Fat kids

Galwayguy35

Fat kids have always been around but there are probably more of them now.

I was a fat kid, and I mean proper lardarse fat, but by aged 15 I decided it was a problem and dealt with it.

Diet and exercise solve the problem in most cases.

B0jangles

Candie wrote: »

It's depressing when people have absolutely no shame in referring to a kid as 'that' and calling kids unlovable if they're overweight.

Just when I thought AH couldn't hate kids and their parents more. So fat unlovable kids, and we get to blame the parents -and don't forget the feminists! - too! It's like a hat trick of nastiness.

No, I'm not a parent.

Don't you get it guys? It's edgy humour, people responding negatively to the OP just make him ROFL

It's like the hilarious fad that was 'happy slapping', but for the even more cowardly and pathetic.

vvv Prime example vvvv

I love Sean nos

gizmo81 wrote: »

The only person 'unloveable' is the person who has no love in their heart that they ridicule children and people struggling with a medical condition.

Not stopping shovelling food into your cakehole is a medical condition now?

mickrock

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I find them rather unsightly. I'm not a bad person but I look at them and think how could anyone love that?

Maybe all the fat kids could be rounded up and put in a concentration camp or something.

Paddy Cow

gizmo81 wrote: »

I think this is probably one of the most reprehensible posts I've seen on boards.ie in my short time here and I've seen some sh1te!

People love other people including their offspring for a variety of reasons and lowest on the list is how attractive they are.

Obesity, like it's binary opposite Anorexia is a medical condition caused by a variety of reasons. Thyroid, Common Steroids for Asthma, Borderline Personality Disorder, Diabetes and so on can contribute.

Another factor is stigmatisation which makes the problem repeat in a vicious circle.

It's such a cheap shot, and a reflection on the commentator rather than their target.

I believe to take such a nasty shot at such a vulnerable group, overweight children, the commentator must be lacking any kind of empathy and education.

The only person 'unloveable' is the person who has no love in their heart that they ridicule children and people struggling with a medical condition.

A small number of children might have medical reasons for being overweight but the vast majority is down to the parents feeding them crappy food, snacks and fizzy drinks.

When we were kids we had our mother driven demented asking for coke. "There's plenty of coke in the taps" was her reply. We'd want nuggets and chips and get served up the Irish staple of meat, potatoes and veg.

The difference between then and now? My mother was a stay at home mother and was able to prepare proper meals. Plus there was no fast food outlets where we lived and it was cheaper to cook proper meals. These days parents are stressed from working and a lot just find it easier to give the kids what they want, rather than what they need. Plus most overweight kids have overweight parents who already have bad eating habits.

I can understand you taking issue with the tone of the op but the essence of it cannot be overlooked. If kids develop bad eating habits in childhood, it's going to be very hard for them to break them as adults. Parents are not doing their kids any favours by taking the easy option. They are setting them up for a lifetime of bad health. It really is worrying but I don't know how as a society we can address this.

I love Sean nos

LincolnHawk wrote: »

The food pyramid doesn't help

It certainly does not when you eat the entire pyramid.

Dr Crayfish

Paddy Cow wrote: »

My mother was a stay at home mother and was able to prepare proper meals. Plus there was no fast food outlets where we lived and it was cheaper to cook proper meals. These days parents are stressed from working and a lot just find it easier to give the kids what they want, rather than what they need. Plus most overweight kids have overweight parents who already have bad eating habits.

I don't really get this. It takes about 20 minutes to cook a healthy meal. I do it nearly every day! We also got some crap, like findus crispy pancakes etc. I remember I used to eat 2 of those mini pizzas and a can of alpha-ghetti for lunch nearly every day, and there wasn't a pick on me. If I did that now I'd be massive. How much food must these kids actually eat? It must be a hell of a lot.

I wasn't a skinny kid but ate healthy and was active. What was going on there I wonder? Could it perhaps be something not as black and white as "eat better = not tubby"?

rustynutz

The reason why so many kids and adults struggle with their weight in modern ireland? I think there are many reasons, but let's get one thing straight, nobody wants to be fat, and definitely not a kid, other kids aren't kind to a fat kid. I think the top two reasons are:
1. Both parents have to work in most homes in Ireland today just to make ends meet, this means very little time for cooking decent, healthy, home cooked meals from basic ingredients.
2. I think the second reason is the biggest one though - The food industry has been allowed get away with putting absolute ****e into our food for decades, enormous amounts of sugar and salt, trans fats, corn syrup, genetic modified wheat and other crops, over farming land so the nutritional value of our fruit and veg is a fraction of what it was a generation ago. And on top of this they are allowed to advertise this junk to our kids.

