Lions v New Zealand 3rd Test Match Thread

razorblunt

Haskell having the time of his life in the background there.

Royal Legend

Did I see a big "Loins" flag in the crowd????????

ScrubsfanChris

Its like no one won so we have to fill all this time with something..........

Nice speech's from Reid and Warbs, but 70% of the crowd look like they've already shuffled off.

Hastentoadd

Unbelievable decision by Poite. Offside is offside. When the ABs look back at this I think they will feel robbed by an absolutely shocking decision by the ref

mfceiling

PTH2009 wrote: »

Really should of played ET

Fairly sure he wouldn't qualify with the residency rules. Plus with his little arms and legs he'd be useless.

Beefy78

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Kieran Read is a gent.

Good looking bloke too.

irishbucsfan

AdamD wrote: »

Oh of course, just thought you were insinuating hes the reason they didn't win. Not sure Jordie's kicking is that much better either at the moment.

Well his kicking would have been the reason they didn't win if they had a better alternative to kick, but obviously there's not situation where he shouldn't be in the team.

thomond2006

Hastentoadd wrote: »

Unbelievable decision by Poite. Offside is offside. When the ABs look back at this I think they will feel robbed by an absolutely shocking decision by the ref

Accidental offside was the correct call. Calling Owens' action deliberate/cynical would have been incredibly harsh.

Augme

A trophy presentation in a drawn series? Ffs.

irishman86

Royal Legend wrote: »

Did I see a big "Loins" flag in the crowd????????

I guess the Scottish fans did travel after all :pac:

PTH2009

Hope the lads enjoy there time off and all come back flying in the new season and hopefully the Irish guys will be celebrating come March 2018

I imagine New Zealand will do the grand autumn Euro tour in 2018 ??? Maybe play us there next summer ???

corny

Anyone else think Poite made the right call?

Erik Shin

mfceiling wrote: »

Fairly sure he wouldn't qualify with the residency rules. Plus with his little arms and legs he'd be useless.

He has a big heart... Munster man through & through

irishman86

corny wrote: »

Anyone else think Poite made the right call?

If they take of the red tinted glasses then no, with them on perhaps

ScrubsfanChris

Augme wrote: »

A trophy presentation in a drawn series? Ffs.

Both lifting it was a nice touch if not a bit cheesy.
By right it could have just been a NZ trophy presentation as they retain it.

jojofizzio

Augme wrote: »

A trophy presentation in a drawn series? Ffs.

I have no picture...who did they give the trophy to??

razorblunt

AdamD wrote: »

Poite was very very generous to the Lions throughout that game. New Zealanders will not be impressed with his performance.

For every decision against them there's an unpunished neck roll.
Checks and balances.

CMOTDibbler

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Both lifting it was a nice touch if not a bit cheesy.
By right it could have just been a NZ trophy presentation as they retain it.

To be fair, I don't think Kieran Read would have been comfortable with that.

Hastentoadd

thomond2006 wrote: »

Accidental offside was the correct call. Calling Owens' action deliberate/cynical would have been incredibly harsh.

Offside, interfered with play. That is just a rock solid penalty every minute of the day

ScrubsfanChris

Royal Legend wrote: »

Did I see a big "Loins" flag in the crowd????????

mfceiling

Erik Shin wrote: »

He has a big heart... Munster man through & through

Certainly looks like one.


I jest, I jest!!

fitz

corny wrote: »

Anyone else think Poite made the right call?

Have seen plenty of penalties given for the contact Read made with Williams in the air. Could easily have been a penalty Lions imo.

ScrubsfanChris

jojofizzio wrote: »

I have no picture...who did they give the trophy to??

https://twitter.com/lionsofficial/status/883625594176536576

Sephiral

At best, that was a deeply unusual interpretation of the rules from Poite. New Zealand left a pile of tries out there and more badly missed kicks from Barrett. Lions really lucky, were barely in the opposition 22 and spent most of the game losing territory and possession. Defensive line speed the hero.

laugh

I have to take a Rennie every time Scott Quinell appears on my television.

Augme

jojofizzio wrote: »

I have no picture...who did they give the trophy to??

Both captains took it and held it aloft to the a lovely fireworks display. Cringe.

awec

Augme wrote: »

Both captains took it and held it aloft to the a lovely fireworks display. Cringe.

I enjoyed that. Nice and respectful.

razorblunt

Haskell gets the tv time he was chasing after.


Warburton talking that penalty down to a scrum was incredible, fair due. Hopefully Laidlaw was watching that and seeing how its done, no shrug of the shoulders, just loud, clear comunication to the ref.

irishbucsfan

When he retires, the bidding war between BT and Sky over Lord Haskell of Banterbury will be incredibly fierce.

BBDBB

Augme wrote: »

Both captains took it and held it aloft to the a lovely fireworks display. Cringe.

