Schools Rugby 2017 2018 Thread SEE MOD WARNING POST #1773

irishfan9

D14Rugby wrote: »

You could say yearly underperformance but when was the last time a non big 6 school knocked Terenure out? There was Roscrea in Tallaght but none since then and none for a while before then so its not as if they're being beaten by league teams on a yearly basis.
And the lack of top end production is debatable, the club team are second in the AIL and you could count on one hand the players in the panel that didn't go to the school, then youve the odd academy player they produce.
You got to consider today they were missing 2 very good leinster reps and they weren't out played, they are producing good rugby players, they just seem to be a bit smaller than their competition in recent years which has been their downfall.
If Terenure dropped to the league then in my opinion gaa would take over, the club would suffer too and it would be a downward spiral, it's a lull jusr now, it happens.

why would playing league rugby cause the gaa to take over?

irishfan9

back to todays game..

howd dardis do?

6elieve

irishfan9 wrote: »

back to todays game..

howd dardis do?

Thought he was good , very solid under the high ball .

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I dont see how GAA would necessarily take over if terenure dropped to the league. What makes you think that?

GAA is already a growing sport in the school, which might i point out is a good thing, kids should be exposed to as many sports as possible i think, but it'll never over take rugby just now because Terenure is a "rugby school" and they're told from day dot about the history of the teams and how they're a big 6 school and are there by hard work and determination and that every year should hold up the tradition of being one of if not the best in leinster.
Then to suddenly drop them into the league one of two things would probably happen, i think, you'd see the school push back and really invest in rugby and come out like a wounded animal in the years after or you'd see the school go okay and pupils wouldn't have all the historical reasons to pick rugby over gaa so some would go there instead of playing both or just rugby. Of those two considering that Terenure aren't awash with money and know how schools rugby works, the second would happen.
But thats just my thinking and obviously it's all hypothetical.

D14Rugby

Is the backrower Cooke(?) for Terenure a 5th or 6th year?

irishfan9

D14Rugby wrote: »

Is the backrower Cooke(?) for Terenure a 5th or 6th year?

5th i think

D14Rugby

irishfan9 wrote: »

5th i think

Looks a good player

irishfan9

D14Rugby wrote: »

Looks a good player

was in ireland schools side at christmas

Ayewserious

irishfan9 wrote: »

des berry name checked David Ryan, Scott Penny and Ryan Baird on twitter.

Thought you left twitter?

MDunne14

Ayewserious wrote: »

Thought you left twitter?

Mr O’Leary hasn’t left twitter just has set up shop on another page that pretends to oppose the page he once ran

Marcdunne

Really looking forward to st Fintans vs st Gerard’s..Gerard’s are looking very strong with a lot of strength and depth but can Fintans defy all odds and cause an upset?

Rugbyf565

Any opinions on Blackrock vs Castleknock tomorrow? Some people on this thread seem to back Castleknock as slight dark horses but personally I can't see it. Knock haven't beaten a top 6 this year and lost quite badly on one or two occasions to League opposition.

D14Rugby

Rugbyf565 wrote: »

Any opinions on Blackrock vs Castleknock tomorrow? Some people on this thread seem to back Castleknock as slight dark horses but personally I can't see it. Knock haven't beaten a top 6 this year and lost quite badly on one or two occasions to League opposition.

My options just that it's cup rugby and anything can happen. I'd take rock to win but I wouldn't be overly surprised to see a knock win

6elieve

Rugbyf565 wrote: »

Any opinions on Blackrock vs Castleknock tomorrow? Some people on this thread seem to back Castleknock as slight dark horses but personally I can't see it. Knock haven't beaten a top 6 this year and lost quite badly on one or two occasions to League opposition.

Rock will thrash them

GavMan

D14Rugby wrote: »

My options just that it's cup rugby and anything can happen. I'd take rock to win but I wouldn't be overly surprised to see a knock win

I'm sorry but it would be a massive surprise to see knock beat Rock tomorrow. I know their analyst and follow their results and they don't have the body of work behind them to suggest they will topple Rock.

Trouble them? Perhaps...This is Knock's final so they should be hugely up for it. Beat them...Nope.

Bacliner

GavMan wrote: »

I'm sorry but it would be a massive surprise to see knock beat Rock tomorrow. I know their analyst and follow their results and they don't have the body of work behind them to suggest they will topple Rock.

Trouble them? Perhaps...This is Knock's final so they should be hugely up for it. Beat them...Nope.

Who’s their analyst then?

GavMan

Bacliner wrote: »

Who’s their analyst then?

