Earthlings

end of the road

Synthol wrote: »

Scientific studies show otherwise, you will continue to eat meat and die from heart disease.

nope. they don't show otherwise..

Synthol

end of the road wrote: »

nope. they don't show otherwise..

Doesn't show for the ignorant kind.

PucaMama

Is this still going! Op mind your own business about what other people eat. Some day someone will put you in your place.

Synthol

PucaMama wrote: »

Is this still going! Op mind your own business about what other people eat. Some day someone will put you in your place.

Don't directly support torture and killing of animals and then I will mind my own business!!! We will see about that.

end of the road

Synthol wrote: »

Don't directly support torture and killing of animals and then I will mind my own business!!! We will see about that.

this is a democracy, not isis territory. you cannot bully your views onto people. you definitely can't expect to change minds using such methods, they don't work, animal rights extremists seem to never get this fact.

PucaMama

Synthol wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

Is this still going! Op mind your own business about what other people eat. Some day someone will put you in your place.

Don't directly support torture and killing of animals and then I will mind my own business!!! We will see about that.

I will do whatever I want, and I can guarantee some day you will say something like this to someone face to face after forgetting your not on the internet any more. You will be put in your place. I look forward to each and every time it happens to control freak vegans like yourself.

endacl

Synthol wrote: »

Don't directly support torture and killing of animals and then I will mind my own business!!! We will see about that.

I was thinking about this thread over the last few days. I ate extra animal, especially for you. I normally have a veggie day or two. Skipped it.

Your thread has directly resulted in the torture and death of extra animal. Yummy extra animal.

magentis

endacl wrote: »

I was thinking about this thread over the last few days. I ate extra animal, especially for you. I normally have a veggie day or two. Skipped it.

Your thread has directly resulted in the torture and death of extra animal. Yummy extra animal.

:pac:

Professor Moriarty

endacl wrote: »

I was thinking about this thread over the last few days. I ate extra animal, especially for you. I normally have a veggie day or two. Skipped it.

Your thread has directly resulted in the torture and death of extra animal. Yummy extra animal.

Worms don't count.

Synthol

PucaMama wrote: »

I will do whatever I want, and I can guarantee some day you will say something like this to someone face to face after forgetting your not on the internet any more. You will be put in your place. I look forward to each and every time it happens to control freak vegans like yourself.

Sure you will and I can say it to your face if you want me to. You will punch me in the face like the other internet tough guys here?

Synthol

endacl wrote: »

I was thinking about this thread over the last few days. I ate extra animal, especially for you. I normally have a veggie day or two. Skipped it.

Your thread has directly resulted in the torture and death of extra animal. Yummy extra animal.

And increased your risk of heart disease by a large percentage, good job.

eviltwin

Synthol wrote: »

Don't directly support torture and killing of animals and then I will mind my own business!!! We will see about that.

Ffs leave her and every other meat eater alone.

Synthol

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Worms don't count.

Worms are not as sentient as animals such as horses or swine.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Synthol wrote: »

And increased your risk of heart disease by a large percentage, good job.

Oh for goodness sake. Give it a rest. Not every meat eater dies young and not every vegan enjoys a long healthy life either. You have put your cause back years with this thread. Assuming you are serious of course.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Synthol wrote: »

And increased your risk of heart disease by a large percentage, good job.

Oh for goodness sake. Give it a rest. Not every meat eater dies young and not every vegan enjoys a long healthy life either. You have put your cause back years with this thread. Assuming you are serious of course.

end of the road

Synthol wrote: »

And increased your risk of heart disease by a large percentage, good job.

nope. this has been debunked.

Synthol

end of the road wrote: »

nope. this has been debunked.

Oh really? A reliable source of proof please.

DoozerT6

For God's sake guys just stop engaging with him/her.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Synthol wrote: »

Worms are not as sentient as animals such as horses or swine.

Hogwash. As someone who has spent his life studying and researching plants and animals, I would firstly draw your attention to what sentience is. It's the capacity to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively. Only higher older animals have come even close to this. Cows, sheep, and pigs cannot categorize nor create concepts.
By your definition of a sentient organism, plants too are sentient, because when a plant is wounded, it immediately kicks into protection mode. It releases a cocktail of chemicals, which have been proven to even induce neighbouring plants to pre-emptively step up their own chemical defences. Animals use an electrical impulse nervous system while plants use a chemically signalled one.

Synthol

Lucca Ripe Rail wrote: »

Hogwash. As someone who has spent his life studying and researching plants and animals, I would firstly draw your attention to what sentience is. It's the capacity to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively. Only higher older animals have come even close to this. Cows, sheep, and pigs cannot categorize nor create concepts.
By your definition of a sentient organism, plants too are sentient, because when a plant is wounded, it immediately kicks into protection mode. It releases a cocktail of chemicals, which have been proven to even induce neighbouring plants to pre-emptively step up their own chemical defences. Animals use an electrical impulse nervous system while plants use a chemically signalled one.

I am sorry but you are wrong..

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Synthol wrote: »

I am sorry but you are wrong..

Ah here! You're just taking the mick.

I'm out. Feeding time is over.

DontThankMe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_h5L-kEWu8

end of the road

Synthol wrote: »

I am sorry but you are wrong..

i'm not sorry but no he isn't.

