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Dublin City Marathon 29 Oct 2017 - *** NOTE: no number transfer!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Probably not much. Just feels like a super soft victory if that kind of time wins.

    How is Freddy winning any different to Sergiu winning back in the day when he was competing for Moldova?

    In fairness this is nothing to do with Freddie, it's more so that all national titles should go to someone with a irish passport.

    Now Pena is another bad case. The rules need to be look at.

    Freddie did nothing wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Podge83


    Fair Play to Dublin Marathon organisers who put on a world class event yesterday. Memories of the half now well and truly put away as a "one off" memory. Had a few worries about them handling the numbers but (from what I saw) all seemed to be organised well.

    My only complaint would be the provision of the Lucozade sport - massive bottles at the first station and dreaded plastic cups after.

    On the National Title debacle, the key problem here is what Gary was told on Saturday - he truly believed he had won it and is quoted shortly after being told he didn't. Whatever your thoughts on the "Irishness" of people, the rules should be clear and you should know who you are running against when running for National Titles and big purses. Freddy is a sound fella - it's nothing to do with personality.

    Regarding someone's comment about women running that time "Globally" - WTF has that got to do with anything!!??


  • Registered Users Posts: 803 ✭✭✭JohnDozer


    Bib No.| Username | PB | Predicted Time | Actual Time
    2803|echancrure|2:49:20|2:48:59|2:58:12|
    9558|diego_b|3:43:41|3:39:30|3:54:53
    |robinph|2:49:44|2:49:59|
    |ISOP|4:18:55|4:15:00|
    3868|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
    4514|davedanon|3:14:18|3:09:59|
    6501|Lazare|n/a|3:58:xx|3:58:08|
    3241|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
    1678|withcheeseplease|2:59:58|2:59:57|2:58:35
    |Damo 2k9|n/a|3:59:59|
    |DC.|2:56:02|2:44:00| 2:42:29 |
    |Dexter50|4:14:19|4:10:00|
    4591|Wubble Wubble|3:49:01|3:29:59|
    7703|RedRunner|3:52:30|4:15:00|
    |apjb82|3:35:15|3:10:00|
    |CCR|2:59:52|3:29:59|
    |Peckham|2:58:27|3:44:59|
    |Krusty_Clown|2:30:01|2:34:59|
    |Derco|4:16:04|4:12:59|
    |Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59
    10404|Unthought Known|4:16:44|3:44:59|3:41:41
    3790|HibernianRunner|3:28:22|3:24:00|
    |Slow_Runner|3:42:26|3:33:xx|
    |Fiftyplus|3:29:45|3:29:44|
    1371|Murph_D|3:28:28|3:19:59|
    |ThePiedPiper|2:49:00|3:19:59|
    3364|TFBubendorfer|2:55:07|3:15:00|3:10:20
    |jaggiebunnet|3:32:39|3:24:59|
    |Jakey Rolling|3:27:15|3:29:59|
    |Eric the Eagle|3:26:25|3:19:59|
    |El Caballo|3:15:29|3:11:29|
    2634|Trampas|3:18:41|3:20:01|3:26:20
    |boykev|4:00:56|3:29:30|
    1942|MisterDrak|3:07:24|3:14:00|
    |ciarraiabu1977|2:57:45|2:57:40
    1322|Singer|3:32:04|3:14:15|3:14:11
    |Doeshedare|n/a|3:39:59|
    2855|Martyboy48|3:18:00|3:30|
    |Brusna|n/a|3:27:59|
    |Hawkwing|3:58:30|4:59:59|
    1805|JohnDozer|3:59:13|3:39:59|3:40:14
    |Jack Bracken|N/A|5:30:00|


    A very happy man! A little bit of the fear of 26.2 was broken yesterday...


  • Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Bottleopener


    Where to begin on yesterday! Amazing day out - crowd were fantastic all round. As for overall result - 4:17, shaving 32 mins off my first marathon in May! Came through halfway in 2:00, 30k in 2:50 - but unfortunately lost a bit of time on Roebuck Road! Still happy with the day, and congrats to everyone - buzzed for the next one now!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Bib No.| Username | PB | Predicted Time | Actual Time
    2803|echancrure|2:49:20|2:48:59|2:58:12|
    9558|diego_b|3:43:41|3:39:30|3:54:53
    |robinph|2:49:44|2:49:59|
    |ISOP|4:18:55|4:15:00|
    3868|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
    4514|davedanon|3:14:18|3:09:59|DNF
    6501|Lazare|n/a|3:58:xx|3:58:08|
    3241|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
    1678|withcheeseplease|2:59:58|2:59:57|2:58:35
    |Damo 2k9|n/a|3:59:59|
    |DC.|2:56:02|2:44:00| 2:42:29 |
    |Dexter50|4:14:19|4:10:00|
    4591|Wubble Wubble|3:49:01|3:29:59|
    7703|RedRunner|3:52:30|4:15:00|
    |apjb82|3:35:15|3:10:00|
    |CCR|2:59:52|3:29:59|
    |Peckham|2:58:27|3:44:59|
    |Krusty_Clown|2:30:01|2:34:59|
    |Derco|4:16:04|4:12:59|
    |Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59
    10404|Unthought Known|4:16:44|3:44:59|3:41:41
    3790|HibernianRunner|3:28:22|3:24:00|
    |Slow_Runner|3:42:26|3:33:xx|
    |Fiftyplus|3:29:45|3:29:44|
    1371|Murph_D|3:28:28|3:19:59|
    |ThePiedPiper|2:49:00|3:19:59|
    3364|TFBubendorfer|2:55:07|3:15:00|3:10:20
    |jaggiebunnet|3:32:39|3:24:59|
    |Jakey Rolling|3:27:15|3:29:59|
    |Eric the Eagle|3:26:25|3:19:59|
    |El Caballo|3:15:29|3:11:29|
    2634|Trampas|3:18:41|3:20:01|3:26:20
    |boykev|4:00:56|3:29:30|
    1942|MisterDrak|3:07:24|3:14:00|
    |ciarraiabu1977|2:57:45|2:57:40
    1322|Singer|3:32:04|3:14:15|3:14:11
    |Doeshedare|n/a|3:39:59|
    2855|Martyboy48|3:18:00|3:30|
    |Brusna|n/a|3:27:59|
    |Hawkwing|3:58:30|4:59:59|
    1805|JohnDozer|3:59:13|3:39:59|3:40:14
    |Jack Bracken|N/A|5:30:00|


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  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭Saint Sonner


    ooter wrote: »
    I was thinking of plodding around but still aiming to hit 4 hours - is it possible or would it be too tough in peoples opinion. The furthest I have ever ran was 18 miles about 2 years ago.

    Last year I was injured and only got 8 weeks solid training in before the marathon, honestly thought I'd still sneak under 4 hours but I ended up finishing in 4:09.
    I reckon sub 4 would be too tough but best of luck if you do decide to go for it.
    Well I decided to do it on Saturday. Thanks for all the advice on here I used bits and pieces of advise form here and other sources and it really helped.
    I was very worried before the start as didn't know what was ahead but have to say I enjoyed the whole occasion and couldn't believe that I managed to get home in a 3:53:27. Pace was:
    10k: 09:11/mile
    Half: 9:07/mile
    30k: 8:58/mile
    Finish: 08:28
    Overall: 08:55

    I was well chuffed and I have to say I thought to myself that there would be points where I would be running along with no spectators and i might give up but couldn't believe the level of support that people give. Fair Play.

    Well done to all who give it a go - Don't think i'll do another one its just a bucket list item i think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 apjb82


    Could somebody please add me to the table. Race no 3575, finished 3.12.33.

    Delighted as new PB by 23 mins. 3.10 was never on. Got caught in traffic at the beginning and the first 3 miles were my slowest. By 10k I was 2 mins outside of 3.10 and I maintained that gap until the end. Really enjoyed the day. Such wonderful support out there!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Probably not much. Just feels like a super soft victory if that kind of time wins.

    How is Freddy winning any different to Sergiu winning back in the day when he was competing for Moldova?