So while we all have to take responsibility for what we eat, I think we have been failed by governments allowing big food corporations to produce and market substandard crap as food.

I know the OP was trying to get a reaction with the original post and probably isn't serious but when I see an overweight kid I feel sad as I'm sure they don't want to be like that, and I'm also sure their parents don't want to see their kid overwight and bullied.

I think the first two steps to try and get a handle on obesity should be, first, reduce or eliminate all tax (or subsidise) on fruit, veg and meat, any reduction in tax intake would be paid for by the reduction in the health service bill. It should be far cheaper to eat healthy food than junk food. And secondly, ban advertising on unhealthy foods, just like with cigarettes and alcohol. I won't hold my breath though as big business are running the show so we can't effect the profits of these companies, now can we!

gizmo81

In my aim to educate the masses instead of pointing you to the magical keys beneath your fingers, I take pity at your ignorance and beckon you forth into the word of knowledge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge_eating_disorder

I love Sean nos wrote: »

Not stopping shovelling food into your cakehole is a medical condition now?

mcgiggles

Dr Crayfish wrote:

All I ever seemed to eat was bread, potatoes, and pasta growing up and we hadn't a pick on us. I don't think there's anything wrong with carbs. I like the blaming feminists approach though.

We got half and half proper meat and veg and then there were the chips and crispy pancakes days too.. the difference was there was no such thing as xbox/ ipad/ mammys phone.. we were out running around like mad hatters or cycling/ skating/ playing tip the can/ building huts till the sun went down burning all of it off again!

Wesser

Where I work, the kids queue up in the spar at morning time and lunch time for massive carby baguettes loaded with spicy chicken eaten with crisps and coke.

Armchair Andy

Wesser wrote:

Where I work, the kids queue up in the spar at morning time and lunch time for massive carby baguettes loaded with spicy chicken eaten with crisps and coke.

That's considered normal now.
Wrong on the parent's behalf for giving them the money. Wrong on the shop's behalf for feeding off the bottom feeders. Wrong on the kid's behalf cos they're shovelling that stuff into themselves.
Vicious circle that if one broke, the other two would capitulate but no, sure who'd take that responsibility? Blame the next fella mentality.

SnakePlissken

frag420 wrote: »

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I've just been noticing tonnes of fat kids around lately. Like really fat. I find them rather unsightly. I'm not a bad person but I look at them and think how could anyone love that? When I was in school, in the 90s, I think there was one fat kid in my year. He used to get tonnes of sh*t over it too. I wonder if fat kids get bullied now or if everyone's just used to it? What can we do to stop more fat kids happening? Do you have a fat kid? How did it happen?

The thing about being a fat kid is that you can become thin if you want to, they can do something about it!!

The thing about being a judgemental asshat is that it tends to stay with you...you will always be that person!!

Stay classy Dr!!

Spot the fatty 😉

Paddy Cow

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I don't really get this. It takes about 20 minutes to cook a healthy meal. I do it nearly every day! We also got some crap, like findus crispy pancakes etc. I remember I used to eat 2 of those mini pizzas and a can of alpha-ghetti for lunch nearly every day, and there wasn't a pick on me. If I did that now I'd be massive. How much food must these kids actually eat? It must be a hell of a lot.

They eat the wrong food, the portions are too big and they don't get enough exercise. Pedo mania has parents afraid to let kids out on their own or walk to school. Plenty of my generation (30's) tell anecdotes of how they were out all day playing etc but it's that generation that is raising this generation of "fatties". Back in my day, there was no mobile phones/internet/online games and we were so bored that we went outside to socialise. If you tried to use the one house phone to ring your friends you'd be killed for putting the bill up, so if you wanted to talk to them, you had to actually go and talk to them.

It's very easy now to spend all day in your house and not feel the need to go out. Since I moved to the big schmoke (Galway :pac:) I've put on weight because I now have access to fast food and fast internet. I'm not overweight because I've suddenly developed a gene mutation. I know it's because I eat too much garbage. I'm actively trying to shed the pounds and I have to make the effort to plan and budget my meals. I only have my animals to take care of but I can honestly tell you there are some days I come home from work where I just can't be ar$ed to cook and end up eating a frozen pizza or ordering takeaway.

