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Kill your Babies - Gamecube Edition

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    I explained my stance.
    I genuinely think Sunshine is one of the WORST of the Core Mario Games (alongside the OG 2).
    But given the quality of Mario 64 and Galaxy at their respective times, saying All 3D Mario Games are bad is not exactly setting the thread alight with discourse, it just makes you look like you're looking for a reaction.
    You got the reaction you wanted.
    You do you.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,458 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Folks, folks: keep it civil please :)

    Everyone knows the main purpose of these threads is to anger Retr0, and I think he'll be the first to admit it :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Animal Crossing
    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
    Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    F-zero GX
    Ikaruga
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Luigi's Mansion
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
    Mario Kart Double Dash
    Mario Party (series)
    Mario Power Tennis
    Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Pac Man vs.
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Resident Evil Zero
    Soul Calibur 2
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader
    Starfox Adventures
    Super Mario Strikers
    Super Mario Sunshine
    Super Monkey Ball (series)
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    I found Luigis Mansion novel in trying to carve out it's own new IP for Luigi, but ultimately it just made me wish I was playing another, better game.
    It was not terrible, but it was repetitive in its Ghost catching mechanics (hold back) and tbh I couldn't 100% it cause there was some room I couldn't get into and I didn't have the internet then to google it.... and I didn't care enough to ask my sister to print off how to do it, which says a lot

    Also: Retro, I combined Pikmin 1 & 2 and Metroid 1 & 2, cause you had done that with other games, and thats how it was in the other threads, hope that makes sense


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I kept them separate as I felt they could stand on their own. Also it was far easier to compile 40 games for the game cube unlike the mega drive one which is why a lot were combined there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Animal Crossing
    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
    Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    F-zero GX
    Ikaruga
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Luigi's Mansion
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
    Mario Kart Double Dash
    Mario Party (series)
    Mario Power Tennis
    Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Pac Man vs.
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Resident Evil Zero
    Soul Calibur 2
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader
    Starfox Adventures
    Super Mario Strikers
    Super Mario Sunshine
    Super Monkey Ball (series)
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)
    Kill: Animal Crossing

    It's a good game.
    Well, kinda.
    It's not really a game. More like a life simulator.
    The shítty part of life, where you owe money & have to do menial tasks to survive, and buy more crap you don't need.
    And it never ends.

    Also it's better to play on DS.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,605 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Folks, folks: keep it civil please :)

    Everyone knows the main purpose of these threads is to anger Retr0, and I think he'll be the first to admit it :pac:

    Pity every console doesn't host Gunstar Heroes, so I can stab at it's heart in front of him! Fire Warrior FTW!!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,353 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Animal Crossing
    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
    Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    F-zero GX
    Ikaruga
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Luigi's Mansion
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
    Mario Kart Double Dash
    Mario Party (series)
    Mario Power Tennis
    Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Pac Man vs.
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Resident Evil Zero
    Soul Calibur 2
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader
    Starfox Adventures
    Super Mario Strikers
    Super Mario Sunshine
    Super Monkey Ball (series)
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    Super Monkey Ball. I just didn't have the reflexes/patience to enjoy it, I'd be sweating after twenty minutes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭SeantheMan


    Animal Crossing
    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
    Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    F-zero GX
    Ikaruga
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Luigi's Mansion
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
    Mario Kart Double Dash
    Mario Party (series)
    Mario Power Tennis
    Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Pac Man vs.
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Resident Evil Zero
    Soul Calibur 2
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader
    Starfox Adventures
    Super Mario Strikers
    Super Mario Sunshine
    Super Monkey Ball (series)
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)



    You had your time PacMan, and it was back in the 80s arcade machines, stop trying to get onto consoles. You are dead now. Stay that way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,627 ✭✭✭tedpan


    What's Luigi's mansion without wave race blue storm? I had the Japanese GameCube when they were the only 2 games available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
    Mario Party (series)
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Soul Calibur 2
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader
    Starfox Adventures
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    Goodbye Mario Party, which somehow seemed to keep getting worse with every iteration rather than better...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,295 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
    Mario Party (series)
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Soul Calibur 2
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader
    Starfox Adventures
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    Cya Donkey Kong, hate these gimmicky games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭jcd5971


    Baten Kaitos Chibi Robo Donkey Kong Jungle Beat Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance Killer 7 Kirby Air Ride Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour Mario Party (series) Metroid Prime 2 Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Pikmin 1 Pikmin 2 Resident Evil 4 Resident Evil REmake Soul Calibur 2 Star Wars: Rogue Leader Starfox Adventures Super Smash Bros. Melee Tales of Symphonia The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    Metroid prime 1

    I hated it never really took to this Console but I especially hated this game.