    2.18 is super soft? In the last 20 years at least 15 times the leading Irish man has been slower than that time. In fact 2.18 is one of the leading Irish times on that course. Its inside the q time for olympics and europeans. Its under 5.18 per mile which isnt a whole lot slower than your own pace for 400 meters. Your morphing into walshb. GOH IS 43 and ran an Irish 40+ record his chance to win an iconic trophey and put his name alongside some ledgends of the sport may not come again. Rules may be rules but surely you, even you, can empathise with his frustration even if like me you can see the otherside of the story aswell.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Bib No.| Username | PB | Predicted Time | Actual Time
    2803|echancrure|2:49:20|2:48:59|2:58:12|
    9558|diego_b|3:43:41|3:39:30|3:54:53
    |robinph|2:49:44|2:49:59|2:58:03
    |ISOP|4:18:55|4:15:00|
    3868|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
    4514|davedanon|3:14:18|3:09:59|DNF
    6501|Lazare|n/a|3:58:xx|3:58:08|
    3241|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
    1678|withcheeseplease|2:59:58|2:59:57|2:58:35
    |Damo 2k9|n/a|3:59:59|
    |DC.|2:56:02|2:44:00| 2:42:29 |
    |Dexter50|4:14:19|4:10:00|
    4591|Wubble Wubble|3:49:01|3:29:59|
    7703|RedRunner|3:52:30|4:15:00|
    |apjb82|3:35:15|3:10:00|3:12:33
    |CCR|2:59:52|3:29:59|
    |Peckham|2:58:27|3:44:59|
    |Krusty_Clown|2:30:01|2:34:59|
    |Derco|4:16:04|4:12:59|
    |Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59
    10404|Unthought Known|4:16:44|3:44:59|3:41:41
    3790|HibernianRunner|3:28:22|3:24:00|
    |Slow_Runner|3:42:26|3:33:xx|
    |Fiftyplus|3:29:45|3:29:44|
    1371|Murph_D|3:28:28|3:19:59|
    |ThePiedPiper|2:49:00|3:19:59|
    3364|TFBubendorfer|2:55:07|3:15:00|3:10:20
    |jaggiebunnet|3:32:39|3:24:59|
    |Jakey Rolling|3:27:15|3:29:59|
    |Eric the Eagle|3:26:25|3:19:59|
    |El Caballo|3:15:29|3:11:29|
    2634|Trampas|3:18:41|3:20:01|3:26:20
    |boykev|4:00:56|3:29:30|
    1942|MisterDrak|3:07:24|3:14:00|
    |ciarraiabu1977|2:57:45|2:57:40
    1322|Singer|3:32:04|3:14:15|3:14:11
    |Doeshedare|n/a|3:39:59|
    2855|Martyboy48|3:18:00|3:30|
    |Brusna|n/a|3:27:59|
    |Hawkwing|3:58:30|4:59:59|
    1805|JohnDozer|3:59:13|3:39:59|3:40:14
    |Jack Bracken|N/A|5:30:00|


    Happy enough with my run, despite my time being 10 minutes off what I was aiming for, and capable of. The time was kind of irrelevant to me though. I managed to control my speed and not get carried away for the first 10km, then I put the foot down and tried to then see how long I could hang on for and got down to a predicted 3 minute pb pace until 30km'ish. Then started to loose the speed a bit, but nothing too dramatic, but also noticed that the blood glucose levels were dropping a tiny bit quicker than I'd like so took on some extra Lucozade/ gels from the feed station just to ensure I did have enough backup supplies if things went wrong, they didn't. I then started to get a feeling of some cramp coming on in my left leg so had to properly back off, but keep moving as steady as possible to ensure I could keep moving at all and just relatively plodded in for the last couple of miles.

    Could I have got round in a low 2:5x time yesterday if I'd paced it differently, definitely. Could I have got a pb of sub 2:49:?? yesterday, almost certainly and due to the Dublin course that would rank higher in difficulty than the run around London a couple of years ago. But the whole point for me was to go out and test myself to see where the breaking point is. Running the first 10km relatively steady worked, I was able to pick up the pace and then get back any dropped time from that first 10km and be back ahead of schedule by half way and held it for longer than expected. It was a useful exercise for a marathon where I didn't need to secure a GFA time, although I did actually improve on my current GFA time by 20 seconds.

    Now to train properly* before next April.

    *Hmm, maybe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    ultrapercy wrote: »
    2.18 is super soft? In the last 20 years at least 15 times the leading Irish man has been slower than that time. In fact 2.18 is one of the leading Irish times on that course. Its inside the q time for olympics and europeans. Its under 5.18 per mile which isnt a whole lot slower than your own pace for 400 meters. Your morphing into walshb. GOH IS 43 and ran an Irish 40+ record his chance to win an iconic trophey and put his name alongside some ledgends of the sport may not come again. Rules may be rules but surely you, even you, can empathise with his frustration even if like me you can see the otherside of the story aswell.

    Can understand of course, but at the same time the hypocrisy of people is sickening. Where was the outrage when Sergiu claimed his titles while competing for Moldova? Where was the outrage when Jeremy Philips won the National 100m this year?