I love Sean nos

SnakePlissken wrote: »

Spot the fatty ��

We've another one here. :pac:

gizmo81 wrote: »

* Excuses *

Give me cake!

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=14747&d=1366929285

freshpopcorn

You can have a nice healthy dinner with meat, potatoes/rice/pasta and veg and have a good size portion. A lot of food now is ruined with sauces. Which are filled with sugar. Some people don't know the difference in taste in meat due to mucky sauces. Which often aren't good for you.
Veg is another thing. Almost everybody can get veg that they'd like but some people just through any old muck in front of their kids and I'm not surprised they don't like it or it. Their's lots of veg out their and you can also try different cooking methods.
I would never have being a very sporty child and my diet wasn't great at times. One thing tough. Whilst I never loved sports I was always on my feet and walking around the place.Some people just sit down after school and don't move until going to bed.
Theirs plenty of meat and vegetables on offer in supermarkets now and you don't need to free range/organic everything to be healthy. So, I don't buy the excuse of everything is being to expensive. Another common excuse is their no education out their. Theirs more education for parents.kids than ever before. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know what's good for you.

dellas1979

I saw an extremely obsese lady walking today.

And, I felt both sad and angry for her. Sad as she was struggling away. Angry because how could she do that to herself?

I was watching the programme Dr. In the House the other night, and it was clear from over weight parents and over weight kids, that they didnt have a clue about nutrition or exercise.

Lookit, I likes me fast food on occasion. But, eating it every day and night...not a vegetable in sight. I do wonder how people can sustain these types of diets and not wonder what's happening to them. Denial?

That family got back on track and I hope they continue.

Its quite easy. As said, you eat good food and exercise. Its not rocket science. Its just laziness.

And yes, Ive been on medication where I started to gain weight. And the food was changed and the exercise upped pronto!

McCrack

gizmo81 wrote: »

I think this is probably one of the most reprehensible posts I've seen on boards.ie in my short time here and I've seen some sh1te!

People love other people including their offspring for a variety of reasons and lowest on the list is how attractive they are.

Obesity, like it's binary opposite Anorexia is a medical condition caused by a variety of reasons. Thyroid, Common Steroids for Asthma, Borderline Personality Disorder, Diabetes and so on can contribute.

Another factor is stigmatisation which makes the problem repeat in a vicious circle.

It's such a cheap shot, and a reflection on the commentator rather than their target.

I believe to take such a nasty shot at such a vulnerable group, overweight children, the commentator must be lacking any kind of empathy and education.

The only person 'unloveable' is the person who has no love in their heart that they ridicule children and people struggling with a medical condition.

Im with you except for your third paragraph.

Obesity as far as Im concerned is caused by surplus calories. In other words too much food (whether healthy or unhealthy food) going in causing caloric surplus which equals weight gain.

Dtp1979

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wasn't a skinny kid but ate healthy and was active. What was going on there I wonder? Could it perhaps be something not as black and white as "eat better = not tubby"?

You can eat healthy and still put on weight or be in a calorie surplus.

mad muffin

I saw this fat kid walking into a shop the other day as I was walking my dog. He probably was around 11, and so fat he was practically waddling. All I could think is fück his parents :mad:

JayRoc

LincolnHawk wrote: »

The food pyramid doesn't help

The food pyramid, while obviously outdated and incorrect, has nothing to do with it. People who allow their kids to get fat neither know nor care what the current government policy on "healthy eating" is this week

_Kaiser_

To be fair, while the OP may not be the most "diplomatic" he has a valid point... poor diet, lack of exercise and parents who either don't know better/can't be arsed/don't have the time due to full time jobs and commutes are all factors here.

While there are cases where this may be a result of medical issues, I don't buy the PC touchy-feely nonsense about "vulnerable" groups and what not in most of these cases. It's down to attitude and education for the most part.

Zimmerframe

LincolnHawk wrote: »

The food pyramid doesn't help

These ones ?.

Not that one

Im involved in sports coaching with mostly primary school age groups.
Very few "fat kids" in the 4-7 age group where there is 90% participation
where parents/kids try all the team sports/swimming/athletics/dancing/ju jitzu etc.