PucaMama

Synthol wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

I will do whatever I want, and I can guarantee some day you will say something like this to someone face to face after forgetting your not on the internet any more. You will be put in your place. I look forward to each and every time it happens to control freak vegans like yourself.

Sure you will and I can say it to your face if you want me to. You will punch me in the face like the other internet tough guys here?

Or maybe I'll just feed you to my meat loving dogs 😂 if there's enough muscle left on you that is. I have walked up and confronted people for talking rubbish online. I remind people the offline world still exists. You want to say it go ahead. Someone will correct you some day.

Mod: Banned

mad muffin

DoozerT6 wrote: »

For God's sake guys just stop engaging with him/her.

I think it prefers to be referred to as Zer.

Synthol

DontThankMe wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_h5L-kEWu8

Omg this video changed my life, I am no longer vegan because of this great amazingly scientific video .Oh man that president of American College of Cardiology doesn't know what he's talking about and this guy on YouTube showed me the light with amazing reliable sources of proof. Thank you sir for showing me the light. The president of American College of Cardiology was so wrong, I cannot believe that I trusted him.

Synthol

PucaMama wrote: »

Or maybe I'll just feed you to my meat loving dogs 😂 if there's enough muscle left on you that is. I have walked up and confronted people for talking rubbish online. I remind people the offline world still exists. You want to say it go ahead. Someone will correct you some day.

Are you threatening me?

DontThankMe

Synthol wrote: »

Omg this video changed my life, I am no longer vegan because of this great amazingly scientific video .Oh man that president of American College of Cardiology doesn't know what he's talking about and this guy on YouTube showed me the light with amazing reliable sources of proof. Thank you sir for showing me the light. The president of American College of Cardiology was so wrong, I cannot believe that I trusted him.

Your welcome man glad to see that you have finally seen the light!

PucaMama

Synthol wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

Or maybe I'll just feed you to my meat loving dogs 😂 if there's enough muscle left on you that is. I have walked up and confronted people for talking rubbish online. I remind people the offline world still exists. You want to say it go ahead. Someone will correct you some day.

Are you threatening me?

Don't act the idiot towards others and then be shocked when people put you back in your box.

Synthol

PucaMama wrote: »

Don't act the idiot towards others and then be shocked when people put you back in your box.

Put me back in my box, go on.

PucaMama

Synthol wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

Don't act the idiot towards others and then be shocked when people put you back in your box.

Put me back in my box, go on.

Your like the snappy little chihuahua, cowering in the back of its crate, still snarling away

Synthol

PucaMama wrote: »

Your like the snappy little chihuahua, cowering in the back of its crate, still snarling away

So you agree that by eating meat you directly support the suffering and death of animals? And increase your risk of heart disease?

end of the road

Synthol wrote: »

So you agree that by eating meat you directly support the suffering and death of animals? And increase your risk of heart disease?

nope. it's nonsense.

PucaMama

Synthol wrote: »

PucaMama wrote: »

Your like the snappy little chihuahua, cowering in the back of its crate, still snarling away

So you agree that by eating meat you directly support the suffering and death of animals? And increase your risk of heart disease?

Yap yap yap yap yap

I eat meat, and lots of it because I'm low carb. Deal with it.

archer22

Lucca Ripe Rail wrote: »

Hogwash. As someone who has spent his life studying and researching plants and animals, I would firstly draw your attention to what sentience is. It's the capacity to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively. Only higher older animals have come even close to this. Cows, sheep, and pigs cannot categorize nor create concepts.
By your definition of a sentient organism, plants too are sentient, because when a plant is wounded, it immediately kicks into protection mode. It releases a cocktail of chemicals, which have been proven to even induce neighbouring plants to pre-emptively step up their own chemical defences. Animals use an electrical impulse nervous system while plants use a chemically signalled one.

Thats the greatest load of made up BS I have ever read :rolleyes:

Synthol

PucaMama wrote: »

Yap yap yap yap yap

I eat meat, and lots of it because I'm low carb. Deal with it.

You're low carb? Lol what? You think eating meat is healthier than eating carbs?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

archer22 wrote: »

Thats the greatest load of made up BS I have ever read :rolleyes:

Then you need to start reading more. Factual. Long known and long studied. Don't show your ignorance by dismissing something you know nothing about. We were studying all this back in the 70s. Do some research on plant chemical signalling.

archer22

Lucca Ripe Rail wrote: »

Then you need to start reading more. Factual. Long known and long studied. Don't show your ignorance by dismissing something you know nothing about. We were studying all this back in the 70s. Do some research on plant chemical signalling.

You are talking through your underpants...and you know it.That post was just gibberish.

Peregrine

Synthol banned for trolling (not just this thread) and goading. PucaMama banned for threatening physical violence. Thread reopened. Any more of that sort of carry on and there will be similar bans.

Tar.Aldarion

Of course animals have consciousness/sentience, people think they are walking rocks is it? This was formalised by the worlds top neuroscientists in 2012 by the Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness.

The absence of a neocortex does not appear to preclude an organism from experiencing affective states. Convergent evidence indicates that non-human animals have the neuroanatomical, neurochemical, and neurophysiological substrates of conscious states along with the capacity to exhibit intentional behaviors. Consequently, the weight of evidence indicates that humans are not unique in possessing the neurological substrates that generate consciousness. Non-human animals, including all mammals and birds, and many other creatures, including octopuses, also possess these neurological substrates.