    That 400m remark is idiotic. I can run a 400 a hell of a lot faster than 79 seconds. WTF.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭healy1835


    Caught the leaders in action at 3, 6 & 9 miles yesterday. Gary O'Hanlon's PB is made even more impressive by the fact that the both lead group and Ciobanu/Scullion had dropped him by 2 miles, he had to run a large whack of his race solo to reign them back and then finish hard. The administrative mess of the National Championship shouldn't take away from a savage run.


  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭Jack Bracken


    Bib No.| Username | PB | Predicted Time | Actual Time
    2803|echancrure|2:49:20|2:48:59|2:58:12|
    9558|diego_b|3:43:41|3:39:30|3:54:53
    |robinph|2:49:44|2:49:59|2:58:03
    |ISOP|4:18:55|4:15:00|
    3868|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
    4514|davedanon|3:14:18|3:09:59|DNF
    6501|Lazare|n/a|3:58:xx|3:58:08|
    3241|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
    1678|withcheeseplease|2:59:58|2:59:57|2:58:35
    |Damo 2k9|n/a|3:59:59|
    |DC.|2:56:02|2:44:00| 2:42:29 |
    |Dexter50|4:14:19|4:10:00|
    4591|Wubble Wubble|3:49:01|3:29:59|
    7703|RedRunner|3:52:30|4:15:00|
    |apjb82|3:35:15|3:10:00|3:12:33
    |CCR|2:59:52|3:29:59|
    |Peckham|2:58:27|3:44:59|
    |Krusty_Clown|2:30:01|2:34:59|
    |Derco|4:16:04|4:12:59|
    |Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59
    10404|Unthought Known|4:16:44|3:44:59|3:41:41
    3790|HibernianRunner|3:28:22|3:24:00|
    |Slow_Runner|3:42:26|3:33:xx|
    |Fiftyplus|3:29:45|3:29:44|
    1371|Murph_D|3:28:28|3:19:59|
    |ThePiedPiper|2:49:00|3:19:59|
    3364|TFBubendorfer|2:55:07|3:15:00|3:10:20
    |jaggiebunnet|3:32:39|3:24:59|
    |Jakey Rolling|3:27:15|3:29:59|
    |Eric the Eagle|3:26:25|3:19:59|
    |El Caballo|3:15:29|3:11:29|
    2634|Trampas|3:18:41|3:20:01|3:26:20
    |boykev|4:00:56|3:29:30|
    1942|MisterDrak|3:07:24|3:14:00|
    |ciarraiabu1977|2:57:45|2:57:40
    1322|Singer|3:32:04|3:14:15|3:14:11
    |Doeshedare|n/a|3:39:59|
    2855|Martyboy48|3:18:00|3:30|
    |Brusna|n/a|3:27:59|
    |Hawkwing|3:58:30|4:59:59|
    1805|JohnDozer|3:59:13|3:39:59|3:40:14
    20545|Jack Bracken|N/A|5:30:00|5:38:12



    Didn't quite make my target but still pretty happy just to finish. Oddly found it much, much easier than the half which I mostly put down to there actually being water stations. Beat my 15k, 10mi, 20k and half marathon times out the gate as well so delighted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭PWEI


    Chivito550 wrote: »

    How is Freddy winning any different to Sergiu winning back in the day when he was competing for Moldova?


    There's a big difference.
    Sergiu was living here permanently, working & paying his taxes here & has since gone on to be an Irish citizen.
    Freddy just stays in a house in Raheny for a few months a year & doesn't even have a PPS number.
    The whole thing stinks & sets a very bad precedent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Can understand of course, but at the same time the hypocrisy of people is sickening. Where was the outrage when Sergiu claimed his titles while competing for Moldova? Where was the outrage when Jeremy Philips won the National 100m this year?

    That 400m remark is idiotic. I can run a 400 a hell of a lot faster than 79 seconds. WTF.

    Well nobody on here including myself know who the **** Jenny Philips is. A lot of us know GOH and Freddy personally. Sergiu was a different situation in that he lived andvworked in Ireland full time from 06 and developed as an athlete in this country. I beat him on longford in 06 to demonstrate how far hes come. To call any of this hypocricy is faux outrage. Its possibly a little double standards but very understandable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    PWEI wrote: »
    There's a big difference.
    Sergiu was living here permanently, working & paying his taxes here & has since gone on to be an Irish citizen.
    Freddy just stays in a house in Raheny for a few months a year & doesn't even have a PPS number.
    The whole thing stinks & sets a very bad precedent.

    Thought he met residence rules and was here for 6 of last 12 months?

    How do you know he isn't planning to become an Irish citizen and eventually represent Ireland. You don't. You are using hindsight to suit yourself.

