Schools Rugby 2017 2018 Thread SEE MOD WARNING POST #1773

irishfan9

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Liam McMahon also

They cant all be injured..

Noscrumnowin

irishfan9 wrote: »

They cant all be injured..

Well they’ve hardly moved to Mars

Noscrumnowin

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Well they’ve hardly moved to Mars

Let’s just hope we don’t have a case as in Tommy O’Briens year when there were underage internationals watching from the bench during the cup due to injuries.

Noscrumnowin

Ayewserious wrote: »

That seems like there second team + Liam turner..? Rock not wanting to show their best hand in preseason

Update O’Brien out as well and there are 10 starters injured that’s just how it goes I suppose, shame but when you play the two other real competitors in the cup in two weeks you can probably expect a few injuries.

Ally Bren 92

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Well they’ve hardly moved to Mars

Gas man

Ayewserious

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Update O’Brien out as well and there are 10 starters injured that’s just how it goes I suppose, shame but when you play the two other real competitors in the cup in two weeks you can probably expect a few injuries.

You don't expect that many to be fair.. Many fourt years involved?

RugbyRugby2016

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Ayewserious wrote: »

That seems like there second team + Liam turner..? Rock not wanting to show their best hand in preseason

Update O’Brien out as well and there are 10 starters injured that’s just how it goes I suppose, shame but when you play the two other real competitors in the cup in two weeks you can probably expect a few injuries.

Anyone know if Gavin Jones is involved this year?

haven’t heard anything about him after making the squad as a 4th year last year

Noscrumnowin

RugbyRugby2016 wrote: »

Anyone know if Gavin Jones is involved this year?

haven’t heard anything about him after making the squad as a 4th year last year

Got injured in the warmup for the Palmerston North Boys high game

Noscrumnowin

Ayewserious wrote: »

You don't expect that many to be fair.. Many fourt years involved?

2 & 3 in Fourth year

Noscrumnowin

Belvo 15 - 7 Rock
Result as expected considering the amount of injuries rock have.

Sudolife

Rock missing a lot of players, Donncha Mescal came on and made big impact.
Belvo were on top for most of the time game, scored a lovely try with 10 mins to go.

Ayewserious

Sudolife wrote: »

Rock missing a lot of players, Donncha Mescal came on and made big impact.
Belvo were on top for most of the time game, scored a lovely try with 10 mins to go.

Standouts for belvo?

irishfan9

Mescal will be a bolter

Sudolife

Hawkshaw, Byron, Sam Barry & Ted Walsh all very good

Noscrumnowin

irishfan9 wrote: »

Mescal will be a bolter

Cian Duffy also a very good player, Mescal not as much of a shoe in as everyone on here believes

Granny15

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Belvedere at home. Terenure PBC Cork, Clongowes Rockwell and Michaels Marys also on this weekend

Any word on these results?

Purist98

Michaels won 30-21 with what was essentially a 2nds side

irishfan9

Purist98 wrote: »

Michaels won 30-21 with what was essentially a 2nds side

Looks a total 2nd side to me, bar Smith

1. Adam Peat
2. Pierce Feeney
3. Fionn Finlay
4. Luke Dunne
5. Luke Fehily
6. Hugh McGovern
7. Ian Walsh
8. Will Hickey
9. Des McCarthy
10. Jay Barron
11. Andrew Smith
12. Simon O'Kelly
13. Eliot Haran
14. Mark Earle
15. Eddie Kelly

Purist98

irishfan9 wrote: »

Looks a total 2nd side to me, bar Smith

1. Adam Peat
2. Pierce Feeney
3. Fionn Finlay
4. Luke Dunne
5. Luke Fehily
6. Hugh McGovern
7. Ian Walsh
8. Will Hickey
9. Des McCarthy
10. Jay Barron
11. Andrew Smith
12. Simon O'Kelly
13. Eliot Haran
14. Mark Earle
15. Eddie Kelly

Front rows there will sub cup probably, so will Hickey, Barron will start 12, Haran might be 22, McCarthy probably 21 but maybe 9

Losty Dublin

Sudolife wrote: »

Rock missing a lot of players, Donncha Mescal came on and made big impact.
Belvo were on top for most of the time game, scored a lovely try with 10 mins to go.

Belvedere were missing several players as well. Rock's seconds were playing Belvo at the same time and only fielded 4 subs; the injury crisis must be hitting them hard.

Ayewserious

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Cian Duffy also a very good player, Mescal not as much of a shoe in as everyone on here believes

Where will fitzgibbion start come cup time? Are any of these injuries long term?

Noscrumnowin

Ayewserious wrote: »

Where will fitzgibbion start come cup time? Are any of these injuries long term?

Fitzgibbon our with broken finger and could start 10 or wing and they’re all due to be back by Cup but we’ll have to see

Granny15

Purist98 wrote: »

Michaels won 30-21 with what was essentially a 2nds side

Any word on the Terenure or Clongowes results

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Draw for the Leinster cups will be done on December 11th

C3PO

BDJW wrote: »

Draw for the Leinster cups will be done on December 11th

Seniors and Juniors?

Ayewserious

C3PO wrote: »

Seniors and Juniors?

Yes

The Lost Sheep

Granny15 wrote: »

Probably there C's.

