Men who inspire you to age well

Wibbs

Instantly reminds me of Sean Connery in the film Zardoz.

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Nip/Tuck

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The TV series... is it that forgotten about?

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ThinkProgress

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Absolutely. It's what resulted in Tiger Woods' recent arrest.

But if you're taking small amounts of testosterone in your 40s, just enough to get your levels up to close to where they were at when you were, say 27, then isn't that something that the body should be able to handle. Is there a side effect to this? Does it put pressure on the liver/kidneys or something? I don't know.

I look after myself anyway, so I might end up considering it far in the future.

I'm not deadset against chemical help... but I would need to be very sure about any potential adverse effects.

That's what my worry would be... supplementing test in small amounts, might make you feel a bit younger. But is your 50 or 60 year old heart/liver/kidneys designed for it??

Wibbs wrote: »

Certainly. More research into the long term effects of keeping a younger hormonal profile as we age is warranted. In one regard athletes who use banned drugs are a good sample group to look at. They take far higher doses of all sorts of stuff than would be taken in a maintenance type regime. Bodybuilders have higher instances of heart and liver damage for example, but generally it seems longevity isn't particularly affected. Some combinations may increase same. Of particular interest might be the mechanism of insulin in the body. In studies of extremely long lived individuals many lifestyle variables come into play. So you can have 100+ year olds who were smokers and drinkers, some thin, some fat etc, but one commonality is that they all keep the insulin profiles and responses of much younger people. The restricted calorie diet which increases longevity in every species so far looked at(inc our own) mimics such a profile. Even more recently it has been found that a drug used in type 2 diabetes shows strong anti ageing properties.

Some pro athletes take a very noticeable nose-dive in health, after they retire... but how much of that is down to their drug use, and how much is down to pushing their bodies to the limit too often? Hard to say...

I'm not convinced by the calorie restriction theories... but I do think restriction of certain macronutrients, can be beneficial.

Some have concerns about testosterone and prostate health and risk of cancer. On the one hand testosterone makes prostate cancer grow when present, but on the other hand men with higher natural testosterone throughout life have lower risks. One bit of research showed a correlation between the number of orgasms per week and the risk of prostate cancer. Basically the more orgasms throughout life the lower the risk. The mechanism for this was explained along the lines of more movement of seminal fluid meant any dodgy cells were flushed more regularly, but it might be that men with higher testosterone will have higher libidos and therefore will want to have more orgasms. Plus higher libido would be more likely in men who were also more fit overall.

I've heard that EPO can have similar effects on certain cancers... some people with anemia for example, who take EPO, have been shown to develop testicular cancer.

HGH is also known to cause enlargement of internal organs, including your heart.

If such regimes lengthen lives, or even more make longer lives more healthy and in less need of other medical attention, then why not?

It does require a certain leap of faith though... perhaps the point might be, how f**ked up is your body? I can understand someone, who has completely messed up their body, being prepared to be a guinea pig...

But if you're in good enough shape... why take the risk, in order to feel a bit better??

Oh it's not. Even pick up an American origin magazine and their ad space tends to be chock full of pills for every ill(followed by a separate page outlining how said meds may cause willie droop and monsterism ). This goes triple for any science type magazine. On that alone the culture looks like one of rampant hypochondria. Though in a culture of industrialised and extremely expensive medicine I suppose it makes sense to be a bit of a hypochondriac(though the French and Spanish make Americans look like amateurs).

Some Americans are far too trusting of big pharma... science isn't always progress!

Still we are already a medically augmented species. I've never had an antibiotic and the only vaccination I received was for polio, but outside some cults and hippie types I'd be very much a rarity in the West. We're living longer healthier(in general) lives because of medical intervention. Hell people are making it out of childhood at much higher rates than a century ago.

We certainly are... I often even wonder, what generational effects there are to widespread alcohol and caffeine consumption. If your father, and his father, and his father, all consumed alcohol and caffeine... (not even necessarily to excess) will this alter us as a species??

The next step, which is already happening, will be at the level of not just treating illnesses, but augmenting our health and longevity at a deeper level. Immortality is essentially an engineering problem. I can easily imagine in a thousand years time(if not sooner) people routinely living for centuries. If they choose to of course, as such lifespans bring all sorts of non medical issues.

We are kind of a reckless species, though... we seem to crave danger and excess. Can you imagine how crazy we might behave, if we knew someone could patch us together and keep us alive, even after traumatic injuries - injuries that would have previously meant certain death, or severely diminished capacity if still alive!! :pac:

mzungu

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Nip/Tuck

And those of us of a slightly older vintage remember him as Carly's husband Ben on Home and Away.

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How can you not be familiar with Nip/Tuck for someone so aware about plastic surgery? How old are you?

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ThinkProgress

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I wouldn't just assume that hollywood stars should automatically age the same as the average joe/jane bloggs on the street...