By the time they are in 5th class (age 10-11) there is probably 50% participation in physical activity and the kids that are not participating appear to be the heavier kids in class.

My only comment is for parents to try to understand an activity that your child could maintain long term (into secondary school) to give them the best chance. Does not matter if its rugby/gaelic/irish dancing/judo as long as its something that encourages physical activity that engages them into secondary school age.

AllForIt

I don't think ppl realize the effects of children being fat from an early age. It's not just a question of being overweight and how that will effect them in their later life, it's the problem that children who are in the developmental growth stage of their lives are clearly not getting the nutrition they need and won't develop as they should. It will effect their brain, their mood, their confidence etc. My sis works with youngsters and she sees the mood swings, the lack of concentration, the tantrums. All a result of being so unhealthy and not getting the nutrition they so critically need as a youngster. Vitamins, minerals, crucial nutrients like that.

In other words it's much much worse for a persons health to be fat from an early age than it is to grow up and start putting on weight in one's twenties/thirties. At least those ppl with have grown properly and what they eat from the point is their own responsibility as a grown adult. But to allow kids junk food on a daily basis which gets them addicted to sweets/chocolate/crisps/sugary-drinks/fatty-foods from an early age is just a recipe for disaster.

Edit: I would also add it's not so much the lack of exercise that is the problem (of course it doesn't help) but it's the sugary/carby tasty foods that one eats daily that a child get's used too and thinks it's 'normal' food. It's no wonder some kids would turn their nose up at eating vegetables when they have been trained to eat such garbage.

RoisinClare6

I was a slim child until I was about 7 I think, was really sick for a month my nana decided to mind me for a while because she felt mam wasn't feeding me enough...turned into a proper little fatty after that..weeks of eating ****e whenever I wanted and adult sized dinners. Every one was saying I was a fine child..thought I was great the eating habits of that summer in my nanas stayed with me for years but now I'm older I know I wasn't a fine child but a fat one.

jimmycrackcorm

I'm watching one of my own kids put on weight every week. Unfortunately, while they are normally very active in sports, a sports related injury necessitating surgery has made them basically immobile. The difference is incredible, it's like watching one of those sped-up nature films. No doubt the OP would be judging myself and mrs corm very harshly as parents.

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

Would any parent reading this thread admit they have an over weight child? Be honest with yourself...

Pedro K

Don't know if it's been mentioned it not, or if indeed it is already in Irish law, (I haven't read the whole thread yet) but if a parent can be criminally charged with neglect as a result of their child being malnourished, then the facility should be there to have them charged with neglect when a child is obese.

Edit: obviously the devil would be in the detail, regarding convictions and what warrants obesity due to neglect or obesity due to injury etc.

A kid used to live on my road who was no more than 8 and had a belly that would have put many a grown man to shame. There was no injury there. That's not the kids fault. He had plates put in front of him and was probably told (as most of us probably were) to leave a clean plate.

riffmongous

I can't wait till the fatties are in the majority and vote accordingly , going to be some salty tears then :pac:

Tellyium

Unsightly:unpleasant to look at; ugly.
"an unsightly rubbish tip".
Anyone else think the op's claim that they're 'not a bad person' means it's ok for them to call someone else's child ugly? Obesity in children has serious implications for their short and long term health and it's a condition that needs to be tackled at a societal level. Seems the op is slightly offended by their appearance and would just rather those kids were kept out of sight. Good for you.

Arcade_Tryer

riffmongous wrote: »

I can't wait till the fatties are in the majority and vote accordingly , going to be some salty tears then :pac:

Won't be for a long time as they don't vote. Most of the obesity epidemic in Ireland is concentrated in economically disadvantaged areas consisting of families with low levels of education. Education is the single most important correlate of good health for both individuals and groups.

tomwaterford

All those people what said they used be out running/cycling etc every evening after school have some serious rose tinted glasses going on

As when i growing up,all i rememeber is rain and long evenings on the couch looking out the window at the rain as there was nothing on tv/no computer games??




Theres more to it than that,maybe its all the crap added to foods nowadays is the issue??

Murrisk

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I'm not a bad person but I look at them and think how could anyone love that?

Wha'?

AllForIt

Pedro K wrote: »

Don't know if it's been mentioned it not, or if indeed it is already in Irish law, (I haven't read the whole thread yet) but if a parent can be criminally charged with neglect as a result of their child being malnourished, then the facility should be there to have them charged with neglect when a child is obese.

