Lions v New Zealand, 2nd Test, 1/7 8.35AM

molloyjh

BBDBB wrote: »

Need to get wide quicker, exploit that extra man advantage

Easier said than done in those conditions.

irishman86

Nearly brilliant by Murray, weak by Toby. What would he have achieved by tackling Ioane after he caught the ball, challenge ffs

irishbucsfan

Shane Fierce Tinder wrote: »

I never knew that law, if you choke tackle from a kick take it's not a turnover.

Any maul directly from a kick, yes

BBDBB

Interesting, time for a brew

CurryFlavoured

Great thinking by Murray. I hate when teams go for a dropgoal when they've got penalty advantage, makes no sense. Take a chance.

Erik Shin

That was a beautiful kick from Murray, great thinking and unlucky it didn't pay off .

ThisRegard

If he had watched the ball and not the player for that kick he may have nabbed that.

long_b

Good man OF

irishbucsfan

Love this match so far. So great to get consistency at the breakdown.

Lions loss is totally inexcusable though, ABs are fit but they're a man short.

sydthebeat

Shane Fierce Tinder wrote: »

I never knew that law, if you choke tackle from a kick take it's not a turnover.

Only from an open play kick or pen

Kanrith

If Watson followed that kick quicker, he would have been there when it dropped down.

razorblunt

Bit lazy from Faletau there, jogged to challenge and attempted a tackle that would have no impact.

Asus X540L

Joe Duffy used cars anything to Joe Duffy the radio guy ?

irishman86

Kanrith wrote: »

If Watson followed that kick quicker, he would have been there when it dropped down.

Or maybe Toby should have tried to challenge for the kick :rolleyes:

SOB and Itoje the standouts for me so far. Warburton has done well too.

sydthebeat

All Blacks decide to stay a man down in the forwards, in that weather....

Surely enough of a reason for the lions forwards to take that as a slight and lift their game.

A few passengers out there at the moment. Faletau I'm looking at you. George and tadhg need to get involved a bit more.

The breakdown is being controlled excellently so no excuses there.

Its certainly there for the taking if they can keep their discipline and so giving away silly pens, and infuriatingly most of those silly pens were Irish ones.

CurryFlavoured

ThisRegard wrote: »

If he had watched the ball and not the player for that kick he may have nabbed that.

Yeah it was the wrong man in the right position.

Naholo looks poor under the high ball, almost as bad as Williams.

irishbucsfan

Delighted to hear McGeechan is alright.

For those not watching Sky, the hospital found his old NZ medical number from back when he toured with the Lions, which is mildly interesting enough for Sky to make a promo about next week I'm sure.

Kanrith

irishman86 wrote: »

Or maybe Toby should have tried to challenge for the kick :rolleyes:

That too :P

pickarooney

irishman86 wrote: »

Nearly brilliant by Murray, weak by Toby. What would he have achieved by tackling Ioane after he caught the ball, challenge ffs

Preventing a 100m try... but with penalty advantage that's negated. Not sure why that was being called a genius kick. It's bread and butter stuff in that situation.

laurie88

half the penalties aren't
the ref has made some dumb calls and left some alone
our adjudicator is about as impatient as some of the players

crisco10

pickarooney wrote: »

Preventing a 100m try... but with penalty advantage that's negated. Not sure why that was being called a genius kick. It's bread and butter stuff in that situation.

the kick from Murray was just a hoof it and hope! Right decision, but not genius or anything!

sydthebeat

laurie88 wrote: »

half the penalties aren't
the ref has made some dumb calls and left some alone
our adjudicator is about as impatient as some of the players

He's been very good
Consistent and clear, which is what everyone wants.
The fact he's reffing the breakdown immediately should be obvious to both teams.

Something I'm not sure I'd ever see.

PP have the Lions at -1.0 in the in-play betting. They think the Lions are favourites to beat NZ. In NZ. I need a lie down.

irishbucsfan

sydthebeat wrote: »

He's been very good
Consistent and clear, which is what everyone wants.
The fact he's reffing the breakdown immediately should be obvious to both teams.

Absolutely

BBDBB

molloyjh wrote: »

Easier said than done in those conditions.

True, but passing it into a pod of 3 players usually a forward is just setting up more of the same

yosser hughes

Jack McGrath has a big opportunity if/when he comes on. Scrums will be interesting as this half goes on

Cloudio9

pickarooney wrote: »

Not sure why that was being called a genius kick. It's bread and butter stuff in that situation.

Yeah it's just the logical play with no time left and not difficult for a top player to execute.

Lion's defensive line a mile offside.

laurie88

now that it's a bit drier
BB needs to start running
I can imagine the subs will be the difference again for both

prettyboy81

Horrible miss.

irishman86

Basil3 wrote: »

Lion's defensive line a mile offside.

They have been offside about a month now :pac:

kilns

If lions discipline doesnt improve they will lose this. Sone very cheap penalties

irishbucsfan

That's a get out of jail free card

irishman86

A Beuaden

pickarooney

That was his cornea Retallick was replacing, right?

CurryFlavoured

If we can't beat NZ today we never will.

Odd that - was sure the maul penalty would have gone to the Lions there.

laurie88

sydthebeat wrote: »

He's been very good
Consistent and clear, which is what everyone wants.
The fact he's reffing the breakdown immediately should be obvious to both teams.

and there's another gone missing

are you sure?
like sure sure?

Was that maul from the drop out?

irishbucsfan

laurie88 wrote: »

and there's another gone missing

are you sure?
like sure sure?

Another what?

irishbucsfan

Sylas Colossal Lifesaver wrote: »

Was that maul from the drop out?

Yes

paulie21

Stupid penalties been conceded

prettyboy81

Another error this is beyond hopeless.

Dirty dirty Murray :pac:

I think the Lions are happy to give away penalties now. Beauden having a shocker.

irishman86

Murray could get a yellow

Clegg

Moronic from Murray.

razorblunt

The repeated, soft penalties is incredibly frustrating.

irishbucsfan

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Yes

Aren't drop outs exclude from the kick rule so it should have been a lions scrum?

edit:
17.6 (h)
Scrum after a maul when catcher is held. If a player catches the ball direct from an opponent’s kick, except from a kick-off or a drop-out, and the player is immediately held by an opponent, a maul may form. Then if the maul remains stationary, stops moving forward for longer than 5 seconds, or if the ball becomes unplayable, and a scrum is ordered, the team of the ball catcher throws in the ball

ThisRegard

irishman86 wrote: »

Murray could get a yellow

Just a headlock really.