    How is it ok for jokers like Tori Pena and Jennifer Carey to fly in and nab National titles, staying here no more than a week or two a year? Does a passport make things ok.

    Freddy is far more involved in Irish athletics than those people.

    I think a lot of it boils down to the fact he is Kenyan and it is perceived as unfair. If he was Swiss or Portuguese running the same times, people wouldn't be so outraged I feel, judging by the hypocrisy regarding Sergiu. Sure Sergiu ran for Moldova at the 2013 World Championships, long after winning national titles.

    But sure bend it whatever way you want to suit yourself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    ultrapercy wrote: »
    Well nobody on here including myself know who the **** Jenny Philips is. A lot of us know GOH and Freddy personally. Sergiu was a different situation in that he lived andvworked in Ireland full time from 06 and developed as an athlete in this country. I beat him on longford in 06 to demonstrate how far hes come. To call any of this hypocricy is faux outrage. Its possibly a little double standards but very understandable.

    I'm not referring to you. I'm referring to the lack of outrage among the competitors of Jeremy Philips, or within the athletics community in general. It didn't cause a ripple. Likewise Pena and Carey.

    And leave out the 400m nonsense. You clearly haven't a notion what you are talking about if you can't do basic maths.

    Congrats on your 2006 victory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Thought he met residence rules and was here for 6 of last 12 months?

    How do you know he isn't planning to become an Irish citizen and eventually represent Ireland. You don't. You are using hindsight to suit yourself.

    How is it ok for jokers like Tori Pena and Jennifer Carey to fly in and nab National titles, staying here no more than a week or two a year? Does a passport make things ok.

    Freddy is far more involved in Irish athletics than those people.

    I think a lot of it boils down to the fact he is Kenyan and it is perceived as unfair. If he was Swiss or Portuguese running the same times, people wouldn't be so outraged I feel, judging by the hypocrisy regarding Sergiu. Sure Sergiu ran for Moldova at the 2013 World Championships, long after winning national titles.

    But sure bend it whatever way you want to suit yourself.

    Speaking for myself Im not outraged. Also who said the Tori Penna situation was ok? People respond on social media to topics they are most intrested in, on this particular forum that happens to be the marathon. You may also be correct in pointing out that the Sergiu situation was similarly unfair but that doesnt make what happened yesterday ok. Rules on this sort of thing need adjusting from the top to the bottom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    I'm not referring to you. I'm referring to the lack of outrage among the competitors of Jeremy Philips, or within the athletics community in general. It didn't cause a ripple. Likewise Pena and Carey.

    And leave out the 400m nonsense. You clearly haven't a notion what you are talking about if you can't do basic maths.

    Congrats on your 2006 victory.

    The 400 remark was to counter weight your own nonsense about 2.18 being soft. You dont have a monopoly on ****e talk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    ultrapercy wrote: »
    Speaking for myself Im not outraged. Also who said the Tori Penna situation was ok? People respond on social media to topics they are most intrested in, on this particular forum that happens to be the marathon. You may also be correct in pointing out that the Sergiu situation was similarly unfair but that doesnt make what happened yesterday ok. Rules on this sort of thing need adjusting from the top to the bottom.

    I don't have an issue with Freddy winning the national title. The only issue for me is what seems to be bad communication by AAI. But sure that's not surprising is it given the Rio Marathon and London 4x400 debacles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭ooter


    Well I decided to do it on Saturday. Thanks for all the advice on here I used bits and pieces of advise form here and other sources and it really helped.
    I was very worried before the start as didn't know what was ahead but have to say I enjoyed the whole occasion and couldn't believe that I managed to get home in a 3:53:27. Pace was:
    10k: 09:11/mile
    Half: 9:07/mile
    30k: 8:58/mile
    Finish: 08:28
    Overall: 08:55

    I was well chuffed and I have to say I thought to myself that there would be points where I would be running along with no spectators and i might give up but couldn't believe the level of support that people give. Fair Play.

    Well done to all who give it a go - Don't think i'll do another one its just a bucket list item i think.

    Well done mate, that's fantastic, looks like you paced it perfectly too, finishing strong.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    ultrapercy wrote: »
    The 400 remark was to counter weight your own nonsense about 2.18 being soft. You dont have a monopoly on ****e talk.

