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Jobstown 6 Not Guilty

  • 29-06-2017 12:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭


    Breaking news

    The result I expected really


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Good, the whole case was a farce. I wonder how much it cost putting on that charade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    Justice.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Good God we'll have to suffer more through Murphy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭Glebee


    What a waste of time and money...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Sleeve of wizard


    Just broke a while ago.

    What a colossal waste of taxpayers money that case was.

    I suppose the legal profession will have did quite well out of it though, but nice to see common sense prevailed, and it has been established that what Murphy and his cohorts partook in, was not false imprisonment.


    Ridiculous trial all together.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/courts-jobstown-jury-3469624-Jun2017/?utm_source=shortlink


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Shame.

    They didn't look to be guilty though so I guess it is the right result.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Sleeve of wizard


    godtabh wrote: »
    Good God we'll have to suffer more through Murphy

    If only he had of been wrongly convicted, you wouldn't have to though :confused:

    Justice sucks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    I wonder will this embolden Murphy or will he remember the ridiculous length of time and effort wasted on this trial.
    Personally, I will also take from the verdict, that if I am ever in my car surrounded by a mob from the "Everything is Free" party I will just gun the engine and break through. If there are any consequences I can quote this precedent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    Fix - eitheer they had insiders on the jury or noibbled a cpouple fo jury members.

    He shoudl nahve been jailed for ten years - imagine having to listen to his self righteous bull for ever more now. And his silver spoon upbringing where he wanted for nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭spoonerhead


    They did nothing wrong so it was the correct verdict.

    However the taught of these guys knocking at my door talking 'social justice' and how I'm a victim of society will be disappointing


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  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gonna be hard for some people to support the court's decision surely. Because the courts are always wrong. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    I'd say Burton is gutted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    So what about the 16 year old who was previously convicted?

    Hopefully his conviction quashed and his name is cleared.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    Farce of a trial!! waste of money!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,403 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    An outrageous waste of tax payer's money in an essential effort to silence political dissent and discourage peaceful protest. Everything about this was an unseemly charade, from the ridiculous decision to have 8 Gardai arrest Murphy to the decision to push for the most severe charges possible. Justice has been done, and I hope Murphy is emboldened to continue his activist brand of politics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    P.ie will be agitating for a national holiday to mark the heroic sacrifice of the oppressed, and their freedom from state tyranny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,270 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Good, the whole case was a farce. I wonder how much it cost putting on that charade.

    A lot less than the free water they were after.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Justice! Good enough for oul Joan the moan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Now to charge the guards that perjured themselves.




    Right? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,294 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Magic.. watch all the right wingers gnash their teeth at this news


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    I'm not privy to aall the facts but when Judge Greally told the jury that "total restraint" must be proven I thought it became clear that this case hadn't a leg to stand on..

    Question is why did it ever get this far ?

    Heads should roll given the costs involved here but of course this being ireland, those same heads will get promotions followed by CEO style pensions..

    ****in joke of a country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,307 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Id say Murphy is disappointed, there goes his dream of martyrdom and his plan to write his great socialist call to arms from behind bars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    will he remember the ridiculous length of time and effort wasted on this trial.

    I think the trial will prove to have been a huge success to Murphy's prospects of getting re-elected (apart from the fact that a guilty verdict would have disqualified him from running).

    He was probably safe enough anyway but he'll probably top the poll next time.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hopefully now they'll all be free to pay for their rubbish in accordance to the weight of it/how much they decide to pollute the world.

    Roll on the next round of opposing price gouging by underregulated utility firms who are given lucrative state contracts (justified opposition), while opposing the creation of responsible environmental policy that financially penalises Irish citizens who have no respect for our environment (unjustified opposition).

    Pay as you use is the only sensible environmental way to go, as is regulation of the companies involved so that they cannot, like the car insurance companies are continuing to do, rob us blind by virtue of legislation which compels us to purchase their product.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Sleeve of wizard


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Id say Murphy is disappointed, there goes his dream of martyrdom and his plan to write his great socialist call to arms from behind bars

    I doubt he'll be as disappointed as the hoardes of folk who had him convicted from the start.

    A shameful waste of taxpayers money on a sham case, and Murphy granted all the free publicity he could ever want.

    Epic failure from those that conspired to silence the right to protest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,517 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Only for video evidence they would have been locked up on dodgy Garda statements that fully contradicted with video evidence. Is there any punishment for false statements? I suppose this is a prime example of why the Gardaí don't want body cams.

