Soccer Forum Feedback 2017

bucketybuck

There is a place for match threads, but what needs to be understood is that match threads are absolutely useless for discussion, and as such it doesn't make any sense telling posters that any discussion should be there and not the super threads.

Fast moving low content threads choc full of trolls and the most blatant of wind up merchants, do you really think anybody with half a brain is interested in discussing an issue in there?

Other than that my feedback is simple, there is a blatant and obvious troll that has been allowed to get away with his shtick for far too long. You all know who it is, don't pretend you don't know what is happening, stop trying to deflect the issue and ban the ****ing troll already.

Jayop

Me?

Andersonisgod

bucketybuck wrote: »

There is a place for match threads, but what needs to be understood is that match threads are absolutely useless for discussion, and as such it doesn't make any sense telling posters that any discussion should be there and not the super threads.

Fast moving low content threads choc full of trolls and the most blatant of wind up merchants, do you really think anybody with half a brain is interested in discussing an issue in there?

Other than that my feedback is simple, there is a blatant and obvious troll that has been allowed to get away with his shtick for far too long. You all know who it is, don't pretend you don't know what is happening, stop trying to deflect the issue and ban the ****ing troll already.

Irony. The start of this thread literally says not to post anything against the charter. This blatantly and brazenly defies that but nothing is done about it. This isn't even the most blatant example of what I'm talking about.

A group of posters don't like my football opinions so they accuse me of trolling, they personally attack me, they speak about me in their club's superthread (which I don't respond to, out of respect for the mods), they follow my every post and do their best to draw me out into a non topic argument so that then they can say "oh look...he's at it again." They create a set response that they post repeatedly, rather than just ignoring me and then they report my posts when I respond to this set post. If they don't like me, that's fine. If they don't want to talk about football with me that's fine too because outside of this thread I will only discuss football. This group of posters behave like children throwing their dummy out of the pram when they don't get their way.

Tom.D.BJJ

Per feedback on http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057759905

In terms of banning links to the Sun newspaper on the Soccer forum
Would it be possible?
What kind of support would be needed from the forum

Thanks

gandalf

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

Per feedback on http://m.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057759905

In terms of banning links to the Sun newspaper on the Soccer forum
Would it be possible?
What kind of support would be needed from the forum

Thanks

I'm not sure it would feasible on a single forum basis but tbh I use it as a barometer on whether to take someone seriously or not. If someone posts a link to an article in that rag their opinion is automatically discounted

Jayop

+1 for banning the sun.

5starpool

I don't think banning links to it is the answer. It'll result in cards and bans that are spurious really. It is a total rag that I'd never dream of posting links to, but banning it makes more work for mods, and will result in silly cards.

GavRedKing

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

Per feedback on http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057759905

In terms of banning links to the Sun newspaper on the Soccer forum
Would it be possible?
What kind of support would be needed from the forum

Thanks

I think its a noble idea but it would be very self policing, we couldnt stop links to the Sun being posted, same way we cant stop any porn or such posted.

I do think do that by and large, you'll find very few links to the Sun in the forum.

All we could do is maybe snip the link and ask for a non-scummy link to the same story if possible.

Jayop

5starpool wrote: »

I don't think banning links to it is the answer. It'll result in cards and bans that are spurious really. It is a total rag that I'd never dream of posting links to, but banning it makes more work for mods, and will result in silly cards.

A soft ban would be OK. Just have it in the charter and allow posters to remind anyone who posts in that it's not allowed.

Tbh how often does it ever get linked anyway? I seen it today for the first time in forever.

Lord TSC

On superthreads

Someone earlier said that it shouldn't be allowed to talk about matches in superthreads because it's one step removed from team specific threads, etc. Personally, after a long week, sometimes I don't want to have to deal with "dissenting opinion" which often boils down to people trying to get banter in. Sometimes, I just want to have a casual discussion with fellow fans and relax. Football shouldn't be stressful, and sometimes that means avoiding people that deliberately want to make it stressful for you. So I'm well on board the idea to remove that specific rule, and let superthreads be for people who just want to talk with fellow fans, and match threads be for people who want to discuss things with neutrals, etc.

On The Sun

I've argued very similar over on Reddit, and would happily see the paper banned from the forum. On the other hand, I don't know if I ever see anyone take their links seriously, and usually are met with utter disdain. But certainly I think anything to get them less clicks is good.