    Think Zelda is overrated trash as well but figured generic might actually **** his pants in rage if I remove it this early, therefore Metroid prime 1 you are the weakest link goodbye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭pasta-solo


    Can we just pretend the above didn't happen since its not formatted correctly? ( I mean this jokingly of course)

    Out of curiosity though, do you genuinely believe Metroid Prime is the weakest game on the list? I mean, even if you hate the series, Metroid Prime 2 is there as well, would you not get rid of that first, or do you like that one better?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭jcd5971


    Hey I'm using the mobile app, I happy it's even working let alone worry about formatting

    Metroid 2 was better from what I remember, also I really disliked the first one, didn't play alot of the games on the list so seemed unfair to kill a title I never played


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭pasta-solo


    jcd5971 wrote: »
    Hey I'm using the mobile app, I happy it's even working let alone worry about formatting

    Metroid 2 was better from what I remember, also I really disliked the first one, didn't play alot of the games on the list so seemed unfair to kill a title I never played

    Fair enough! Metroid Prime 2 is generally considered a lesser game to the original, but everyone's entitled to an opinion I guess. Was really hoping Prime would make it to the vote!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Apparently I'm a huge Zelda fan :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭pasta-solo


    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
    Mario Party (series)
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Soul Calibur 2
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader
    Starfox Adventures
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    List tidied up. I'm killing Rogue Leader. Of the games I've played, its the weakest here. Not a bad game at all, and the graphics blew me away at the time, but it feels a little hollow these days, lacking in content and doesn't really hold up to replay. But still, a decent game!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
    Mario Party (series)
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Soul Calibur 2
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader
    Starfox Adventures
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour was fun, but suffered from the same issues as Tennis and Football, albeit less so. Just no depth and not something you'd play for more than a Weekend Rental


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,576 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Yis are all animals killing some of my most treasured memories :'(

    I am starting a petition to have yis all banned :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,295 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Yis are all animals killing some of my most treasured memories :'(

    I am starting a petition to have yis all banned :P



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,353 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
    Mario Party (series)
    Metroid Prime 1
    Metroid Prime 2
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Soul Calibur 2
    Star Wars: Rogue Leader
    Starfox Adventures
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    As has just been mentioned after Prime 1s horrific, unjustified murder, Prime 2 is definitely the lesser of the two games. Just not right having Prime 2 in this list if Prime 1 is already gone :(


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I don't need to comment on Metroid Prime 1. Removing it us a crime against good taste.

    Also saying Mario golf has no depth comes across as someone nor having played it. Camelot crafted what is basically a golf RPG which gives the single player a huge amount of depth and content. Camelot's Mario Golf (and everybody's golf which they also make ) are criminally underrated.

    Also Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is another criminally underrated game and is far from a gimmick game. It's one of the best platformers ever made and was created by the same team that would go on to make Mario galaxy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    I did play it Retro. It was fine.
    It was better than the Tennis and Soccer games in terms of longevity. "Depth" is subjective. I don't put much mass on golf games no matter how great they are.
    I enjoy the Camelot stuff, and always have.
    But if you gave 18yo me €50 and said I could pick one game from that list, my 1st choice would not have been Mario Golf. It was that or kill one of the MANY Japanses-y JRP-ish games that are on that list which, tbf, I'd never played.

    Paper Mario, Pikmin 1 & 2, Resident Evil 4 and Re-make, Super Smash Bros Melee, LOZ: Twilight Princess and Viewtiful Joe were all games I enjoyed more than Mario Golf. And that's the brass tax of it. (even if I think I some eye and muscle strain trying to beat Viewtiful Joe)

    On Metroid, I only played 1 and it was grand.
    I remember the graphics being amazing at the time.
    Though having never played a Metroid Game before I found myself lost a lot, despite there being a decent (for the time) 3D map.
    Must have put 10-15 hours in, but just wasn't "feeling it". Grand game, I can see why those that like it, like it.
    Iirc there was some clunky as f**k attempts at platforming too, I might be misremembering that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,295 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Baten Kaitos
    Chibi Robo
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Soul Calibur 2
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    Baten Kaitos gone, no idea what this game is so cant be having it win!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    ^ See.... thats what I really wanted to do, but was trying to stay with games I played :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Baten Kaitos gone, no idea what this game is so cant be having it win!

    One of the few RPGs that I've played and enjoyed. Had an unusual card mechanic, and looked gorgeous (for the time). Very similar to the RE:make and RE0 in that it had pre-rendered or painted backgrounds, which had animated/video segments layered on top to give them some life.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    Chibi Robo
    Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
    Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
    Killer 7
    Kirby Air Ride
    Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
    Pikmin 1
    Pikmin 2
    Resident Evil 4
    Resident Evil REmake
    Soul Calibur 2
    Super Smash Bros. Melee
    Tales of Symphonia
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
    Viewtiful Joe (1 and 2)

    Getting rid of Pikmin. It's a good game but Pikmin 2 was superior in every way over the first in my opinon.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I actually found metroid prime platforming to be really good. It was surprising to have great platforming on a fps at the time. It did just borrow from jumping flash in that regard but if it worked why not use it.

    I really enjoyed Baten Kaitos. It had an amazing battle system with loads of nuance. It wasn't perfect though. The story was rubbish, the sound mix was tribe with the VA sounding like it was recorded underwater and the battle system took a while to open up as it took a long ti b e for your deck to expand and let you use enough cards to start doing useful combos.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭jcd5971


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I don't need to comment on Metroid Prime 1. Removing it us a crime against good taste.

    in your opinion it is.if i wanted to troll id just remove zelda for the giggles.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,410 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    jcd5971 wrote: »
    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I don't need to comment on Metroid Prime 1. Removing it us a crime against good taste.

    in your opinion it is.if i wanted to troll id just remove zelda for the giggles.

    It's a bit of fun. Relax.


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