Edit: obviously the devil would be in the detail, regarding convictions and what warrants obesity due to neglect or obesity due to injury etc.

A kid used to live on my road who was no more than 8 and had a belly that would have put many a grown man to shame. There was no injury there. That's not the kids fault. He had plates put in front of him and was probably told (as most of us probably were) to leave a clean plate.

I wouldn't be in favour of anything like that because it would be quite hypocritical of the government to take such an action when the government themselves have't taken any action to prevent the situation as it is.

The situation as it is is that junk food is extremely cheap and vegetables are relatively expensive in comparison.

I would suggest that the vat on junk food needs to be raised significantly in the same way vat was raised on tobacco. No more going to the supermarket and buying a own-brand pizza for a euro. A liter of own brand cola for 75 cent. No more buying a pack of 10 chocolate bars for one euro and 50 cent. A limit in supermarkets to the amount of space on the shelves they can give to the sale of cakes/crisps/buns/soft-drinks/sweets/frozen-junk-food etc.

Supermarkets love junk food. They have a very long shelf life because they don't go off and the reason they don't go off is because even bacteria have the sense not to consume them because they are nutritionally useless. Leave a chocolate bar out in the open and come back in a month and it will look just the same, no blue mold.

I can't understand how in a time when so much emphasis is put on education that there is no time in primary/secondary school devoted to nutritional education. Learning how to cook at a young age is just as important to me as any other basic skill one learns when at school.

AllForIt

tomwaterford wrote: »

All those people what said they used be out running/cycling etc every evening after school have some serious rose tinted glasses going on

As when i growing up,all i rememeber is rain and long evenings on the couch looking out the window at the rain as there was nothing on tv/no computer games??

I agree with this point 100%. It's not lack of exercise that is the problem. It's the huge increase of calories that is the problem such that even if increased exercise was taken it wouldn't make much difference to one's weight. Slightly better but wouldn't solve the problem.

Murrisk

Wesser wrote: »

Where I work, the kids queue up in the spar at morning time and lunch time for massive carby baguettes loaded with spicy chicken eaten with crisps and coke.

Yes, this always disturbs me when I see it. No kid needs that amount of calories for lunch, not to mention it's disgusting crap to be eating.

Hot chicken baguettes are such a ridiculous amount of calories, only someone with a very physical job needs that big a lunch.

The Rape of Lucretia

You might find them unsightly OP, and I guess there is now arguing with that, but you would have to admit nonetheless that more fat people do make the world a more jolly place. Which is to the benefit of all of us. The big, happy, joking kids, with even fat girls often being quite witty an funny too, who are happy in their own skin, does bring a positive vibe around them which rubs off on the rest off us and brings a little bit of sunshine to the world. Credit where its due.

diomed

Wesser wrote: »

Where I work, the kids queue up in the spar at morning time and lunch time for massive carby baguettes loaded with spicy chicken eaten with crisps and coke.

I'm an OAP.
We walked or cycled to school, then back home for lunch.
We didn't have money for snacks.
If we got money it was for doing something, like cycling to the shops a mile away for a few stone of potatoes.
One plus is there are no undernourished undersized children now.

Wanderer78

tomwaterford wrote:

Theres more to it than that,maybe its all the crap added to foods nowadays is the issue??

AllForIt wrote:

I agree with this point 100%. It's not lack of exercise that is the problem. It's the huge increase of calories that is the problem such that even if increased exercise was taken it wouldn't make much difference to one's weight. Slightly better but wouldn't solve the problem.

Whist will yea, it's called the 'Free market', since it has the word 'free' in it, it must be good for us!

Nagnata

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

You might find them unsightly OP, and I guess there is now arguing with that, but you would have to admit nonetheless that more fat people do make the world a more jolly place. Which is to the benefit of all of us. The big, happy, joking kids, with even fat girls often being quite witty an funny too, who are happy in their own skin, does bring a positive vibe around them which rubs off on the rest off us and brings a little bit of sunshine to the world. Credit where its due.

What a ridiculous post I know more jolly, funny and witty normal and skinny people then fatties. Lets be honest here If your kids are fat you're probably not fit to be a parent. I know lazy parents don't want to hear that but it's true. Of course it's not the parents fault? it's societies fault or health food is more expensive or other lame excuses.