On trolling

Giving my own personal stance on this. I'll stress this, this is not me speaking for all mods, just for myself.

I try not to card people for getting lured in by trolls. When I do, I try to be as open to giving people chances to get their cards rescinded (seriously, the amount of people who either get super angry or don't ask for a relenting of punishments astounds me; if someone civlilly approaches me with a calm defence of themselves, provided it's not a repeat offence, I'll try to give them a chance...). There's some issues where people have received warnings in the past and ignored them, and when they do, then I don't have much sympathy for them. There's cases of "I know I'll get carded for this but..." which, against , no sympathy tree. You know the rules, you have the option to ignore but choose to engage knowing you'll get in trouble.

Believe me, there's one or two posters I'd happily see nuked. When I see some posters with 20+ cards over the years, I do think their access should be revoked. A lot of times though, people make things harder themselves by, rather than reporting or letting others report and letting mods deal with it, jump in and try getting personal. And suddenly, the mods have a bigger mess on hand.

Can't only say this so often. Report and ignore. You do not have to engage with people you think are trolls. I presume everyone here is of an age they can see the ignore function. You do not have to engage and you do not have to break the rules of the charter either. Thigss will be far easier for the mods to deal with if you don't get involved in the **** throwing, and if everyone used the ignore function, I garuntee that long term problems posters would disappear a million times quicker...

Mickeroo

If someone posts a link from the sun then that's their own business as far as I'm concerned. If it's done with the intention to wind up Liverpool fans or whatever then that's already covered under the rules on trolling.

5starpool

Lord TSC wrote: »

On superthreads

Someone earlier said that it shouldn't be allowed to talk about matches in superthreads because it's one step removed from team specific threads, etc. Personally, after a long week, sometimes I don't want to have to deal with "dissenting opinion" which often boils down to people trying to get banter in. Sometimes, I just want to have a casual discussion with fellow fans and relax. Football shouldn't be stressful, and sometimes that means avoiding people that deliberately want to make it stressful for you. So I'm well on board the idea to remove that specific rule, and let superthreads be for people who just want to talk with fellow fans, and match threads be for people who want to discuss things with neutrals, etc.

What do you think of 'neutrals' posting in the superthread in the same manner they would in the match thread? Exact same standards of rules applies? What if several superthread people essentially gang up on said person? Same as would happen in a match thread? If it is not the exact same approach (even allowing that things can and never will be fully consistent) then it is a farcical system.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch

just delete any references to the rag that are posted, if reported, leave a note to say either do nothing or provide a link to a different source, preferably not sportsjoe or sportsbible type bullshít either.

Lukker-

Tbh the whole United/Liverpool rivalry makes the forum unbearable at times. Threads with nothing to do with either team often get derailed by fans sniping each other. I'd like to see 2 week bans instantly for that craic.

Other than that I think the modding is a bit heavy handed (I know I know you can't win)

I don't really mind fans having a go at each other, as long as it's relevant to the thread.

Turtyturd

Even the feedback thread getting hijacked :rolleyes:

Others have said it but the decision to sit back and allow certain trolling/threads to be hijacked needs to be addressed. When it was confined to the La Liga thread it was grand but as mods allowed it it has spread out to the stage where every match thread ends up with the poster in question stringing along the three or four posters who have to comment on everything he posts.


Moderation seems to be an issue site wide and undoubtedly is here. There's too many 'missed' posts, and even the ones that are noticed have very different outcomes depending on who the mod is and who the poster in question is.

HalloweenJack

I would also be favour of loosening up the "no backseat modding" rule. It helps to draw attention to the poster doing the trolling and may make other people think twice about responding as it's a more visual and instant method of pointing out trolls instead of using the report post function which takes longer to get resolved.

Also, the "playing the victim" role should be examined. Too many posters trolling subtly throw their hands up in faux outrage when they get called on it. I remember a Liverpool fan claiming that their OTT criticism of Man U after a defeat was completely justified because Liverpool hadn't played in the match so they were completely neutral when it came to their opinion about the match. :rolleyes:

Lord TSC

HalloweenJack wrote: »

I would also be favour of loosening up the "no backseat modding" rule. It helps to draw attention to the poster doing the trolling and may make other people think twice about responding as it's a more visual and instant method of pointing out trolls instead of using the report post function which takes longer to get resolved.

