the 3pm matches. Surely there's an irish version of Sky Sports PL that they can put on the 3pm game?

Captain_Crash

cupthehand1 wrote: »

Any deal offered to you to stay or any enticement...

Haha yes! a massive €6 off a €97 bill... sure jaysus I don't know where they do be pullin such great offers from:P

lertsnim

mikeym wrote: »

So the revamp means nothing to Irish subscribers?

Irish prices will be unveiled on the 15th according to someone on the sky section of this site.

EDIT- sky representative seems to be saying no change for Ireland. Take them all or take none of them. They must be worried about people dropping cricket.

icdg

If that's to be the case I suspect you've hit the nail on the head. There's little or no market for a cricket channel in Ireland. A lot of people might also be tempted to drop F1 while the races remain on C4 and Eir Sport. And golf is also not a huge subscription driver (no pun intended).

That said, let's hear the arguments as to why, for a large chunk of fans who only want the Premier League, why the entry point of Sky Sports in Ireland should be double the UK entry price.

icdg

icdg wrote: »

That said, let's hear the arguments as to why, for a large chunk of fans who only want the Premier League, why the entry point of Sky Sports in Ireland should be double the UK entry price.

Indeed. Streaming is a huge issue and I think they seriously need to look at their pricing to combat it.

The Ayatolla

Captain_Crash wrote: »

Haha yes! a massive €6 off a €97 bill... sure jaysus I don't know where they do be pullin such great offers from:P

The best deals arrive when you've completely ended your service. GIve 30 days notice and call Sky the day it's switched off to get it put back on and usually at a 50% discount.

Elmo

Any link to tiered pricing?

jack presley

Elmo wrote: »

Any link to tiered pricing?

Not happening in Ireland apparently.

Delta2113

jack presley wrote: »

Not happening in Ireland apparently.

- Very unfair if this is the case - expect to hear a lot more about this.

icdg

Seemingly even in the U.K. only Sky satellite customers will be allowed avail of the tiered pricing. Not a consolation, of course.

Delta2113

icdg wrote: »

Seemingly even in the U.K. only Sky satellite customers will be allowed avail of the tiered pricing. Not a consolation, of course.

- Fair enough but then let's be fair and make it also available for Sky satellite customers in ROI.

WestCorkRebel

jack presley wrote: »

From the legal section:

"Main Even Channel is a bonus channel showing live content from the other Sky Sports channels at the same time as it is available on such channels. Only available with the Sky Sports complete pack."

What is the point of this channel if you can watch them on the channel they are on? I don't get it.

I am thinking the same. What exactly is anyone getting out of this channel if it is on another channel they already have?

dublinman1990

D2D wrote: »

Wonder whats the story with the 3pm matches. Surely there's an irish version of Sky Sports PL that they can put on the 3pm game?

Yep. It was confirmed by Sky earlier that Sky Sports PL will show 3pm kick offs in Ireland.

A list of the likely changes from the old channel names to the new ones are there below; though it may change. The source is from Digital Spy.

SKY SPORTS CAPACITY WISE CHANGES

Sky Sports 1 > Sky Sports Main Event
Sky Sports 2 > Sky Sports Cricket
Sky Sports 3 > Sky Sports Action
Sky Sports 4 > Sky Sports Golf
Sky Sports 5 > Sky Sports Premier League (3pm KO's in Ireland will be shown on this channel)
Sky Sports F1 News and Mix unchanged

Not sure which order 3838 and 3841 are yet as the schedules seem to be the same. Looks like just the numbers are being reshuffled.

_Kaiser_

WestCorkRebel wrote: »

I am thinking the same. What exactly is anyone getting out of this channel if it is on another channel they already have?

It could be aimed at pubs or cable operators maybe who don't cover the full range?

jack presley

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

It could be aimed at pubs or cable operators maybe who don't cover the full range?

You only get the channel if you have the full range though.

_Kaiser_

jack presley wrote: »

You only get the channel if you have the full range though.

That's Sky satellite domestic customers though. Commercial agreements would be different. I'm only speculating myself of course

icdg

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Yep. It was confirmed by Sky earlier that Sky Sports PL will show 3pm kick offs in Ireland.

A list of the likely changes from the old channel names to the new ones are there below; though it may change. The source is from Digital Spy.

SKY SPORTS CAPACITY WISE CHANGES

Sky Sports 1 > Sky Sports Main Event
Sky Sports 2 > Sky Sports Cricket
Sky Sports 3 > Sky Sports Action
Sky Sports 4 > Sky Sports Golf
Sky Sports 5 > Sky Sports Premier League (3pm KO's in Ireland will be shown on this channel)
Sky Sports F1 News and Mix unchanged

Not sure which order 3838 and 3841 are yet as the schedules seem to be the same. Looks like just the numbers are being reshuffled.

Just to say though that this won't be how it appears to end users. Sky Sports Premier League will be on 402 and appear to have replaced Sky Sports 2. There's a full list of the new EPG positions here:

401 Sky Sports Main Event
402 Sky Sports Premier League
403 Sky Sports Football
404 Sky Sports Cricket
405 Sky Sports Golf
406 Sky Sports F1
407 Sky Sports Action
408 Sky Sports Arena
409 Sky Sports News
121 Sky Sports Mix

icdg

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

It could be aimed at pubs or cable operators maybe who don't cover the full range?

