LGBTQIA+

Mr.Frame

Bambi wrote: »

They're worse than world of warcraft for levelling up

Who exactly are "they"

Hank Scorpio

snowflaker wrote: »

That's all way of topic.

The US army now have to enroll transgender people as a requirement because they succumbed to Political pressure.

Can you tell me how that makes America safer?

snowflaker

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

The US army now have to enroll transgender people as a requirement because they succumbed to Political pressure.

Can you tell me how that makes America safer?

thats not my quote

Mr.Frame

ToddyDoody wrote: »

It used to be GLBT until the lesbians threw their weight around and changed it to them first.

As you can imagine, the gays were helpless in its defence.

Were they ? how so,? im gay and I am curious as to why you think I as a gay man was helpless

Goodshape

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

The US army now have to enroll transgender people as a requirement because they succumbed to Political pressure.

Can you tell me how that makes America safer?

I can tell you what LGBTQIA+ means.

Hank Scorpio

snowflaker wrote: »

thats not my quote

Apologies. Boards is acting up.

Cantona's Collars

DoozerT6 wrote: »

I always thought the Q stood for 'questioning' as in they weren't sure of their orientation?

What's the IA+

I think it's a grade in the Junior Cert.

Mr.Frame

Bambi wrote: »

Can we all accept that non straight is the most accurate and elegant collective term even though that will cause epic whinging?

No

Grayson

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

The US army now have to enroll transgender people as a requirement because they succumbed to Political pressure.

Can you tell me how that makes America safer?

During the cold war spies were always on the look out for people who were gay and in the military. They could be blackmailed because obviously if they were in the military they were in the closet.

Not caring about being gay or trans means that these people can't be blackmailed (Well, they could about other stuff but so can anyone).

So that's how america is safer.

It's also about not stopping someone from serving when it makes no difference to their ability.

So it's a win-win.

Dyr

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Maybe "diverse SOGI" is probably more accurate but not so elegant.

I demand elegance

Otherwise we'll wind up with a queue of letters worthy of a monty python sketch

Grayson

Bambi wrote: »

Can we all accept that non straight is the most accurate and elegant collective term even though that will cause epic whinging?

Since the biggest ethnic group is Han Chinese you must from now on identify as non - Han Chinese. Or you could just say non Asian.

AllForIt

Hank_Scorpio comments are deplorable to me. I won't even quote his post as I couldn't possibly quote such fanciful nasty nonsense.

What he's suggesting is that ppl of non heterosexual nature are committing suicide for the sole reason that they are not heterosexual, and nothing whatsoever to do with the challenges they face in their lives in society because of simply who they are.

On top of that he also suggests that 'lefties' are somehow encouraging ppl to be something that they are not. Encouraging ppl to question themselves and consequently 'come out' and suggesting that this 'coming out' has somehow contributed to putting them in a place where they become depressed and in some cases commit suicide.

Charlie Bird was on the TV the other day and he recounted a story of man in Co. Cork who came out at the age of 70 years as a result of the GMR. Better late than never I suppose and I highly doubt he was encouraged to be gay by lefties way back in 70's.

When one hears real personal stories like that juxtaposed with the comments of Hank_Scoripo it tells me that their still exists a bitter element in some small sections of heterosexual society for the recognition and rights afforded to ppl of non-heterosexual orientation.

Annasopra

Bambi wrote: »

I demand elegance

Otherwise we'll wind up with a queue of letters worthy of a monty python sketch

QUILTBAGPIPE?

gizmo81

Bambi wrote: »

I demand elegance

Otherwise we'll wind up with a queue of letters worthy of a monty python sketch

I demand a hairy butt!

But my sexual partners being human get to have autonomy.

Hank Scorpio

AllForIt wrote: »

Hank_Scorpio comments are deplorable to me. I won't even quote his post as I couldn't possibly quote such fanciful nasty nonsense.

Yeah, so sorry for having a different opinion.