    I'd say a conservative estimate that was €5million blown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Breaking News. Paul Murphy has exploded outside the court house in what appears to be the first reported case of human combustion due to excessive pride, hubris and pomposity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Id say Murphy is disappointed, there goes his dream of martyrdom and his plan to write his great socialist call to arms from behind bars

    Yeh, let's focus on somebody who isn't guilty of anything.

    As opposed to those who perjured themselves.

    AGS disgracing themselves again. Dawn raids. :rolleyes: Their previous attempt to stitch up left wing deputies. Their lax attitude to white collar criminality.

    The state is rotten to the core.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I was all set for a family weekend of rioting in Tallaght:(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Now to charge the guards that perjured themselves.




    Right? :rolleyes:

    I havent been taking much of an interest in it, but in which way did the gards lie ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Good. An absurd case, that never should have gotten this far, in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Breaking News. Paul Murphy has exploded outside the court house in what appears to be the first reported case of human combustion due to excessive pride, hubris and pomposity.

    You certainly won't get Joan Burton or our corrupt police force exploding in shame, that's for sure.

    Hopefully Joany can get back to opening food banks sooner rather than later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,051 ✭✭✭appledrop


    The right result. The charges were ridiculous. False imprisonment is a serious charge + the way it was applied here is a joke. Total waste of tax payers money. Also think of all the man hours the Gardai have wasted on this case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    I havent been taking much of an interest in it, but in which way did the gards lie ?


    The way they normally do.
    They have form you do know that?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Donal55 wrote: »
    The way they normally do.
    They have form you do know that?

    Ye thanks, thats a great explanation


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,649 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Burton must be sick - stupid wagon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    If surrounding a car for three hours is not false imprisonment what was it? I'm thinking in legal terms not political


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,468 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Was there ever going to be a different result? Was an absurd abuse of taxpayer's money.

    The only people to benefit from this were legal counsels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Sean Fitz was acquitted too.

    Our justice system is top notch:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I havent been taking much of an interest in it, but in which way did the gards lie ?

    The judge basically directed the jury to ignore AGS evidence.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Sean Fitz was acquitted too.

    Our justice system is top notch:)

    Rich or poor, you'll get off thanks to biased "stick it to the man" juries!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Burton must be sick - stupid wagon

    She'll be crying in to her obscene pension.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Good result. I was convinced they were going down to send out a message to dissenters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Was there ever going to be a different result? Was an absurd abuse of taxpayer's money.

    The only people to benefit from this were legal counsels.

    40 days of it... Ching Ching


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Hmmm. I wonder if Clare Daly's car was surrounded by angry people for three hours would there be the same reaction. Anyway, I'm not a legal eagle but maybe there is the makings of a civil case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,346 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Peaceful protest my ass, it was an attempt to intimidate a democratically elected TD.

    When it happens again, the guards should just send in the public order unit.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Magic.. watch all the right wingers gnash their teeth at this news

    Right wingers....as in people who believe in the rule of law?

    This case shows that the system works. So for all the criticism of the jury selection, the DPP, the Judge etc etc, the system provided a verdict in accordance with law, and that is justice. It might not have been what some people wanted, indeed, it might not have been what anyone wanted, especially not those who were setting themselves up to be martyrs, but it is an endorsement of the jury system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    I dislike Paul Murphy and pretty much everything he claims to stand for with his approach of conning people into believing they dont have to pay for anything but should expect everything their hearts desire to be provided by someone else. The behaviour at the protest was wrong in any number of ways and I suspect a jury would have been far more open to a more reasonable set of charges (breach of the peace, criminal damage etc). However False Imprisonment was an utterly stupid thing to charge him with. Any jury listening to claims of False Imprisonment were always going to laugh that one out of court. Now all Joan Burton and co have done is make Murphy a hero to the welfare class and destroyed what little respect his supporters had for the justice system.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hmmm. I wonder if Clare Daly's car was surrounded by angry people for three hours would there be the same reaction. Anyway, I'm not a legal eagle but maybe there is the makings of a civil case?

    Who would be taking the case? Joan Burton didn't initiate this case. What a waste of public money. (I assume all their costs will be covered, not just Paul Murphy's)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Who would be taking the case? Joan Burton didn't initiate this case. What a waste of public money. (I assume all their costs will be covered, not just Paul Murphy's)

    Joan Burton could take the case if such a case could be made.


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