I would consider it quite logical, to think that high achievers in life, might also have superior genes. Plus they're in the limelight... so they are more likely to give a sh!t about how they look, so will likely be more motivated to consistently take care of their bodies!

I don't think it's merely a simple case of having greater access to surgery and drugs.

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Salma Hayek, apparently.

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That might very well be true... (I'll take your word for it, as I don't really keep up to date with the hollywood stuff tbh)

But this still doesn't really take away from my point... there is a very real likelihood, that high achievers in life, have superior genes! Those genes might allow them to look slightly better than most average people, as they age...

Drugs will only do so much. They might (or might not) help... a bit... but a person's underlying genetic make-up, and their personal choices/habits, will likely have a stronger influence on how well they age!

High achievers in life, tend to be slightly more intelligent on average... and hence make better decisions with their health too! (again, I'm generalising here... there are always exceptions we can all think of)

Pictures Of Lilly

ThinkProgress wrote: »

But this still doesn't really take away from my point... there is a very real likelihood, that high achievers in life, have superior genes! Those genes might allow them to look slightly better than most average people, as they age...

Drugs will only do so much. They might (or might not) help... a bit... but a person's underlying genetic make-up, and their personal choices/habits, will likely have a stronger influence on how well they age!

Interesting,

I'd be inclined to assume it's a weak argument. To many variables.

The so called good genes could refer anything from natural talent/ability, to good looks, to charisma, to high will power, etc. For example, I don't seem to think they're much of a link between being street smart and making healthy life choices.

I haven't achieved much in my life in spite of my high ambitions, but I do look young for my age and make healthy life choices. Sometimes I think it's the only thing I can do right! So I hope that because I haven't gotten ahead, that it doesn't mean I'll age fast!

Pictures Of Lilly

Dial Hard wrote: »

Salma Hayek, apparently.

Wow, just wow.

ThinkProgress

Pictures Of Lilly wrote: »

Interesting,

I'd be inclined to assume it's a weak argument. To many variables.

The so called good genes could refer anything from natural talent/ability, to good looks, to charisma, to high will power, etc. For example, I don't seem to think they're much of a link between being street smart and making healthy life choices.

I haven't achieved much in my life in spite of my high ambitions, but I do look young for my age and make healthy life choices. Sometimes I think it's the only thing I can do right! So I hope that because I haven't gotten ahead, that it doesn't mean I'll age fast!

Just because there are potentially many variables, doesn't mean it might not be true...

I wouldn't say all high achievers are likely to age better... but certain types might.

It really depends if health and looking good is a priority, or a factor in their careers and personal lives. That's why actors are perhaps a good example... they are high achievers, for whom appearance matters.

Just a theory, I might be wrong!

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You can see just looking at the very first pic google returns that she has had some work done.

Clever work though, fillers/botox - nothing surgical.

No amount of Botox/fillers will be able to give you her genetics and skin type though...

Certain skin types, age far better than others.

Dr Bob

Wibbs wrote: »

Instantly reminds me of Sean Connery in the film Zardoz.

"I'm wearing a f#cking shhpace nappy and I'm shhtill more manly looking than you internet neckbeardshh"

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jimgoose

Tim Dalton.

Dr Crayfish

My dad, he looks great at 67 and still goes for 20k cycles etc. Celebrities don't really count, with their money and their help. Everything in moderation he says.

Pat Kenny will be 70 in January and I think he looks great for his age.

As does Enda Kenny at 66. Sort of maintains the face of a school-kid even as he ages.

William Roache, the guy who plays Ken Barlow in Coronation Street, looks great for 85. When I saw him a few years ago at about 80 it struck me that he looked relatively good and also seemed mentally sharp for his age.

Chris Addison looks good for 45. I saw him on Mock the Week when he must have been about 38-40 and he looked like someone in their early 20s, if not 18 or 19!

One common factor I note in all these people is that they were very thin when young and have decent heads of hair. I think being really thin when young especially gives your body "elbow room" to put on weight as you naturaly will as you age, without it aging you too much.

Sleepy

My Father in law. He's 67 and still has a six pack. The bit that inspires me is that he only re-gained that 6 pack in his forties having put on a fair bit of weight in his late twenties and thirties. He reminds me that it's possible to roll back the years of neglect.

the_syco

Van Damme; doing MMA before MMA was cool.

I think he does his own fight scenes and some stunts?

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I wonder how long his telomeres are though!

Pictures Of Lilly

Roger Waters. He didn't look too handsome when he was young, but you wouldn't think that to look at him now. He's so young at heart. On the other hand, I'm not hearing much about David Gilmour.

alberto67

He's ageing well...

Keyzer

George Clooney looks great, remarkably so in the The American.

Daniel Craig is just shy of 50 and looks very well in the Bond movies albeit with a hell of a lot of training required in advance of filming.