Which would make you wonder - if their players are rested and don't put the work in from 1st to 6th year why should they be given preference when selecting professional players as was the case for so long. Surely the players who have bled for the Irish jersey should be selected before the ones wrapped in cotton wool?

wasn't their C's
They don't "rest" players though. Rotate them in games to give as many games in first xv but don't exactly wrap the players in cotton woll

C3PO wrote: »

Seniors and Juniors?

Both always made together.

Granny15

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

wasn't their C's
They don't "rest" players though. Rotate them in games to give as many games in first xv but don't exactly wrap the players in cotton woll

Both always made together.

you have to admit their friendly results are not indicative of their cup results. I think it is more than rotation more a cunning on behalf of their coaches

The Lost Sheep

Granny15 wrote: »

you have to admit their friendly results are not indicative of their cup results. I think it is more than rotation more a cunning on behalf of their coaches

Seeing them play enough yeah its just rotation and giving kids games especially as they dont play in any other SCT/1st XV competitions.

Anyway 1A league quarters in leinster this week as well as semis in 1B.
Leagues all finishing up and isnt it just Leinster opening round draw to be made with rest having been made??

Rugby boi

Standout league q.f tomorrow (seniors) roscrea and castleknock in roscrea

Noscrumnowin

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Belvedere were missing several players as well. Rock's seconds were playing Belvo at the same time and only fielded 4 subs; the injury crisis must be hitting them hard.

22 from the senior squad injured

RugbyRugby2016

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Belvedere were missing several players as well. Rock's seconds were playing Belvo at the same time and only fielded 4 subs; the injury crisis must be hitting them hard.

22 from the senior squad injured

Remember a similar injury situation back when Blackrock last spent the summer on tour down to New Zealand.

Might be a coincidence or maybe players should be rested during the summer rather than playing games on tour.

Noscrumnowin

RugbyRugby2016 wrote: »

Remember a similar injury situation back when Blackrock last spent the summer on tour down to New Zealand.

Might be a coincidence or maybe players should be rested during the summer rather than playing games on tour.

They had little to no pre season so sufficient rest was gained I believe

irishfan9

Lets see what team is put out in the cup.. everything before that is irrelevant

Losty Dublin

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

22 from the senior squad injured

That's almost a whole squad load :eek:

irishfan9

Losty Dublin wrote: »

That's almost a whole squad load :eek:

I doubt all 22 are serious injuries

The Lost Sheep

irishfan9 wrote: »

Lets see what team is put out in the cup.. everything before that is irrelevant

Shame thats the case.
Should be more to play for/focus on for all sides than just the cup

Some of the Connacht cups start tomorrow.
Jes Bish juniors playing in Laurel Park Newcastle probably tie of the day

irishfan9

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Shame thats the case.
Should be more to play for/focus on for all sides than just the cup

Yes as youve said repeatedly..

Granny15

irishfan9 wrote: »

Lets see what team is put out in the cup.. everything before that is irrelevant

Not insofar as trials are expected.

Lot to play for if it's an interpro/schools international.

I understand some schools don't put as much into producing players for trials

Granny15

St.Michaels SCT to play Terenure this Friday night.

irishfan9

Granny15 wrote: »

Not insofar as trials are expected.

Lot to play for if it's an interpro/schools international.

I understand some schools don't put as much into producing players for trials

Trials are irrelevant to schools cup

Ayewserious

irishfan9 wrote: »

Trials are irrelevant to schools cup

Important to player development tho..

Ayewserious

Some lesser known players who could have big cup campaigns
Michael McGath ( rock)
Donnacha mescal (rock)
Ted Walsh (belvo
John Martin ( clongowes)
Dominic Henry Hayes (ternure)

irishfan9

Ayewserious wrote: »

Important to player development tho..

Not really talking about that tho..

When it comes down to how well blackrock will perform in the cup.. preseason games will have little bearing

irishfan9

Ayewserious wrote: »

Some lesser known players who could have big cup campaigns
Michael McGath ( rock)
Donnacha mescal (rock)
Ted Walsh (belvo
John Martin ( clongowes)
Dominic Henry Hayes (ternure)

Who is john martin and what position does he play?

Ally Bren 92

irishfan9 wrote: »

Who is john martin and what position does he play?

Matthew Martin maybe

Granny15

irishfan9 wrote: »

Not really talking about that tho..

When it comes down to how well blackrock will perform in the cup.. preseason games will have little bearing

They are an indicator tho - unless the team puts absolutely nothing into them like some schools we know. Cunning.

irishfan9

Granny15 wrote: »

They are an indicator tho - unless the team puts absolutely nothing into them like some schools we know. Cunning.

They arent.. just look at michaels.. they are always the form team based on preseason results..

In terms of favourite to win the cup they mean little

Granny15

irishfan9 wrote: »

They arent.. just look at michaels.. they are always the form team based on preseason results..

In terms of favourite to win the cup they mean little

But they have produced a disproportionate amount of professionals.

Therefore it is an indicator. - maybe not for performance in the Cup but as to the health of rugby in that school.

I'm for results in the Cup being the be all and end all - I just think there's more to winning cups than keeping quiet for 6 years and then showing up on the day of your Cup matches at SCT.

irishfan9

Newbridge defeated Pres Bray 17-15