British and Irish Cup 2017-2018

The Lost Sheep

Ealing confirmed their semi final as April 21st 3pm kickoff and Jersey have confirmed their home semi v Leinster for same time and date

Bridge93

Would the home teams get to pick the time? Clever from Jersey if so kicking off 30 minutes before the Leinster seniors

the perfect ten

Anyone know when Leinster A will be naming their team for the semi-final in Jersey?

irishbucsfan

the perfect ten wrote: »

Anyone know when Leinster A will be naming their team for the semi-final in Jersey?

I'd guess Friday morning

iamjenko

Leinster Rugby ‘A’

15. Ciarán Frawley
14. Adam Byrne
13. Gavin Mullin
12. Conor O’Brien
11. Tommy O’Brien
10. Cathal Marsh
9. Charlie Rock
1. Ed Byrne
2. Bryan Byrne CAPTAIN
3. Vakh Abdaladze
4. Mick Kearney
5. Ian Nagle
6. Josh Murphy
7. Peadar Timmins
8. Caelan Doris

16. Sean McNulty
17. Peter Dooley
18. Oisín Dowling
19. Will Connors
20. Hugh O’Sullivan
21. Tom Daly
22. Jack Kelly

Dubinusa

Great to see Daly back. Hope they put in a performance.

The Lost Sheep

Only 1 non irish or english side ever made final. 4 finals won by English and 4 by Irish sides.
Would be good if it ended with another Irish win.

Few irish/irish qualified involved for the other semi finalists.
Jerry Sexton, Conor Joyce and Mark Best start for Jersey.
Ex Leinster Sean McCarthy starts for Bedford
Shane O Leary and Piers O Connor start for Ealing

the perfect ten

The Scottish in particular (not in it all in recent years) but also the Welsh don't seem to have taken it seriously.

Bristol didn't bother with it much this season despite having easily the biggest and strongest squad of all the Championship clubs.

The Lost Sheep

the perfect ten wrote: »

The Scottish in particular (not in it all in recent years) but also the Welsh don't seem to have taken it seriously.

Bristol didn't bother with it much this season despite having easily the biggest and strongest squad of all the Championship clubs.

No sponsor killed the competition. There were strong squads from the English sides in the beginning but they brought development/second string squads after a while as there wasnt anything for them to do more and the top sides were concentrating on league and trying for promotion now if there had been a sponsor and better prize money than maybe it would have been different
Scots took it seriously enough but were just poor...
Wouldnt say Welsh didnt take it seriously. Top sides like Pontypridd did anyway

the perfect ten

It does leave the Championship sides with a minimum of 6 free weekends next season so I wonder if the RFU will come up with an alternative cup competition involving English sides below the Premiership e.g. Championship with National One.

Squatter

Not looking good at half time.  The Jerseymen lead   17 - 3 into the second half and are beating us up in the pack.  (It's Treviso all over again!)       Ealing are leading Bedford 26 - 9 in the other semi.

Squatter

Squatter wrote: »

Not looking good at half time.  The Jerseymen lead   17 - 3 into the second half and are beating us up in the pack.  (It's Treviso all over again!)       Ealing are leading Bedford 26 - 9 in the other semi.

How wrong I was!

We scored 14 points in the last 4 minutes to win 29 - 27.

Final V Ealing Trailfinders who strolled to a 36 - 16 win.

the perfect ten

I'm hearing that the final might be played on Saturday 5 May rather than the following week. It is due to be confirmed later on today I believe.

The Lost Sheep

the perfect ten wrote: »

I'm hearing that the final might be played on Saturday 5 May rather than the following week. It is due to be confirmed later on today I believe.

Looks like final is May12th still.
And is on May 12th at 2pm in Ealings ground.

irishfan9

some joke no highlights of leinsters qf or sf wins..

The Lost Sheep

Final this weekend.
A Leinster win puts them top with most titles on their own as theyre currently joint top with Munster on two titles each

Will be forgotten about considering Bilbao but will be interesting to see side named.

Squatter

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Final this weekend.

Will be forgotten about considering Bilbao but will be interesting to see side named.

Not by everyone! I'll be following whatever twitter feeds I can find with great interest!

the perfect ten

The Cup final is being streamed live on Facebook

http://ealingtrailfinders1stxv.com/news/british-and-irish-cup-final-to-be-streamed-live-on

The Lost Sheep

Leinster Rugby ‘A’

15. Jack Kelly
14. Adam Byrne
13. Gavin Mullin
12. Conor O’Brien
11. Tommy O’Brien
10. Ciarán Frawley
9. Charlie Rock
1. Ed Byrne
2. Bryan Byrne CAPTAIN
3. Vakh Abdaladze
4. Mick Kearney
5. Ian Nagle
6. Josh Murphy
7. Peadar Timmins
8. Max Deegan

16. Sean McNulty
17. Peter Dooley
18. Jack Aungier
19. Caelan Doris
20. Will Connors
21. Hugh O’Sullivan
22. Tom Daly

Rigor Mortis

That pack is very strong

irishfan9

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

That pack is very strong

bar the 2nd row

Rigor Mortis

In fairness, for a reserve team competition the second row is just fine

irishfan9

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

In fairness, for a reserve team competition the second row is just fine

both rows are poor irregardless.

stephen_n

irishfan9 wrote: »

both rows are poor irregardless.

Maybe the real Mick Kearney might finally show up, Nagle is a lost cause though.

Squidgy Black

irishfan9 wrote: »

both rows are poor irregardless.

Not too sure about that, both rows are players with a number of caps with the senior team, for a reserves team playing against a Championship side who's rows consist of Premiership rejects and a couple of NZ players, it's more than adequate.