    2:18 is soft. Look at the equivalent performances with other distances on the IAAF tables.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭ooter


    Does GOH qualify for this, he ran the time but wasn't the first Irish male?
    http://www.athleticsireland.ie/news/european-selection-opportunity-at-dublin-marathon


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    ooter wrote: »
    Does GOH qualify for this, he ran the time but wasn't the first Irish male?
    http://www.athleticsireland.ie/news/european-selection-opportunity-at-dublin-marathon

    The time would need to be sub 2:18 to count for that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    ooter wrote: »
    Does GOH qualify for this, he ran the time but wasn't the first Irish male?
    http://www.athleticsireland.ie/news/european-selection-opportunity-at-dublin-marathon

    He didn't run the time. He was almost a minute outside it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    2:18 is soft. Look at the equivalent performances with other distances on the IAAF tables.

    What other distances are up and down rolling hills and on tarmac and cement?

    You can't really translate 400m or 800m times to a marathon, 400m and 800m are run on a fast even surface.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    2:18 is soft. Look at the equivalent performances with other distances on the IAAF tables.

    What other distances are up and down rolling hills and on tarmac and cement?

    You can't really translate 400m or 800m times to a marathon, 400m and 800m are run on a fast even surface.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,529 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Women have bested 2.18...that is softer than a gone off viagra..


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    What other distances are up and down rolling hills and on tarmac and cement?

    You can't really translate 400m or 800m times to a marathon, 400m and 800m are run on a fast even surface.

    That's a really stupid argument. The IAAF tables are based on statistical data based on times run in each distance. WR times in each would be relatively close to each other (some stronger than others as some are outliers), and it's worked backwards in each distance from there. Very simplistic explanation of course, as there's a lot more statistical analysis and mathematical equations that most of us will never understand.

    Many marathons are flat as a pancake. Many 400/800 races are run in horrible wind and driving rain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭RedRunner


    Bib No.| Username | PB | Predicted Time | Actual Time
    2803|echancrure|2:49:20|2:48:59|2:58:12|
    9558|diego_b|3:43:41|3:39:30|3:54:53
    |robinph|2:49:44|2:49:59|2:58:03
    |ISOP|4:18:55|4:15:00|
    3868|hot buttered scones|3:21:45|3:09:59|
    4514|davedanon|3:14:18|3:09:59|DNF
    6501|Lazare|n/a|3:58:xx|3:58:08|
    3241|Johnny_Fontane|3:36:18|3:24:59|
    1678|withcheeseplease|2:59:58|2:59:57|2:58:35
    |Damo 2k9|n/a|3:59:59|
    |DC.|2:56:02|2:44:00| 2:42:29 |
    |Dexter50|4:14:19|4:10:00|
    4591|Wubble Wubble|3:49:01|3:29:59|
    7703|RedRunner|3:52:30|4:15:00|4:13:05
    |apjb82|3:35:15|3:10:00|3:12:33
    |CCR|2:59:52|3:29:59|
    |Peckham|2:58:27|3:44:59|
    |Krusty_Clown|2:30:01|2:34:59|
    |Derco|4:16:04|4:12:59|
    |Spirogyra|3:59:02|3:39:59
    10404|Unthought Known|4:16:44|3:44:59|3:41:41
    3790|HibernianRunner|3:28:22|3:24:00|
    |Slow_Runner|3:42:26|3:33:xx|
    |Fiftyplus|3:29:45|3:29:44|
    1371|Murph_D|3:28:28|3:19:59|
    |ThePiedPiper|2:49:00|3:19:59|
    3364|TFBubendorfer|2:55:07|3:15:00|3:10:20
    |jaggiebunnet|3:32:39|3:24:59|
    |Jakey Rolling|3:27:15|3:29:59|
    |Eric the Eagle|3:26:25|3:19:59|
    |El Caballo|3:15:29|3:11:29|
    2634|Trampas|3:18:41|3:20:01|3:26:20
    |boykev|4:00:56|3:29:30|
    1942|MisterDrak|3:07:24|3:14:00|
    |ciarraiabu1977|2:57:45|2:57:40
    1322|Singer|3:32:04|3:14:15|3:14:11
    |Doeshedare|n/a|3:39:59|
    2855|Martyboy48|3:18:00|3:30|
    |Brusna|n/a|3:27:59|
    |Hawkwing|3:58:30|4:59:59|
    1805|JohnDozer|3:59:13|3:39:59|3:40:14
    20545|Jack Bracken|N/A|5:30:00|5:38:12


    Satisfying result given the year I've had with injuries and having to pull out of Dublin HM with hamstring problem.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭quick feet


    If someone is editing the table could you lob me in please
    Number.3247 Quickfeet || pb 3:17:30 ||target 3:15:00|| Actual 3:18:21


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