On the other hand, there's been posts in here already about opposition fans trying to have genuine discussions in superthreads and getting attacking for it, and not being invited into conversations. Good luck with that not getting worse if you do away with the rule that actually hasn't potential to help stop that issue....

Buford T. Justice XIX

Lord TSC wrote: »

On superthreads

Someone earlier said that it shouldn't be allowed to talk about matches in superthreads because it's one step removed from team specific threads, etc. Personally, after a long week, sometimes I don't want to have to deal with "dissenting opinion" which often boils down to people trying to get banter in. Sometimes, I just want to have a casual discussion with fellow fans and relax. Football shouldn't be stressful, and sometimes that means avoiding people that deliberately want to make it stressful for you. So I'm well on board the idea to remove that specific rule, and let superthreads be for people who just want to talk with fellow fans, and match threads be for people who want to discuss things with neutrals, etc.

On The Sun

I've argued very similar over on Reddit, and would happily see the paper banned from the forum. On the other hand, I don't know if I ever see anyone take their links seriously, and usually are met with utter disdain. But certainly I think anything to get them less clicks is good.

On trolling

Giving my own personal stance on this. I'll stress this, this is not me speaking for all mods, just for myself.

I try not to card people for getting lured in by trolls. When I do, I try to be as open to giving people chances to get their cards rescinded (seriously, the amount of people who either get super angry or don't ask for a relenting of punishments astounds me; if someone civlilly approaches me with a calm defence of themselves, provided it's not a repeat offence, I'll try to give them a chance...). There's some issues where people have received warnings in the past and ignored them, and when they do, then I don't have much sympathy for them. There's cases of "I know I'll get carded for this but..." which, against , no sympathy tree. You know the rules, you have the option to ignore but choose to engage knowing you'll get in trouble.

Believe me, there's one or two posters I'd happily see nuked. When I see some posters with 20+ cards over the years, I do think their access should be revoked. A lot of times though, people make things harder themselves by, rather than reporting or letting others report and letting mods deal with it, jump in and try getting personal. And suddenly, the mods have a bigger mess on hand.

Can't only say this so often. Report and ignore. You do not have to engage with people you think are trolls. I presume everyone here is of an age they can see the ignore function. You do not have to engage and you do not have to break the rules of the charter either. Thigss will be far easier for the mods to deal with if you don't get involved in the **** throwing, and if everyone used the ignore function, I garuntee that long term problems posters would disappear a million times quicker...

+1 on all the above.

On discussion on team threads v match threads, I now avoid match threads like the plague as soon as the game starts. As soon as a goal is conceded, there is an influx of trolls looking for a snack. I imagine it's not confined to the Liverpool threads either. Seeing as extremes of trolling is better tolerated in match threads, I say let them be and let those who wish to discuss the match without having a constant barrage of WUMming discuss in some peace on the superthreads.

Like the Humour thread, it's a great outlet and distraction for those inclined in that direction.

dfx-

Rod Munch wrote: »

That's the thing though, they don't go into the superthread (I can only speak for the United one with any certainty it has to be said) because they know that what they will get away with in a match thread wouldn't be gotten away with in a superthread because it is trolling.

The match threads are a catch all where imo alot more leeway is given than in the superthreads.

It leads to the question that why could someone post something in a match thread and get away with it but if they posted it in a superthread they may face a card?

Surely trolling is trolling, no matter where it's posted?

Look, in the main I don't have an issue with the forum or the moderation of it. I have posters on ignore that are ignore worthy, there are posters who are as transparent as a glass of water and I pass no remarks on them, I'm a grown man and don't get my panties in a bunch about the internet but my 2c is that banning match chat from the superthreads would be a bad idea.

Equally fair criticism is fair criticism. People are a lot more sensitive to their club being criticised by rival fans in their Superthread, even when there is no charter breach. Match discussion in a Superthread means everyone can post there and all the issues that arise from that as 5starpool talks about in the quote below.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

What's the point of being on a shared football forum at all like if you can't take a little heat in a match thread if your team loses? The match threads keep all the nonsense of a match in one place. The match will always get discussed after the fact in a review / analysis type way in the superthreads anyway.