That's paritially the point - there are still some providers (BT Vision) who only carry Sky Sports 1 & 2. These will now only carry Sky Sports Main Event and an additional "Sky Sports Extra" (not the first time they have used this name!) channel that will exist solely to show Premier League games on the occasion that they are not shown on Main Event.

The other point is simply ratings - to ensure that events which will be top rated get a prominent position on the EPG. Its the same mentality that sees prominent golf tournaments on both Sky Sprorts 1&4 lately.

byte

Even noticed it the other day on BBC when Andy Murray was playing at Wimbledon - the coverage was moved from BBC2 to BBC1, with the One Show, etc swapping over to BBC2.

Apparently for ratings...

Schwanz

Interesting to see what channel they put the 3pm on for us here in Ireland

edit - just noticed that it should be shown on Sky Sports PL

sheroman01

A channel dedicated to cricket? Really?

Schwanz

sheroman01 wrote: »

A channel dedicated to cricket? Really?

Aimed at the UK really, we'll get it but will be hardly watched

Delta2113

Sky could easily do 2 Cricket channels at certain times of the year. I wonder will they still do a sky darts at certain times of the year dropping action or arena.

A bit of an embarassment for Sky Sports and its new golf channel: they've lost the rights to the USPGA championship. The PGA of America decided not to renew its deal with Sky. It's possible UK & RoI viewers may not get to see the event at all this year.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/us-pga-championship-set-for-tv-blackout-as-sky-lose-rights-1.3154087

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/13/rory-mcilroy-scottish-open-golf-poulter-fowler

mike2084

Deleted User wrote: »

A bit of an embarassment for Sky Sports and its new golf channel: they've lost the rights to the USPGA championship. The PGA of America decided not to renew its deal with Sky. It's possible UK & RoI viewers may not get to see the event at all this year.

That's one I didn't see coming. Apparently the PGA want to try 'something different', which sounds to me like web-streaming for a fee no doubt. Could change the way sports are broadcast or else will blow up in their face.

jimbo2007

An update on Sky Sports for you Irish viewers

Sky Sports 2 Ireland closed last week so there is no version of the forthcoming Sky Sports Cricket with local Irish ads any more.

In the UK, Sky Sports 3 will become Sky Sports ACtion.  You know the rest of the line-up changes

However, the feed of Sky Sports 3 Ireland will swap to a local version of Sky Sports Arena instead of Sky Sports ACtion from 0600 on Tuesday morning.

So in Ireland you will see local versions of

Sky Sports Main Event
Sky Sports Arena
Sky Sports Golf
Sky Sports Premier League
Sky sports News

Just in case anyone is confused, that appears to be the situation.

Hope that is of help to you.

jimbo2007

Sorry - the local list above should have read

So in Ireland you will see local versions of
Sky Sports Main Event
Sky Sports Arena
Sky Sports Golf
Sky Sports Premier League
Sky sports News
Sky Sports Football

You will get UK versions of

Sky Sports Cricket
Sky Sports Action
Sky Sports F1
Sky Sports Mix

Hope that is helpful.

icdg

Makes sense that Sky wouldn't be bothered with Irish adverts on the cricket channel, and that they'd be more interested in putting them on the channel that GAA and rugby union will be shown on.

Schwanz

icdg wrote: »

Makes sense that Sky wouldn't be bothered with Irish adverts on the cricket channel, and that they'd be more interested in putting them on the channel that GAA and rugby union will be shown on.

Yep, I'm very sure that channel gets under 10% of the Sky Sports viewership on the whole here in Ireland.

mikeym

Whats the point in the rebrand when Irish subscribers wont be able to pick what channels they want to watch?

There are a lot of unhappy posts on the Talk To Sky Forum.

Btw What channel will show the Efl Carabao Cup?

Schwanz

mikeym wrote: »

Btw What channel will show the Efl Carabao Cup?

Imagine it will be Sky Sports Football

mollser

It spreads their sport very thinly, always thought there was little on ss at the best of times but now you'll have a lot of channels with a lot of filler a lot of the time. ..

peejay1986

In addition to the poor deal that Irish customers are getting, the icing on the cake is that it's still SD as standard. In 2017 I find that absolutely laughable.

Even Sky Cinema has been upped to include HD. They just know that many people have no option but to stick with Sky Sports so the basic package can be as measly as they like.

Delta2113

The Women 's Cricket today was on 3 sky sports channels at the same time. Still having to pay more for HD is a disgrace.

dulpit

Does anyone know what the point is of keeping the SD channels in the EPG too? Can't they just downscale if you don't have HD package?

icdg

Because the first couple of generations of Sky digibox were SD only and couldn't view HD channels at all. There might still be some out there with those boxes though it's a while since I last came across one.

jack presley

Delta2113 wrote: »

The Women 's Cricket today was on 3 sky sports channels at the same time. Still having to pay more for HD is a disgrace.

I really hope they show When Terry Met Kane again. I'd really like to see it for the 10th time.