I do hope they played Don't stop believin in the stadium

jam83

I thought greenwood and quinnell were going to follow Davies into the showers there with the 3 of them walking in a weird hug:)

ironingbored

Hastentoadd wrote: »

Unbelievable decision by Poite. Offside is offside. When the ABs look back at this I think they will feel robbed by an absolutely shocking decision by the ref

Bit like France in 2011.

irishbucsfan

Hastentoadd wrote: »

Unbelievable decision by Poite. Offside is offside. When the ABs look back at this I think they will feel robbed by an absolutely shocking decision by the ref

When you read madness like this you'd almost think Poite invented accidental offside on the spot

razorblunt

The Archbishop of Banterbury.

Get in the focking sea Greenwood.

Subpopulus

QUINNELL: Jonathan, how do you think you played this tour?
DAVIES: Oh, y'know, just tried to play to the best of my abilities.
QUINNELL: Let me tell you something - you were BRILLIANT
DAVIES: Uh, well...
QUINNELL: You were BRILLIANT
DAVIES: Cheers
QUINNELL: BRILLIANT
DAVIES: Um... thanks.

Bazzo

Anyone catch who was man of the match?

CMOTDibbler

Bazzo wrote: »

Anyone catch who was man of the match?

He's still running in fear of a cringeworthy interview.

ThisRegard

corny wrote: »

Anyone else think Poite made the right call?

{raises hand}

The nonsense of blaming Poite for ruining the game, or that any team bottled it, needs to be euthanised, and quite violently, now.

corny

Fair play to Ken Owens. Signing every jersey in the crowd it seems.

Sephiral

Love Gats for cutting right through Sky bigging up Farrell and explaining that he was awful in the first half for bad kicks, intercepts and missed tackles.

Hastentoadd

irishbucsfan wrote: »

When you read madness like this you'd almost think Poite invented accidental offside on the spot

It is one thing to be accidentally offside, I have no issue with such a call, but when you are accidentally offside and you also handle the ball there is no question. It is a penalty. It just simply is. I can't understand how you could possibly argue this.

irishbucsfan

Hastentoadd wrote: »

It is one thing to be accidentally offside, I have no issue with such a call, but when you are accidentally offside and you also handle the ball there is no question. It is a penalty. It just simply is. I can't understand how you could possibly argue this.

Well this is just completely incorrect, accidental offside is when you unintentionally play the ball. And there is no argument to be had there.

The only argument is whether or not there was intent. I think its completely fair to argue there was and I would have seen it as a penalty, but its not black and white at all and a scrum is completely understandable.

ScissorPaperRock

Nice to hear Garland be a bit more balanced in his assessment of Farrell's performance in contrast to Sky's hyperbole

S.M.B.

If New Zealand were 3 points down that would have been given as a penalty.

laugh

There is an entire program featuring Scott Quinnell on speed up next.

irishbucsfan

ScissorPaperRock wrote: »

Nice to hear Garland be a bit more balanced in his assessment of Farrell's performance in contrast to Sky's hyperbole

The question he was asked was hilarious.

Supposedly, he was not completely flawless and up to his own incredibly high standards.

molloyjh

Hastentoadd wrote: »

irishbucsfan wrote: »

When you read madness like this you'd almost think Poite invented accidental offside on the spot

It is one thing to be accidentally offside, I have no issue with such a call, but when you are accidentally offside and you also handle the ball there is no question. It is a penalty. It just simply is. I can't understand how you could possibly argue this.

It was accidental offside which leads to a scrum. Everything else you're saying is just wrong I'm afraid.

11.6 Accidental Offside wrote:

(a)When an offside player cannot avoid being touched by the ball or by a team-mate carrying it, the player is accidentally offside. If the player’s team gains no advantage from this, play continues. If the player’s team gains an advantage, a scrum is formed with the opposing team throwing in the ball.

(b)When a player hands the ball to a team-mate in front of the first player, the receiver is offside. Unless the receiver is considered to be intentionally offside (in which case a penalty kick is awarded), the receiver is accidentally offside and a scrum is formed with the opposing team throwing in the ball.

CMOTDibbler

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Well this is just completely incorrect, accidental offside is when you unintentionally play the ball. And there is no argument to be had there.

The only argument is whether or not there was intent. I think its completely fair to argue there was and I would have seen it as a penalty, but its not black and white at all and a scrum is completely understandable.

I think what Poite decided was fair enough. If Owens had passed the ball to a team mate, then it's a penalty, but he dropped it on the ground which Poite interpreted as not playing it. Hence accidental.

But you could argue that catching it was playing it too.

Edit: molloyjh has explained it very well above.

ScrubsfanChris

I feel this image sums up alot of peoples feelings right now

laugh

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Well this is just completely incorrect, accidental offside is when you unintentionally play the ball. And there is no argument to be had there.

The only argument is whether or not there was intent. I think its completely fair to argue there was and I would have seen it as a penalty, but its not black and white at all and a scrum is completely understandable.

From memory he wasn't looking at where the ball came from. His arm was already in a fixed position and that's where the ball landed. He didn't move to his body, arm or hand to take the ball and he was shocked that it had landed there.