Some posters want to do all their posting in the superthreads because what they really want is a club specific forum. Neutral ground match threads should be a key feature or point of appeal of the forum, not a negative

5starpool wrote: »

If match threads and superthreads can be used for the same match discussions, then the same nodding rules need to be applied. If someone can post 'lol, team x are useless, this is hilarious' in a match thread, they have to be allowed to do the same in a superthread where match discussion is happening. Schadenfreude is a large part of being a football fan, and while ideally everyone would debate as if they were wearing a top hat and monocle, we all know this doesn't happen.

I think my point I that, if some fans are using a superthread as match thread, there need be less defensive behaviour of 'territory', and acceptance that by using superthreads more for match talk, you are encouraging behaviour in the superthreads that prompted people to retreat there from match threads, and if people follow the bulk of the chat, they shouldn't be punished if they wouldn't be for saying something in a match thread.

I'm not a big believer in modding where users self police essentially, so people have to take responsibility for their own posts, but any intervention by mods should be consistent across the forum, not differing depending one what thread it was in. Any specific rules in the charter relating to different types of threads should be removed in my view. The same rules should apply everywhere.

Personally, I tend to strongly agree with lots of the above quotes. Particularly 5starpool's second paragraph.

Cantona's Collars

Regarding The Sun. I've posted a papers roundup every so often and included their stories but won't post links to their site.I haven't heard of anybody using them as a means to troll Liverpool fans.
Maybe mention "The Sun says X club is signing Y player" etc. but don't post a link,that'll be enough.
Lately some people have gotten very precious about the media reporting on stories and forget the threads are based on chat and rumours. We all know it's 99% guesswork and titbits of info but it promotes debate and without that this place would be very quiet indeed.

Andersonisgod

Turtyturd wrote: »

Even the feedback thread getting hijacked :rolleyes:

Others have said it but the decision to sit back and allow certain trolling/threads to be hijacked needs to be addressed. When it was confined to the La Liga thread it was grand but as mods allowed it it has spread out to the stage where every match thread ends up with the poster in question stringing along the three or four posters who have to comment on everything he posts.


Moderation seems to be an issue site wide and undoubtedly is here. There's too many 'missed' posts, and even the ones that are noticed have very different outcomes depending on who the mod is and who the poster in question is.

Hijacked....geez, give me a break. How about poster who you don't like is posting feedback from his perspective on the feedback thread.

Beasty

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Hijacked....geez, give me a break. How about poster who you don't like is posting feedback from his perspective on the feedback thread.

If you want a break, stop acting the maggot.

Everyone - if you have a problem with a particular post or poster - report it. Not everything is followed up because not everything warrants it.

Any questions - PM me - do not continue this part of the "discussion" here

Thanks

Not much positive said here but the Superthreads seem to be much more engaging and some good posters within. And not all from the same clubs, I have noted alot more supporters of different clubs post in Utd thread for arguments sake with only minor issues. Vice versa with the Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton and dare I say Liverpool thread for example
The Superthreads are not as tribal as some people seem to think they are.
Been some good discussion had and some good laughs to boot, it's just a game of footie at the end of the day!

adox

Posters really earn their stripes as such so I always look at the username of a poster if they are posting in a super thread of a team they dont support.

I`m all for a bit of banter and expect it when your team isnt doing well but to be honest there are certain usernames that you look for and you know they have never engaged in any meaningful discussion and so try to avoid them.

I actually enjoy posters who support other teams coming into the Utd super thread and giving their opinions. Its good to get an outside perspective from what can be a bit of a fish bowl at times.

Having said that, the Utd super thread is in a pretty healthy state. Its far from a love in and there are plenty of differing opinions on all aspects of the club which can only be healthy. Id guess its a pretty easy thread to moderate.

Sheepy99

This is more a site-wide suggestion, because you wouldn't confine it just to soccer.
If you had a search bar at the top of a thread, and when you enter a word or term, say "purplemonkeydishwasher", then all the posts containing that term are temporarily removed from the user's view.

The logic behind it is that you always have people whinging saying "oh this is another liverpool and united discussion, thread derailed" or some other shít to that tune, when it could be a thread about anything.
That's just one example, maybe it turns into a ronaldo and messi debate.

