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irishfan9

Ayewserious wrote: »

Don't right belvo off they'll improve

without hawkshaw they dont have a chance..

even with him they need to get barry etc back to compete

Stephen Hawkins football boots

irishfan9 wrote: »

without hawkshaw they dont have a chance..

even with him they need to get barry etc back to compete

As long as they are in the cup they have a chance

FrannoFan

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Good finish to the game but shocking standard

I hate this attitude of because it isn't pro standard it is "shocking " it is a children's amateur game!
It was a decent standard and entertaining. Enough errors to make it good. Sub hooker on for belvo meant lineout was a bit Shaky.

Gonzaga 9 was good. As well as 10

Hard to pick stand outs from belvo. Big pack. 6 looked good. Solid defensively in general.

Belvo didn't look like cup winners but as pointed out missing starters

irishfan9

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

As long as they are in the cup they have a chance

well yes everyone still in the cup has a chance

irishfan9

zaga always have a good 9

he is back next year afaik

The Lost Sheep

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Good finish to the game but shocking standard

But harsh to say shocking standard no?

irishfan9 wrote: »

wish they had a similar structure to munster and zaga had a 2nd chance..

for anyone who attended who played well today?

Would be far better especially as the players season now over and January not finished yet.

irishfan9

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

But harsh to say shocking standard no?

Would be far better especially as the players season now over and January not finished yet.

is there not a plate competition?

The Lost Sheep

irishfan9 wrote: »

is there not a plate competition?

There is something but many dont compete in it. Its given no coverage and support compared to cup

FrannoFan

irishfan9 wrote: »

is there not a plate competition?

There is a plate but it isn't run properly and ends up a mess. Games take ages to be played certain teams don't enter etc

Bacliner

FrannoFan wrote: »

I hate this attitude of because it isn't pro standard it is "shocking " it is a children's amateur game!
It was a decent standard and entertaining. Enough errors to make it good. Sub hooker on for belvo meant lineout was a bit Shaky.

Gonzaga 9 was good. As well as 10

Hard to pick stand outs from belvo. Big pack. 6 looked good. Solid defensively in general.

Belvo didn't look like cup winners but as pointed out missing starters

“Shocking standards” when big 6 don’t run away with a win, no one on this board is giving kudos to Zaga for putting it up to them.....posters here don’t like to think the so called second tier schools are closing in on the precious Big 6......zaga,Roscrea,gerards and knock have upped their games massively, as zaga demonstrated in today’s score line. Missing starters, boo hoo, all schools have to deal with same.

Chico Flores

Hawkshaw dislocated his shoulder.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Chico Flores wrote: »

Hawkshaw dislocated his shoulder.

Unfortunate , that's about 12 week recovery

Union123

Not the best standard of rugby from both sides but gonzaga were definitely better than I expected them to be so fair play to the lads. Their 10 and 12 were standouts. Belvo's backrow are dangerous. Try scorer Coleman has an outstanding workrate. Quality was poor from majority of team

Union123

Chico Flores wrote: »

Hawkshaw dislocated his shoulder.

Yea I was talking to belvedere physio after the game and he said "dislocated, he won't be playing again"

Noscrumnowin

Heard it was his elbow not his shoulder

Chico Flores

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Heard it was his elbow not his shoulder

Shoulder. 100%

Noscrumnowin

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/holders-belvedere-make-heavy-work-of-seeing-off-gonzaga-1.3371465?mode=amp

Gavin4

Competitive game - very tense and enjoyable - either side could have won
6,8,9 for belvo and 9,10 , 13 with some fabulous defensive trackles and plays, were the standouts imo

quote="Chico Flores;105977783"]Shoulder. 100%[/quote]

Ppppppp

Any word on the Terenure team?

irishfan9

Belvo 6 - Gerard Hill
Belvo 8 - Ruadhan Byron
Belvo 9 - Ted Walsh

Zaga 9 - Jack Connolly
Zaga 10 - Eoin Barr
Zaga 12 - Arthur Henry
Zaga 13 - Brian O'Donnell

Inspector Coptoor

Bacliner wrote: »

“Shocking standards” when big 6 don’t run away with a win, no one on this board is giving kudos to Zaga for putting it up to them.....posters here don’t like to think the so called second tier schools are closing in on the precious Big 6......zaga,Roscrea,gerards and knock have upped their games massively, as zaga demonstrated in today’s score line. Missing starters, boo hoo, all schools have to deal with same.