Sonics2k

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

The US army now have to enroll transgender people as a requirement because they succumbed to Political pressure.

Can you tell me how that makes America safer?

Can you you tell me how it doesn't?

When it comes down to it in combat, you really don't care about the sexuality, gender, sexual orientation or skin colour, you just want to know they have your back.

Goodshape

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

QUILTBAGPIPE?

That's not militant sounding enough. We'll never get the world conquered if they can't take the acronym seriously.

Also, I can never remember what the PIPE stands for :-/

Dyr

Grayson wrote: »

Since the biggest ethnic group is Han Chinese you must from now on identify as non - Han Chinese. Or you could just say non Asian.

Well if the logic of your category is to refer to everyone that is not han chinese then "non-han-chinese" is the obvious name for the category. Perfectly reasonable actually

Just like if you want to refer to everyone who's not white then the obvious choice of name for that category is......oh no wait, it's "people of colour" because oppression and twisted knickers etc.

Even though "people of colour" excludes the italians and spanish but includes mexicans

Ken.

Mod Locked for review. They better warm up the DRP cause bans are a coming.

Ken.

Mod-Ok, review completed. Going to reopen this and see how we go. Please be civil to each other and any further mention of LGB+ people suffering from a mental illness will be a straight up minimum 1 month ban.

Dyr

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

QUILTBAGPIPE?

It's fabulous but not elegant

Noveight

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Yeah, so sorry for having a different opinion.

Have you watched any videos of Ben Shapiro debating transgender-ism (among other things) on YouTube? I find his approach to be precise and refreshing.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

I feel bad for the normal gay people who just want to get on with their lives and not be associated with all the above.

snowflaker

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

I feel bad for the normal gay people who just want to get on with their lives and not be associated with all the above.

who is normal?

AllForIt

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Yeah, so sorry for having a different opinion.

Nothing in my post suggested you don't have a right to your opinion and in fact I'm glad you've expressed it. For all to see.

Glenster

glenfieldman wrote: »

Its a relevant discussion,
But if i called a gay guy a queer id be called a homophobic, but queer is part of their acronym, is that not a bit of a double standard ?

Not really, it depends on the context that you use it in.

Shouting it out of the back of a hiace at a passerby is homophobic, using it in a polite, non-aggressive way is fine.

Its like a girl can say shes fat to her boyfriend while they're on the couch eating popcorn, but a randomer cant scream "fat bitch" through her letterbox at 4am on st paddys day.

RustyNut

Glenster wrote: »

Its like a girl can say shes fat to her boyfriend while they're on the couch eating popcorn,

And if he says it to her he'll be eating his popcorn through a straw.:D

The Specialist

AllForIt wrote: »

Nothing in my post suggested you don't have a right to your opinion and in fact I'm glad you've expressed it. For all to see.

Nice bully attitude there trying to call him out for having his own opinion. Snowflakes are all the ****ing same, your little porcelain strength feelings get hurt and everyone else has to "look at themselves". Get with the real world and understand people are individuals with their own views, not everybody shares yours and nor should they be expected to.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

The Specialist wrote: »

Nice bully attitude there trying to call him out for having his own opinion. Snowflakes are all the ****ing same, your little porcelain strength feelings get hurt and everyone else has to "look at themselves". Get with the real world and understand people are individuals with their own views, not everybody shares yours and nor should they be expected to.

So... You're offended because s/he is offended?

Water John

Hank so concerned at all those non straight folks, is very occupied, here. Distracting from his main occupation, defending Trump.

The Specialist

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

So... You're offended because s/he is offended?

He/she is belitlling somebodies personal viewpoint as something to be ridiculed - who gives a **** if they are offended?

BowSideChamp

Water John wrote: »

Hank so concerned at all those non straight folks, is very occupied, here. Distracting from his main occupation, defending Trump.

Trump only does LGBT I guess.

