Schools Rugby 2017 2018 Thread SEE MOD WARNING POST #1773

irishfan9

they haven't had decent coaches since the late 90's?

jesus winning that SCT and multiple JCT's must have been a fluke..

not to mention all the players they have developed.

Granny15

irishfan9 wrote: »

they haven't had decent coaches since the late 90's?

jesus winning that SCT and multiple JCT's must have been a fluke..

not to mention all the players they have developed.

I wouldn't rate any of the players they have developed. They strike me as a good upcoming second tier school not a Top 6 school who used to crush the Gonzagas and Gerards of this world. Times have changed and they are rising with the the tide of up and coming second tier schools coming through like Andrews and the likes - not the way I would have it.

irishfan9

Granny15 wrote: »

I wouldn't rate any of the players they have developed. They strike me as a good upcoming second tier school not a Top 6 school who used to crush the Gonzagas and Gerards of this world. Times have changed and they are rising with the the tide of second tier schools coming through like Andrews and the likes - not the way I would have it.

decent attempt at trolling in fairness to you.

Granny15

irishfan9 wrote: »

decent attempt at trolling in fairness to you.

The truth hurts sometimes. I wouldn't hold any hope of them doing well over the coming seasons barring a massive upscale in talent coming through.

FrannoFan

Granny15 wrote: »

I think Emmet McMahon is head SCT coach. Andy Skehan Director of Rugby.

They haven't had decent coaches since the late 90's IMO. Proper authoritarians who stamp their style of play on a team.

McMahon is about 30 years of age and Skehan the same. Skehan wasn't the best player in his day would have been on the thirds teams all the way up but McMahon was on the firsts.

Still you need a disciplinarian at SCT level to get the best out of rebellious teenagers not someone who is going to sing Kumbaya and be their best friend.

hear hear,

bring back Frank Macken and Paul Barr.

irishfan9

James Ryan Try when he was playing SCT.

https://twitter.com/stmcrugby/status/928924914077372417

And at JCT level

https://twitter.com/stmcrugby/status/928624326701699072

Granny15

FrannoFan wrote: »

hear hear,

bring back Frank Macken and Paul Barr.

Not who I was referring to

Granny15

irishfan9 wrote: »

James Ryan Try when he was playing SCT.

https://twitter.com/stmcrugby/status/928924914077372417

And at JCT level

https://twitter.com/stmcrugby/status/928624326701699072

I suppose you'll be on here at Cup time saying we hype ourselves up.

Go support your own school.

irishfan9

Michaels have 10 potential future academy players in their starting side:

1. Jack Boyle
2. Lee Barron
5. Ryan Baird
6. Jody Booth
7. Scott Penny
8. Dan O'Donovan
11. Jeff O'Loughlin
13. David Ryan
14. Andrew Smith
15. Chris Cosgrave

Poor coaching going on there though.

Granny15

irishfan9 wrote: »

Michaels have 10 potential academy players in their starting side:

1. Jack Boyle
2. Lee Barron
5. Ryan Baird
6. Jody Booth
7. Scott Penny
8. Dan O'Donovan
11. Jeff O'Loughlin
13. David Ryan
14. Andrew Smith
15. Chris Cosgrave

Poor coaching going on there though.

As I said go support your own school.

Don't go around hyping up others.

Granny15

On a side note I hear Gonzaga is going Co-ed - any truth in the rumour?

Ruggerhead

irishfan9 wrote: »

couldn't give you a 1-15...

some players i've heard good things on:

Scott Barron(Blackrock/Prop)
JJ Hession(St. Michaels/Backrow)
Donough Lawlor(Newbridge/Backrow)
Daniel Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Outhalf)
Fionn Gibbons(Castelknock/Centre)

Thanks for this, was trying to leave the Blackrocks & St Michael’s of this world out but since you mentioned them... Michael’s as a 2nd row and backrow playing well(think both played JCT last year). A centre for Blackrock and a centre for Newbridge(think plays out half as well sometimes). Sorry don’t know names.

irishfan9

Ruggerhead wrote: »

Thanks for this, was trying to leave the Blackrocks & St Michael’s of this world out but since you mentioned them... Michael’s as a 2nd row and backrow playing well(think both played JCT last year). A centre for Blackrock and a centre for Newbridge(think plays out half as well sometimes). Sorry don’t know names.

think the 2nd row is probably Stephen Woods, started last year for them.

i think Michael Moloney might be the Rock centre, played last year for them.

and Daniel Silke-Fetherston i think is the newbridge centre, open to correction though.

Granny15

irishfan9 wrote: »

think the 2nd row is probably Stephen Woods, started last year for them.

i think Michael Moloney might be the Rock centre.

and Daniel Silke-Fetherston i think is the newbridge centre, open to correction though.