Mongfinder General

If our government starts taxing cola and chocolate because the fat ****s in this country are too lazy to work off the calories I will seriously go on a rampage. These fat fcuks are clogging up the health service and costing us non fat fcuks money. Why aren't there fat camps? Boot camps don't work because I only ever see gym bunnies using them.

Gbear

Carbs are "bad" because it's easy to eat too much of them.

I'd struggle to eat 2500 calories of steak. I could probably eat a whole loaf of bread though.

It's also what snacks tend to be comprised of, so carb-heavy food tends to lend itself to grazing.

It's purely calories in/calories out but the kind and quality of food will determine the best strategy for doing that.
If you only eat food you cook yourself, don't eat processed food, sweets or fizzy drinks, there's only so much you'll manage to eat and it's unlikely you'll be more than a little overweight.

There's not really any excuse for not being able to do that. People can learn themselves from Youtube, books or the like and it's certainly cheaper than takeaways.
A bit of effort from schools could go a long way to giving the base skills required that would demystify cooking and make it seem less daunting.

McCrack

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I'm watching one of my own kids put on weight every week. Unfortunately, while they are normally very active in sports, a sports related injury necessitating surgery has made them basically immobile. The difference is incredible, it's like watching one of those sped-up nature films. No doubt the OP would be judging myself and mrs corm very harshly as parents.

Listen its not complex.

Adjust calorie intake accordingly.

In other words give your child less food.

Theres lots of information out there, read up. Boards has a nutrition forum.

Teyla Emmagan

You see loads of kids on my local shop every morning buying sausage rolls and other **** processed junk for their breakfasts. It's just mind boggling to me that there are parents that don't make sure their kids have a decent breakfast at home in the mornings and instead give them money to buy unhealthy crap.

I feel very sorry for fat kids but it is 100% their parents' fault. They are setting them up for a life of discomfort and being mocked as well as medical problems, all due to their own laziness or unwillingness to enforce any discipline. It's very hard for a fat kid to get the weight off, they basically have a lifetime of obesity ahead of them.

It's shockingly unfair on the poor kid.

Lady is a tramp

Xander Orange Ewe wrote: »

Would any parent reading this thread admit they have an over weight child? Be honest with yourself...

I remember this woman I used to babysit for used to drop me home, her absolutely drunk, and we'd sit outside my house while she'd bawl for hours in the car about her obese 8 year old child and how she couldn't stop her eating.

I was like, I'm 15. I've spend the night minding your kids and studying for my Junior Cert, it's 3am on a Thursday and I've school soon. I'm very tired. Can I get out of the car now?

Said child (who I did love to bits) ended up with a severe eating disorder, she's all growed up now and hopefully doing well.

At the time though, she was just normal 8 year old chubby. Not actually at all obese I think her mother's distress over her weight probably had a lot more to do with the eating disorder than anything else.

cbyrd

gizmo81 wrote:

Obesity, like it's binary opposite Anorexia is a medical condition caused by a variety of reasons. Thyroid, Common Steroids for Asthma, Borderline Personality Disorder, Diabetes and so on can contribute.

Portion size, handing kids money instead of packed lunch for school, bars cakes sweets chocolate, never saying no cos then they might get mad with you or look disappointed and not be your friend.
Parenting is very difficult, if you do it right. Its not easy to say no and hold fast. Kids are emotionally manipulative head fcuks. Say no and mean it. Don't buy the sweets juice fizzy drinks crisps bars biscuits. Cut the slice of cake small, put their dinner on a side plate cos they are little. Chips and pizza are a treat, take away is for special occasions and get the fook outside and run ya lazy asses.
Modern parenting is giving in to them to make up for being at work 10 hours of the day.
And turn off the tv and let them jump on the furniture. Bring back the good sitting room.
Simple.

myshirt

People are breaking up families and bringing the kids to the other side of the country so they can pursue a relationship with another man/woman.

Personally, I think something like that is completely selfish and quite disgusting, especially when it has this type of impact on the children and affects their health that way. What makes it worse is the same person will try justify it and dress it up as ok and workable. Even further selfish and you then end up with quite poor eating habits.

I love Sean nos

myshirt wrote: »

People are breaking up families and bringing the kids to the other side of the country so they can pursue a relationship with another man/woman.

Is that happening a lot?