It doesn't bother me in the slightest(not hard to scroll past said posts), but I think it'd be beneficial for others who want to control the ability to just have certain posts removed from plain sight, without the posts actually being removed from the site entirely.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch

I think the first person to mention Liverpool or United in a thread that is not about either team should be banned for a week.

It's tedious nonsense, dick measuring.

Jayop

Almost as tedious as the complaining about it even when it's not happening.

eagle eye

The United/Liverpool thing is so annoying. I'd agree with the suggestion that the first one who brings it up outside of threads involving both teams should get a ban.

Another forum I frequent has an ignore thread feature. I don't know if this is available on boards but if it is then it would be a great tool to help those who are liable to be banned as they could just switch on ignore on threads which might cause them problems and it also helps the mods because there is no excuse if you end up in one of those threads.

I think it's fine to discuss the match or the performances by your own players in a superthread but I don't think lol'ing about the other team or any of their players should be allowed.

Jayop

I do have to laugh. The other day on the transfer thread there was a little comparison talk of players from the two clubs, maybe 3 posts. What followed was about 20 posts crying about united Liverpool crap taking over the thread. It wasn't. What took over the thread was a complete over reaction from a few criers.

Unearthly

zerks wrote: »

Lately some people have gotten very precious about the media reporting on stories and forget the threads are based on chat and rumours. We all know it's 99% guesswork and titbits of info but it promotes debate and without that this place would be very quiet indeed.

I think this is kind of important. It's a pet hate of mine when people post stuff like 'looks like such and such is signing' without saying their source. Or backing it up with IndyKaila and the Daily Express.

There are plenty of legit journalists out there to create discussion

LiamoSail

Unearthly wrote: »

I think this is kind of important. It's a pet hate of mine when people post stuff like 'looks like such and such is signing' without saying their source. Or backing it up with IndyKaila and the Daily Express.

There are plenty of legit journalists out there to create discussion

I don't think that's entirely fair. Myself for example, I have no idea which journalists are well regarded and which aren't because I simply don't follow it to that extent.

Obviously not being an idiot or a nazi, I wouldn't link to either the Sun or Daily Mail, outwith that however you can't expect every Joe Soap to follow football to the extent they have a comprehensive knowledge of not only the game, but associated journalists too

SlickRic

I'm not going to pretend I'm the most active mod. I'm not. I commend those who can put the time in to make a far bigger contribution to making this place work than I do.

I say this almost every year...in an ideal world, all you'd need is the 'don't be a díck' rule. It's amazing how only a certain few have a REAL problem with mods. I'm not talking helpful suggestions, which most will do in this Feedback thread. I'm talking where people really don't like the modding.

As a general rule (not always the case, but usually), if you find yourself being carded or asked to alter your behaviour, you're probably being difficult, so front up and just stop. A mod is doing it voluntarily. What sort of insane person wants to give themselves more work, that they're doing for no money? They won't mod unless they feel they need to.

That's not to say mods don't get it wrong, before I get vitriol back. They do. But the vast majority of cases are justified.

So I'll repeat my annual plea to us all - let's all stop being dícks.

Jayop

Yeah I think all bar one card I've got in this forum has been justified. A little harsh at times (Lord TSC I'm looking at you ) but I broke the rules and accept it. At times there could be more moderation so anyone asking for that should be able to take a card they get when justified on the chin.

In fighting within the the LFC thread is probably the biggest problem I've seen in over the past year.

99.99% of the posters dont want to read it. It has completed destroyed the thread at times. No idea why it can't be going to PM at least.

Any chance the mods can take a look? I'd imagine it's a pain in the neck for them too as they've given a few in thread warnings already over the season.

Buford T. Justice XIX

RoboKlopp wrote: »

In fighting within the the LFC thread is probably the biggest problem I've seen in over the past year.

99.99% of the posters dont want to read it. It has completed destroyed the thread at times. No idea why it can't be going to PM at least.

Any chance the mods can take a look? I'd imagine it's a pain in the neck for them too as they've given a few in thread warnings already over the season.

Those posters are posting long enough to use a bit of cop on and put the other side on ignore if they are getting that annoyed about it.

It certainly makes the thread much more readable if you're only getting their posts second hand rather than new and shiny.

Harry Palmr

I recommend getting a two week ban every summer. It clears the system.

dfx-

RoboKlopp wrote: »

In fighting within the the LFC thread is probably the biggest problem I've seen in over the past year.