I'd be interested to know what school you represent - other than going around throwing out names and trying to manipulate public opinion - I think it would be a good idea to get that out there.

irishfan9

Granny15 wrote: »

I'd be interested to know what school you represent - other than going around throwing out names and trying to manipulate public opinion - I think it would be a good idea to get that out there.

I don't represent any school.

irishfan9

Best front row in leinster schools rugby - Blackrock or Roscrea? Or other?

Blackrock
1. Donnacha Mescal
2. Sean Molony
3. Thomas Clarkson

Roscrea
1. Josh Wycherley
2. Jerry Cahir
3. Michael Milne

Granny15

irishfan9 wrote: »

I don't represent any school.

Sure you do - just spit it out - was it Rock?

urbanchick

irishfan9 wrote: »

decent attempt at trolling in fairness to you.

Here's a thought granny: maybe, just maybe, the gerards and gonzagas of this world are narrowing the gap between "2nd Tier" and "Top Tier" schools rugby. Your michaels comments are very funny indeed.

FrannoFan

Granny15 wrote: »

I'd be interested to know what school you represent - other than going around throwing out names and trying to manipulate public opinion - I think it would be a good idea to get that out there.

where did you go? Monkstown pretending to be michaels?

I do find it funny when your posts are taken as legit questions

Granny15

urbanchick wrote: »

Here's a thought granny: maybe, just maybe, the gerards and gonzagas of this world are narrowing the gap between "2nd Tier" and "Top Tier" schools rugby. Your michaels comments are very funny indeed.

They are rising on a wave of sympathy from the Communists in Rock. Sure look isn't Conway starting for Ireland this weekend - talk about a fallen idol of schools rugby - he's nowhere near the standard for international rugby.

urbanchick

Granny15 wrote: »

They are rising on a wave of sympathy from the Communists in Rock. Sure look isn't Conway starting for Ireland this weekend - talk about a fallen idol of schools rugby - he's nowhere near the standard for international rugby.

Ah now : don't start on the communists! Is nobody safe from the rath of Granny.

Granny15

urbanchick wrote: »

Ah now : don't start on the communists! Is nobody safe from the rath of Granny.

I better not continue on this or I'll get barred.

Suffice it to say that's an understatement.

Chris hughes25

irishfan9 wrote: »

Best front row in leinster schools rugby - Blackrock or Roscrea? Or other?

Blackrock
1. Donnacha Mescal
2. Sean Molony
3. Thomas Clarkson

Roscrea
1. Josh Wycherley
2. Jerry Cahir
3. Luke Rigney

Michael Milne and Ryan lomas both international u19 th ahead of rigney in roscrea

irishfan9

Chris hughes25 wrote: »

Michael Milne and Ryan lomas both international u19 th ahead of rigney in roscrea

heard Milne was playing 8 this year and Lomas had left the school.

The Lost Sheep

Garbally won Connacht Senior League final during the week beating the Jes 34-7.
Cup draws were also made but havent seen them in full.

Ayewserious

irishfan9 wrote: »

Ruggerhead wrote: »

Who are the stand out players in the Junior league this year? 1 through 15

couldn't give you a 1-15...

some players i've heard good things on:

Scott Barron(Blackrock/Prop)
JJ Hession(St. Michaels/Backrow)
Donough Lawlor(Newbridge/Backrow)
Daniel Hawkshaw(Belvedere/Outhalf)
Fionn Gibbons(Castelknock/Centre)

Scott Barron is the best player at jct level

urbanchick

Ayewserious wrote: »

Scott Barron is the best player at jct level

Gibbons and Hawkshaw best players by far

Zzippy

Mod: Posts deleted. DO NOT post personal info about players, particularly young players.

Ally Bren 92

belvedere beat pres cork 15-10

irishfan9

Michaels SCT defeated Crescent 31-7.

1. Jack Boyle(4th)
2. Ben Gannon(5th)
3. Fionn Finlay(5th)
4. Jack Guinane(4th)
5. Hugh McGovern(5th)
6. Conor Booth(4th)
7. Will Hickey(4th)
8. Ryan Baird(6th)
9. Des McCarthy(6th)
10. Jay Barron(6th)
11. Robbie Griffin(5th)
12. Simon O'Kelly(4th)
13. Elliot Harran(6th)
14. Mark O'Brien(5th)
15. Eddie Kelly(4th)
16. Pierce Feeney(6th)
17. Ben Victory(5th)
18. James Power(4th)
19. Luke Dunne(5th)
20. Danny Fehily
21. Jeffrey Woods(4th)
22. Charlie Greally(5th)
23. Zach Harrison(4th)

Michaels JCT defeated Crescent 52-8

irishfan9

Michaels SCT play Blackrock on Saturday

Stevie777

irishfan9 wrote: »

Michaels SCT play Blackrock on Saturday

Where and when is the game on?