Boohoo when 40% of a team are out injured?
2,5,8,10,12,11?
Including a guy with 2 x senior cup medals in his back pocket already, who captained Leinster 19s and has played for ireland?
Seriously?
All you can say is boo hoo?


Gonzaga deserve massive credit for what they achieved today putting it up to Belvo.


Today was their golden opportunity to take a big scalp and they came up just short.

They were ferocious at the breakdown in defence, secured outrageously fast ball at Ruck Time, tried to play an expansive game and almost scored from a couple of crosfield kicks.

irishfan9

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Boohoo when 40% of a team are out injured?
2,5,8,10,12,11?
Including a guy with 2 x senior cup medals in his back pocket already, who captained Leinster 19s and has played for ireland?
Seriously?
All you can say is boo hoo?


Gonzaga deserve massive credit for what they achieved today putting it up to Belvo.


Today was their golden opportunity to take a big scalp and they came up just short.

They were ferocious at the breakdown in defence, secured outrageously fast ball at Ruck Time, tried to play an expansive game and almost scored from a couple of crosfield kicks.

2- ?
5- ?
8-?
10- Hawkshaw?
11- Barry?
12- Mulvainey?

The Lost Sheep

Chico Flores wrote: »

Hawkshaw dislocated his shoulder.

Unfortunate. At least he'll likely be playing next season in club rugby. How many other of his fellow 6th years wont be?

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Boohoo when 40% of a team are out injured?
2,5,8,10,12,11?
Including a guy with 2 x senior cup medals in his back pocket already, who captained Leinster 19s and has played for ireland?
Seriously?
All you can say is boo hoo?

Gonzaga deserve massive credit for what they achieved today putting it up to Belvo.

Today was their golden opportunity to take a big scalp and they came up just short.

They were ferocious at the breakdown in defence, secured outrageously fast ball at Ruck Time, tried to play an expansive game and almost scored from a couple of crosfield kicks.

Injuries are natural part of game. Always is high enough proportion of a squad of 30 or so out injured at one time anyway.

Inspector Coptoor

2- ? Harmon off after 10 mins Today
5- ? James Murphy
8-? Harry beggy - JCT captain 3 years ago
10- Hawkshaw? Yes, off after 30 mins today
11- Barry? Yes
12- Mulvainey? Yes

Inspector Coptoor

Chico Flores wrote: »

Shoulder. 100%

It’s not his shoulder.
Elbow

Needs a scan to see if there’s damage done.

irishfan9

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

2- ? Harmon off after 10 mins Today
5- ? James Murphy
8-? Harry beggy - JCT captain 3 years ago
10- Hawkshaw? Yes, off after 30 mins today
11- Barry? Yes
12- Mulvainey? Yes

beggy was hardy going to start at 8 over byron was he?

Inspector Coptoor

irishfan9 wrote: »

beggy was hardy going to start at 8 over byron was he?

He was.
Byron would have been 6.

thebaz

good game - ridiculous to say poor standard - game had everything you would expect from what is amateur schools - lots of tension in a game of 2 halves - zaga will be kicking themselves , Belvos no. 8 man of match - zaga could have won it in the end if they had a bit more pace. overall Two even teams. Thats the horror or beuty of the cup , only one winner. Like many, i know what horrible that defeat tastes like.

irishfan9

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

He was.
Byron would have been 6.

interesting.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

2- ? Harmon off after 10 mins Today
5- ? James Murphy
8-? Harry beggy - JCT captain 3 years ago
10- Hawkshaw? Yes, off after 30 mins today
11- Barry? Yes
12- Mulvainey? Yes

Of all those players injured what is the drop off in talent like with the replacements? Is there a huge gulf? If so no chance for Belvo this year especially if none will be back

C3PO

It's early in the tournament but, on yesterdays form, Belvo didn't strike me as a likely "cup winning" team! It will be interesting to see Michael's today.