BowSideChamp

The Specialist wrote: »

He/she is belitlling somebodies personal viewpoint as something to be ridiculed - who gives a **** if they are offended?

You mean He/She/Xe/Xem/Xyr/+

The Specialist

BowSideChamp wrote: »

You mean He/She/Xe/Xem/Xyr/+

He/She until they bury me, I will never use any other term.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

The Specialist wrote: »

He/she is belitlling somebodies personal viewpoint as something to be ridiculed - who gives a **** if they are offended?

I don't care, I was just highlighting the irony of your post. I couldn't give a shîte that either of ye were offended..

Noveight

The Specialist wrote: »

He/she is belitlling somebodies personal viewpoint as something to be ridiculed

I understand where you're coming from. Posters assuming an illegitimate moral high ground is quite frustrating.

AllForIt

The Specialist wrote: »

Nice bully attitude there trying to call him out for having his own opinion. Snowflakes are all the ****ing same, your little porcelain strength feelings get hurt and everyone else has to "look at themselves". Get with the real world and understand people are individuals with their own views, not everybody shares yours and nor should they be expected to.

Obscure gibberish.

Goodshape

The Specialist wrote: »

He/She until they bury me, I will never use any other term.

Yeah, fight that power! Screw those other people for not being like us! This is the thing in the world I choose to be angry about.

Water John

Some seem to suggest these are modern affectations!!!

Perhaps they should read into Hawaiian and Polynesian cultures.

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/make-it-right/what-native-hawaiian-culture-can-teach-us-about-gender-identity

mynamejeff

ya every has to be something spiceal these days dont they ?


fcuking snowflakes

why cant gay peopl ebe gay people trans be trans etc etc

it seems to ee the SJW types that make all the noise about this sort of thing , i know lots of gay people who are just happy and dont feel the need to shout about it

grow up folks your insecurities are showing .....................

Panthro

It's like watching a round of Countdown.

snowflaker

mynamejeff wrote: »

ya every has to be something spiceal these days dont they ?


fcuking snowflakes

why cant gay peopl ebe gay people trans be trans etc etc

it seems to ee the SJW types that make all the noise about this sort of thing , i know lots of gay people who are just happy and dont feel the need to shout about it

grow up folks your insecurities are showing .....................

Are you giving out about the use of labels an acronyms...???

LadyMacBeth_

LGBT covers it, the rest is nonsense.

Pan sexual? Same as bi. Queer? Same as gay/lesbian, it really isn't necessary.

JRant

Blackalicious said it best

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvPnM2Q1nwU

mullyboyee

I don't see how the T is related to the LGB sexual orientations?

Disregarding the other add-ons which I've never even heard of.

Although I'm neither in an American college nor do I spend my whole life on the internet so that's excusable.

Noveight

mullyboyee wrote: »

I don't see how the T is related to the LGB sexual orientations?

Good point, it's probably easier for these groups to band together under the one rainbow flag as they share similar grievances with society. Rights, recognition, etc.

BlaasForRafa

LadyMacBeth_ wrote: »

LGBT covers it, the rest is nonsense.

Pan sexual? Same as bi. Queer? Same as gay/lesbian, it really isn't necessary.

Seems like the expansion in the acronym came at the same time as the rise in intersectionality and the desperate need for some to indentify themselves to a ridiculous extent. If you identify as a black feminist muslim disabled trans person then you've really hit the jackpot in the intersectional stakes.

TheDriver

If it includes nearly everything bar 100% heterosexual, then according to Kinsey, vast vast majority of us are included in this.

The Rape of Lucretia

The '+' always seems a little sneaky to me : just put the 'P' rather than being coy and discriminating against Paedophiles.

Mod-banned

Wibbs

Sonics2k wrote: »

When it comes down to it in combat, you really don't care about the sexuality, gender, sexual orientation or skin colour, you just want to know they have your back.

Depends on the combat involved. When it comes down to it in infantry type combat, basically you want a very fit man in his twenties, sexuality or skin colour unimportant.