Sam Dickenson is the only standout player for Ealing out of their two rows.

wp_rathead

stephen_n wrote: »

Maybe the real Mick Kearney might finally show up, Nagle is a lost cause though.

Hopefully he sorts his form out
On his day he is solid 2nd Row option but whenever I've seen him recently he has looked pretty lethargic

stephen_n

wp_rathead wrote: »

Hopefully he sorts his form out
On his day he is solid 2nd Row option but whenever I've seen him recently he has looked pretty lethargic

When he first came back, I thought that he was our future at lock, seemed to be exactly what we needed. Since the injuries though, he’s never even come close to that. He still could regain that form, just not sure it will happen at Leinster.

irishfan9

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Not too sure about that, both rows are players with a number of caps with the senior team, for a reserves team playing against a Championship side who's rows consist of Premiership rejects and a couple of NZ players, it's more than adequate.

Sam Dickenson is the only standout player for Ealing out of their two rows.

they are capped at senior.. and? that doesnt make them any good.. kearney/nagle are the equivalent of premiership rejects

they are poor players and leinster need to replace them asap

Squidgy Black

stephen_n wrote: »

When he first came back, I thought that he was our future at lock, seemed to be exactly what we needed. Since the injuries though, he’s never even come close to that. He still could regain that form, just not sure it will happen at Leinster.

He could do with a loan spell to give him a chance to get some proper gametime. Since he's been injured Ryan and Fardy came into the equation. And then he's competing with Molony and Nagle for a spot for the Pro14 games.

Any time he's played he's just looked sloppy and made silly errors.

the perfect ten

Ealing Trailfinders

15 Luke Daniels
14 Seb Stegmann
13 Piers O’Conor
12 Joe Munro
11 James Cordy Redden
10 Shane O’Leary
9 Luke Carter
1 Will Davis
2 Alun Walker
3 Lewis Thiede
4 Sam Dickinson
5 Harry Casson
6 Kieran Murphy
7 Rayn Smid
8 Mark Bright (c)

Replacements:

16 Rhys Lawrence
17 James Gibbons
18 Mark Tampin
19 Oli Curry
20 Dan Temm
21 Calum Waters
22 Peter Lydon

durkadurka

Leinster rugby’s Facebook is streaming this live FYI

Squatter

Very tight match so far; we're trailing 10 - 7 at half time.

Squatter

The Trailfinders are looking home and hosed at 22 - 7 up after 70 minutes.

irishfan9

leinster a were poor. comfortably beaten.

El Vino

Yellow cards killed Leinster, considering the yellow card that wasn't given in the Champions Cup final the one for a deliberate knock on looked very harsh. The Scrum was in a bit of trouble, also what has happened to Adam Byrne thought he might go looking for a bit more work

irishfan9

the scrum was milled, no power, poor second row.

back three struggled under high ball resulting in a lot of knock ons and more scrums..

rinse and repeat.

irishfan9

El Vino wrote: »

Yellow cards killed Leinster, considering the yellow card that wasn't given in the Champions Cup final the one for a deliberate knock on looked very harsh. The Scrum was in a bit of trouble, also what has happened to Adam Byrne thought he might go looking for a bit more work

Byrne is a confidence player, he isn't playing with confidence at the moment.

the perfect ten

irishfan9 wrote: »

the scrum was milled, no power, poor second row.

back three struggled under high ball resulting in a lot of knock ons and more scrums..

rinse and repeat.

Ealing were extremely strong in the scums and I thought the referee was quite generous to Leinster in the first half with some of the resets. In the second half the scrums were pretty much all one way traffic. It was a tribute to the Leinster defence that they didn't lose by more.

foxyladyxx

Leinster A looked rudderless. They are a very poor side. . Apart from a few individual displays they had little to show.

Ayewserious

The Leinster fullback really struggled under the heigh ball

the perfect ten

foxyladyxx wrote: »

Leinster A looked rudderless. They are a very poor side. . Apart from a few individual displays they had little to show.

Because of Ealing's dominance in the scrum Leinster A were starved of good ball and the conditions - a bit like in Bilbao - made running rugby very difficult.

irishfan9

foxyladyxx wrote: »

Leinster A looked rudderless. They are a very poor side. . Apart from a few individual displays they had little to show.

a very poor side that made the final... they had a poor performance.. relax.

the perfect ten

irishfan9 wrote: »

a very poor side that made the final... they had a poor performance.. relax.

I feel you are being a bit harsh. They were up against a very strong Championship side in Ealing who were playing at home and who had a much more settled starting XV. They also played the conditions much better than Leinster A - especially after the interval when they stopped trying to play too much rugby in their own half. Ealing's box-kicking and contesting in the air was also top class.

irishfan9

the perfect ten wrote: »

I feel you are being a bit harsh. They were up against a very strong Championship side in Ealing who were playing at home and who had a much more settled starting XV. They also played the conditions much better than Leinster A - especially after the interval when they stopped trying to play too much rugby in their own half. Ealing's box-kicking and contesting in the air was also top class.

I dont think leinster a are a very poor side.. you dont make a final and be very poor.

stellenbosch

Ayewserious wrote: »

The Leinster fullback really struggled under the heigh ball

Jack Kelly?

irishfan9

stellenbosch wrote: »

Jack Kelly?

Yeah, but all the back three did including Adam Byrne who is usually excellent.

Still Kelly progress to date has been disappointing.

Ayewserious

irishfan9 wrote: »

Yeah, but all the back three did including Adam Byrne who is usually excellent.

Still Kelly progress to date has been disappointing.

Agreed fallen behind in the pecking order, be surprised if he had a future with Leinster

irishfan9

Ayewserious wrote: »

Agreed fallen behind in the pecking order, be surprised if he had a future with Leinster

He is 20, relax.

stellenbosch

irishfan9 wrote: »

He is 20, relax.

Correct