Noscrumnowin

Predictions for today?
Would love if Terenure could produce an upset but Michaels will just be too strong Michaels by 10-15

C3PO

Apologies if this has been posted already but I only came across it today and it makes interesting reading!

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/schools-rugby/two-or-three-per-cent-of-each-year-go-professional-at-the-moment-how-one-school-has-become-irish-rugbys-biggest-production-line-36482484.html

The Lost Sheep

C3PO wrote: »

Apologies if this has been posted already but I only came across it today and it makes interesting reading!

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/schools-rugby/two-or-three-per-cent-of-each-year-go-professional-at-the-moment-how-one-school-has-become-irish-rugbys-biggest-production-line-36482484.html

Been discussed already but would be more interesting to see what % are still playing one year on from finishing school as well as four/five years on.
Numbers going pro is fantastic but numbers continuing to play on at any level is more important

Tarf1234

Thought yesterday was a pretty poor game. Large periods with not very much happening. Belvo the better side but looked almost undercooked. Impressed with Byron, Lacy, Hill and Walsh from Belvo.

irishfan9

Tarf1234 wrote: »

Thought yesterday was a pretty poor game. Large periods with not very much happening. Belvo the better side but looked almost undercooked. Impressed with Byron, Lacy, Hill and Walsh from Belvo.

anyone from gonzga impress you?

Tarf1234

irishfan9 wrote: »

anyone from gonzga impress you?

Thought the half backs were good and the 2 centres looked decent too.
Was focusing more on the Belvo guys to be honest.

Bigwin60

Any news on terenure side, predicting Micheals win but fell they might stuggle with nure backs big time. Micheals by 10.

6elieve

Bigwin60 wrote: »

Any news on terenure side, predicting Micheals win but fell they might stuggle with nure backs big time. Micheals by 10.

Henry Hayes not playing . Massive blow

irishfan9

6elieve wrote: »

Henry Hayes not playing . Massive blow

so both sides missing first choice 10?

Fox90

Looks like Mcinnes missing too

The Nal

Is the Nure/Michaels game streaming anywhere? Not on TV I know.

irishfan9

The Nal wrote: »

Is this streaming anywhere? Not on TV I know.

doubtful

6elieve

irishfan9 wrote: »

so both sides missing first choice 10?

Henry Hayes would’ve been 12 for nure , Jamie Devlin first choice 10. And yes Mcginiss out aswell

irishfan9

6elieve wrote: »

Henry Hayes would’ve been 12 for nure , Jamie Devlin first choice 10. And yes Mcginiss out aswell

thanks.

so terenure missing starting centres?

Bigwin60

So any terenure team sheet ??

6elieve

irishfan9 wrote: »

thanks.

so terenure missing starting centres?

La Grue is playing

irishfan9

6elieve wrote: »

La Grue is playing

Where would mcinnes have been playing if healthy? the wing?

6elieve

irishfan9 wrote: »

Where would mcinnes have been playing if healthy? the wing?

If both him and Henry Hayes were fit he’d of been on the wing yeah

Not a bad backline aye ?

irishfan9

6elieve wrote: »

If both him and Henry Hayes were fit he’d of been on the wing yeah

Not a bad backline aye ?

well i'm guessing it here at the moment..

9. George Moran
10. Jamie Devlin
11. ?
12. Dominic Henry Hayes - OUT
13. Adam La Grue
14. Ross McInnes - OUT
15. Sam Dardis

Good backline, but everyone knows they have that.. the pack is the problem..