Mike Aughey

Rugbyfan266

irishfan9 wrote: »

explains cup performance but not lack of academy prospects or ireland underage players.

adam lagrue, sam dardis both prospects in the coming years

irishfan9

Rugbyfan266 wrote: »

adam lagrue, sam dardis both prospects in the coming years

past 5 years very little in terms of prospects...

dardis best hope.

Ally Bren 92

Who impressed from today's game?

irishfan9

blackrock should win well enough today... might be close until half time though

irishfan9

starters returning next season for Terenure:

Levi Vaughan(LH Prop)
Sam McCoy(TH Prop)
Aaron Deegan(Second Row)
Jack Townsend(Backrow)
Jack Cooke(Backrow)
George Morgan(Scrumhalf)

Plus Ross McInnes(Centre) who was missing yesterday.

Quint2010

Not surprised by yesterdays results. Michaels are essentially a Leinster sub sub-academy. I dont think Terenure are really that bothered by cup rugby anymore.

irishfan9

Quint2010 wrote: »

Not surprised by yesterdays results. Michaels are essentially a Leinster sub sub-academy. I dont think Terenure are really that bothered by cup rugby anymore.

why not?

Quint2010

irishfan9 wrote: »

why not?

Im not sure. I think GAA has come on a lot in the school and taken from numbers players rugby. It was never mandetory to play rugby in Terenure so the GAA thing puts more pressure on. Plus I dont think the principal in the school currently has a huge interest in it-which is reflected in the very small numbers that actually go to games from the school. Back in the day huge numbers would turn up and support. Not so much these days.

Teferi

Quint2010 wrote: »

Im not sure. I think GAA has come on a lot in the school and taken from numbers players rugby. It was never mandetory to play rugby in Terenure so the GAA thing puts more pressure on. Plus I dont think the principal in the school currently has a huge interest in it-which is reflected in the very small numbers that actually go to games from the school. Back in the day huge numbers would turn up and support. Not so much these days.

Eanna loves rugby, and it is (or was) mandatory to play rugby in 1st and 2nd year.

THFC198

Would love if anyone at the game today could update similarly to what was done for the first two games

irishfan9

Blackrock: S Madigan; L McMahon, L Turner (capt), T Maher, H Donnelly; J Tarrant, R Barron; D Mescal, S Molony, T Clarkson, S O’Brien, J Stapleton, J Burke, J Dixon, M McGagh.

Castleknock: B Culliton; D Turley, M Gerhardt, J McGaley (capt), L McMenamin; C Egenton, C Neville; S Picard, E Chester, S Callinan, M Mellet, C O’Flynn, C McCarrick, A Corcoran, C Clancy

RugbyRugby2016

Does anyone know if, other than Ed Brennan are there any other Blackrock players missing through injury?

Is Gavin Jones back from injury and just not selected?

irishfan9

Rory Madigan is a late change in for Liam McMahon.

irishfan9

RugbyRugby2016 wrote: »

Does anyone know if, other than Ed Brennan are there any other Blackrock players missing through injury?

Is Gavin Jones back from injury and just not selected?

Brennan is anyway.

C3PO

Rock 5 - 0 after 3 min!

Union123

Updates on today's game would be appreciated again if anyone can

irishfan9

TRY: Blackrock Col by unidentifiable person from a maul, Stephen Madigan converts for 7-0 in the 4th minute.

C3PO

Knock penalty 5-3

Sudolife

5-3 Rock

Sudolife

Rock try, 10-3

C3PO

Rock straight back up for a try! Missed conversion. 10-3

irishfan9

another try for Rock this time off a 5m scrum. Another conversion goes wide making it BC 10-3 CC after 13m

Sudolife

No 4 with another rock try, 17-3

C3PO

And another one! This doesn’t look good for Knock! 17-3 after 15

irishfan9

Rock number 4 under the posts for try number 3 BC 17-3 CC 14m gone

irishfan9

Try Castleknock a kind of quarterback sneak jumping over the ruck to get in down...the conversion was good leaving it a tantalising 17-10 to Rock at half time

Sudolife

17-17
All castleknock atm

Sudolife

20-20
47 gone

Sudolife

Rock try,
27-20

Inspector Coptoor

37-20 now

omb0wyn5ehpij9

46-20 full time score

GavMan

BDJW wrote: »

46-20 full time score

Put on serious after burners in the last 25mins by the looks of it

Noscrumnowin

Rock burst into the game then knock shook them but instinct kicked in and they just cruised away, motm imo Mcgagh