99.99% of the posters dont want to read it. It has completed destroyed the thread at times. No idea why it can't be going to PM at least.

Any chance the mods can take a look? I'd imagine it's a pain in the neck for them too as they've given a few in thread warnings already over the season.

As someone who has issued some of those warnings and had to read the stuff to clean up the thread to spare others reading it, I can attest it can be a pain in the neck.

It is better recently I think - to everyone's credit - but it rears its head every so often. Bizarrely, it's often at its worst when Liverpool win when a certain player or two contributes more than another.

Harry Palmr

dfx- wrote: »

It is better recently I think - to everyone's credit - but it rears its head every so often. Bizarrely, it's often at its worst when Liverpool win when a certain player or two contributes more than another.

Worst winningist fans in the world without doubt.

Beasty

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Worst winningist fans in the world without doubt.

Can't ignore Arsenal on this one:pac:

I had to step into threads of both clubs during the season. We all know people can get very passionate about issues, and that in itself is not a problem. However it is a problem when it turns almost to antagonism with unnecessarily aggressive posts. What people need to understand is it's absolutely fine to have differing opinions be it on Klopp, Wenger or who to buy/sell etc. - if someone does not like that view they can express their own and move on without escalating it.

Jayop

Now it looks like Rooney is going us united fans will have to find something else to argue with each other about.


Oh, a proper suggestion here too. Would it be possible to have more original thread titles than the ones we've had? Let the people who post in the threads decide on the next one each time? We could have some fun with it.

GavRedKing

Jayop wrote: »

Now it looks like Rooney is going us united fans will have to find something else to argue with each other about.


Oh, a proper suggestion here too. Would it be possible to have more original thread titles than the ones we've had? Let the people who post in the threads decide on the next one each time? We could have some fun with it.

The superthreads?

Would that not be pointless, it could also lead to the more casual users shuffling around the forum looking for their teams thread if one is called the De Gea appreciation society 2017/18, for example, and they could miss it, if theyre not subscribed to the thread..

Jayop

GavRedKing wrote: »

The superthreads?

Would that not be pointless, it could also lead to the more casual users shuffling around the forum looking for their teams thread if one is called the De Gea appreciation society 2017/18, for example, and they could miss it, if theyre not subscribed to the thread..

No you'd still have something like...

"Manchester United Superthread - Luk who's talking 2017 20-18"

Crappy example but you get the picture.

Omackeral

Anyone who types boom! when a goal goes in should be given a 2 week ban.

Zaph

Jayop wrote: »

No you'd still have something like...

"Manchester United Superthread - Luk who's talking 2017 20-18"

Crappy example but you get the picture.

There is a maximum character limit for thread titles, I can't remember exactly what it is, but the need to have the first part of the title like you have above would eat into it and in some cases seriously reduce the number of characters available for something witty.

Jayop

Zaph wrote: »

Jayop wrote: »

No you'd still have something like...

"Manchester United Superthread - Luk who's talking 2017 20-18"

Crappy example but you get the picture.

There is a maximum character limit for thread titles, I can't remember exactly what it is, but the need to have the first part of the title like you have above would eat into it and in some cases seriously reduce the number of characters available for something witty.

Not a huge problem is it? Have the limit known before suggestions are made. You could easily have the names of the clubs shortened too if it was a very tight thing.

"man utd"
"man city"

I don't think they'd be any longer than the current titles.

bucketybuck

Jayop wrote: »

Not a huge problem is it? Have the limit known before suggestions are made. You could easily have the names of the clubs shortened too if it was a very tight thing.

"man utd"
"man city"

I don't think they'd be any longer than the current titles.

And what about the whole "Mod note post 1552" thing, which would just negate any 'amusing' titles anyway?

The thread titles are fine tbh.

niallo27

As others have pointed out I think the overreaction about trolling in match threads is actually a bigger issue than the trolling itself.

HONKEY TONK

Why do we need match threads?

Just let people talk about the game in their own team threads. Or set up a banter thread to cover all trolling

Panthro

I like the idea of match threads myself.
There's always going to be someone in on a wind up, ya can either engage or ignore/report.

Is there a no talking about match's in the super thread while the games on?
I'd probably drop that one