Therajman

Stevie777 wrote: »

Where and when is the game on?

10:15am Blackrock Lawn pitch

omb0wyn5ehpij9

Does anybody know when the Leinster Senior Cup draw is? And if the final is going to be on the Monday of the bank holiday weekend (the 19th)?

The Lost Sheep

BDJW wrote: »

Does anybody know when the Leinster Senior Cup draw is? And if the final is going to be on the Monday of the bank holiday weekend (the 19th)?

schools senior cup draw not going to be made for a few weeks. It is never made until league is finished group stage as qualifiers from that have to be decided.

urbanchick

Interesting league results today :

Pres Bray 3. Gonzaga 7 : have pres improved that much or are gonzaga not as strong as last year?

Roscrea 23. Andrews 16 again tight enough game

milosh

urbanchick wrote: »

Interesting league results today :

Pres Bray 3. Gonzaga 7 : have pres improved that much or are gonzaga not as strong as last year?

Roscrea 23. Andrews 16 again tight enough game

Pres have improved that much. A new coaching team and some very strong Junior teams in the past few years meant they were always going to be good if they could keep them playing beyond Juniors.

Throwinking

I see Templeogue were beaten by East Glendalough today in the McMullen cup. Glendalough only had 14 players and played through parts of the game with 12 players due to yellow cards and injuries. Great win for them

irishfan9

Throwinking wrote: »

I see Templeogue were beaten by East Glendalough today in the McMullen cup. Glendalough only had 14 players and played through parts of the game with 12 players due to yellow cards and injuries. Great win for them

Ogue have fallen way off

The Lost Sheep

Ulster medallion shield opening rounds have been drawn.
opening 2 rounds for ulster Senior schools cup draw is monday

http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/16740.php#.WgyhVruDPIU

urbanchick

milosh wrote: »

Pres have improved that much. A new coaching team and some very strong Junior teams in the past few years meant they were always going to be good if they could keep them playing beyond Juniors.

Good on them!

irishfan9

edit think i'm wrong

FellasFellas

irishfan9 wrote: »

Pres were missing potentially their best player too in Ben Murphy.

Was O'Gara playing and which position?

irishfan9

FellasFellas wrote: »

Was O'Gara playing and which position?

I believe he was playing 12, Elliot Ryan at 10.

Gavin4

In fairness to Pres they are a much better unit this year as shown against Roscrea in particular but also against Gonzaga who are both good teams and playing well.

Game was very close but Pres didn't really threaten the try line too much but this will come. Good halfbacks and big forwards.

Gonzaga are sneaking in under the radar somewhat and produced a tough away win yesterday while missing up to 4/5 frontliners

urbanchick

Gavin4 wrote: »

In fairness to Pres they are a much better unit this year as shown against Roscrea in particular but also against Gonzaga who are both good teams and playing well.

Game was very close but Pres didn't really threaten the try line too much but this will come. Good halfbacks and big forwards.

Gonzaga are sneaking in under the radar somewhat and produced a tough away win yesterday while missing up to 4/5 frontliners

Gonzaga sneaking in under radar: charging ahead I would say!

irishfan9

who is gonzaga's 9/10?

Gavin4

irishfan9 wrote: »

who is gonzaga's 9/10?

As far I know that is a problem area for them and with so many injuries they have never settled on any combination 9/10 despite having played all their qualification league matches

irishfan9

Gavin4 wrote: »

As far I know that is a problem area for them and with so many injuries they have never settled on any combination 9/10 despite having played all their qualification league matches

will be there downfall.. had two very good players there last year

irishfan9

Michaels SCT side for Blackrock game tomorrow:

1. Jack Boyle(4th)
2. Lee Barron(4th)
3. Fionn Finlay(5th)
4. Jonathan Fish(5th)
5. Matt Healy(6th)
6. Jody Booth(6th)
7. Scott Penny(6th)
8. Dan O'Donovan(6th)
9. Rob Gilsenan(5th)
10. David Moran(6th)
11. Jeff O'Loughlin(6th)
12. Jay Barron(6th)
13. David Ryan(6th)
14. Mark O'Brien(5th)
15. Chris Cosgrave(4th)
16. Pierce Feeney(6th)
17. Ben Victory(5th)
18. Adam Peat(6th)
19. Will Hickey(4th)
20. Jack Guinane(4th)
21. Des McCarthy(6th)
22. Eliot Harran(6th)
23. Eddie Kelly(4th)

Missing players: Ryan Baird, Chris Hennessy, Andrew Smith.