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ligerdub

Gary Player

OldingHostage

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Examples that come to mind would be Jason Statham, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Dylan McDermott, Keanu Reeves, Billy Idol (sort of), and Will Smith. Perhaps Will Smith doesn't count as much, because he's black and black people age better anyway! Before you give your own examples, google these guys if the name doesn't ring a bell.

These men are an inspiration to me as a young man. They're the sort that you kind of forget about their age. You'd be sitting there watching a movie or something for a while before you'd realise "hang on, how long has he been around?". You see most people are associated with an age - but these guys can sit with the oldies one moment (on a talk show or whatever it may be), and yet in another, they can be youthful & bathe in young pussy... or at least could if they wanted to. They've it both ways!

I loved the way when Graham Northon pointed out how Kenanu Reeves hadn't seemed to age, Kenau's reply was a strong "that is not true!" - and that's a good way to handle it, rather than saying "oh well what I do is, I eat X at 2pm every day...."

Oh and I nearly forgot; Robert Redford, even though he's a bit passed it now, but he was damn sexy at 60 in 'Up Close and Personal'!

But you forgot Roger Waters... and he's not on testosterone injections.

Vladmir Putin also.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Any candidates for people who got better with age.

Grahame Souness is a silver fox (so my oh says). When I showed her young graham with his 70’s porn style haircut, moustache and even eyebrows she nearly barfed.

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Franz Von Peppercorn

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Just because there are potentially many variables, doesn't mean it might not be true...

I wouldn't say all high achievers are likely to age better... but certain types might.

It really depends if health and looking good is a priority, or a factor in their careers and personal lives. That's why actors are perhaps a good example... they are high achievers, for whom appearance matters.

Just a theory, I might be wrong!

One thing you notice is that actors age better than singers. The Rolling Stones have looked 90 for decades now. Drugs? Or smoking?

Both singers and actors are in the limelight. Both have historically lived the high life (including drugs) when young. But actors always age better.

Wibbs

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Both singers and actors are in the limelight. Both have historically lived the high life (including drugs) when young. But actors always age better.

"Always" never sits right with me, but there could be something to it. It might be simply explained that actors are chosen for obviously their acting ability, but in mainstream screen, small and big, they're also picked for their looks. That's a lot of preselection. Good looking people are more likely to retain their looks into older years, or at least still look better looking than their peers as they did at twenty. Plus the business is youth and beauty obsessed, so actors are more likely to work much harder at retaining the cache of youth.

Rock stars/musicians might be good looking(depends on the genre), but it's more about their talent, so there's less preselection going on. Hence if they're homely looking at 20, they're likely to remain so at 60. Exceptions would be boy/girl bands. Your Take That types in their forties tend to look better than the equivalent grunge band in their 40's.

Or something.

Class of 82

Stephen Patrick Morrissey. The hero of my younger days. Always thought he aged superbly and looked better in his late 40s than early 20s.

Bob Harris

Jeff Bezos has seen more than his bank balance get bigger in the last few years.

CulptPrit

Justin Trudeau

BrianD3

Various factors that make a man age well. Keeping most of your hair, and being slim are more important than facial wrinkles. If you are also good looking as a young man then that's another factor. I've picked out three examples and I'd say the only one that would cause disagreement is no.2 given that many people can't bring themselves to say a good word about the guy.

1) Noel Gallagher. Slim and compact even "boyish" looking with an amazing head of hair for a man in his fifties or any age. Fairly craggy face but actually looks better than he did 25 years ago when he had a fatter face. Was/is a smoker who did a lot of drugs and drinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYumB5Vbh4A

2) Liam Gallagher. Hair not as good as his brother's hair, some thinning. Still very good for mid 40s. A good looking man in his youth and still is as he hasn't gotten fat and covered his facial feature with bloat. Was/is a smoker who did a lot of drugs and drinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Mfaczg2Kk

3) JJ Burnel from the Stranglers. In his mid sixties now and has degraded a bit but when he was in his late 40s when the below was filmed he looked nowhere near his age IMO. I don't know if he smoked or did drugs etc. High level martial artist. I think he was considered good looking also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdH_ZvpA-ko

CulptPrit

BrianD3 wrote: »

Various factors that make a man age well. Keeping most of your hair, and being slim are more important than facial wrinkles. If you are also good looking as a young man then that's another factor.

Cillain Murphy

Brregzit

Elon Musk
Cristiano Ronaldo

Entitled

A good friend of mine who is in his 40s but manages to pull women in their 20s.

Problem Of Motivation

Enrique Iglesias

Asian Scammer

Jared Leto

BorneTobyWilde

Stallone buying some wine in a store, looking pretty sharp for a guy in his 70's

DoozerT6

Never thought I'd say this, but......Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Asian Scammer

DoozerT6 wrote: »

Never thought I'd say this, but......Arnold Schwarzenegger.

He's not fooling anyone with that hair dye!

Patient11

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Stallone buying some wine in a store, looking pretty sharp for a guy in his 70's

Stallone is in better shape than most people half his age.