Schools Rugby 2017 2018 Thread SEE MOD WARNING POST #1773

C3PO

Bridge93 wrote: »

Yeah Foley best player on the pitch by a mile

He was great but Baxter’s work rate was astonishing too!

C3PO

Bridge93 wrote: »

Yeah Foley best player on the pitch by a mile

He was great but Baxter’s work rate was astonishing too!

6elieve

simplyafan wrote: »

Is he 9 or 12 for Ireland?

9

MDunne14

Michaels don’t have the backline to pump Blackrock and Blackrock will match them up front especially if they get Brennan back , don’t be too quick to burn the Blackrock 10 few bad descions but after all he did kick 3 penalties and a drop goal

MDunne14

Michaels don’t have the backline to pump Blackrock and Blackrock will match them up front especially if they get Brennan back , don’t be too quick to burn the Blackrock 10 few bad descions but after all he did kick 3 penalties and a drop goal

Bridge93

He didn't kick the drop goal it was Madigan at 15

6elieve

MDunne14 wrote: »

Michaels don’t have the backline to pump Blackrock and Blackrock will match them up front especially if they get Brennan back , don’t be too quick to burn the Blackrock 10 few bad descions but after all he did kick 3 penalties and a drop goal

Turner probably should’ve scored the cross field kick as well which was taken with his weak foot

MDunne14

Bridge93 wrote: »

He didn't kick the drop goal it was Madigan at 15

Well suggest you watch it again it was tarrant the 10, on eir sport twitter if u want to double check, also he missed touch twice but he pinged a lot of very nice kicks to touch from far out and the crossfield to turner with his bad foot wasn’t too bad either , a lot of the time a 10 chips in behind it’s because of calls from outside players

thebaz

Bridge93 wrote: »

He didn't kick the drop goal it was Madigan at 15

wonderful drop goal - the top league teams show they are closing the gap some - Foley for Gerards is a great player

duskyjoe

Some dire decisions by Rock and I mean dire. They are lucky but luck won’t win them the completion. If Gerard’s has a pack re strength to match Rock- this would have been a different result. Rock no.15 cool as a breeze. Schools rugby at its best re excitement

Rugbymax

Standouts for me, Gerard’s 7,10,12. Rock, O’Brien, McGagh, Turner, Donnelly

MDunne14

Bridge93 wrote: »

He didn't kick the drop goal it was Madigan at 15

Well suggest you watch it again it was tarrant the 10, on eir sport twitter if u want to double check, also he missed touch twice but he pinged a lot of very nice kicks to touch from far out and the crossfield to turner with his bad foot wasn’t too bad either , a lot of the time a 10 chips in behind it’s because of calls from outside players

Bridge93

MDunne14 wrote: »

Well suggest you watch it again it was tarrant the 10, on eir sport twitter if u want to double check, also he missed touch twice but he pinged a lot of very nice kicks to touch from far out and the crossfield to turner with his bad foot wasn’t too bad either , a lot of the time a 10 chips in behind it’s because of calls from outside players

And the two cross kicks to no one? Or the turnstile defence to let Foley stroll through?
The last penalty he kicked dead was horrendous. I'm sure he alone didn't make the call not to go for the posts but the kicker needs to take control there. Rocks had a total lack of any sort of direction unless Turner got the ball.

He was really poor today. He'll be better next round

MDunne14

Bridge93 wrote: »

And the two cross kicks to no one? Or the turnstile defence to let Foley stroll through?
The last penalty he kicked dead was horrendous. I'm sure he alone didn't make the call not to go for the posts but the kicker needs to take control there.

He was really poor today. He'll be better next round

Yeah sure he had a few very nice touches not to mention winning them the game obviously he made a few mistakes but being a bit harsh he’s a schoolboy and everyone for rock today was below par but they still grinded through like a cup winning side , can’t help but think if clongowes put michaels in a similar position that michaels would fold , on another note did anyone see turners bosh on two lads at the same time ????

Rala_

MDunne14 wrote: »

Michaels don’t have the backline to pump Blackrock and Blackrock will match them up front especially if they get Brennan back , don’t be too quick to burn the Blackrock 10 few bad descions but after all he did kick 3 penalties and a drop goal

Michaels have the best backline in the competition and a pack equally sized to blackrock. You don't know what you're talking about.

MDunne14

Rala_ wrote: »

Michaels have the best backline in the competition and a pack equally sized to blackrock. You don't know what you're talking about.

Disagree Blackrock backline is better and I said Blackrock have a pack to match Michaels , michaels have good individual backs but a lot of them over hyped but have good potential but not as good as rock at the moment

6elieve

Rala_ wrote: »

Michaels have the best backline in the competition and a pack equally sized to blackrock. You don't know what you're talking about.

Rocks tight 5 would destroy michaels ... only Baird would get into the rock team

Rala_

MDunne14 wrote: »

Well suggest you watch it again it was tarrant the 10, on eir sport twitter if u want to double check, also he missed touch twice but he pinged a lot of very nice kicks to touch from far out and the crossfield to turner with his bad foot wasn’t too bad either , a lot of the time a 10 chips in behind it’s because of calls from outside players

Tarrant also knocked on about 3 balls.

Bridge93

Who was the Gerard's 6? Was very impressed with him. Himself and Baxter were first to nearly everything that was spilled

6elieve

Rala_ wrote: »

Tarrant also knocked on about 3 balls.

No ones hands were perfect today

Cormac Foley even fired 2 loose passes into touch

Sands Bob

Rala_ wrote: »

Michaels have the best backline in the competition and a pack equally sized to blackrock. You don't know what you're talking about.

Let me guess you’re a Clongowes past pupil posing as a Nure one?

Nobody is pumping Michaels up except you getting them ready for a fall.

Clongowes is a 50-50 game despite their poor start against Kings Hos.

Could go either way.

MDunne14

Rala_ wrote: »

Tarrant also knocked on about 3 balls.

Yeah and cormax foley passed 3 balls into touch but no1 here is disecting his performance bit by bit because he’s not from rock and had a great game, no doubt tarrant below par but disecting his performance is unfair and he had some very important contributions

Ally Bren 92

Michaels surely with one hand on the cup now,cwc barely got past KH while rock and belvo aren't performing

Sands Bob

Rala_ wrote: »

Blackrock would get thumped by Michaels.

Really? Nah I don’t think so.

simplyafan

thebaz wrote: »

wonderful drop goal - the top league teams show they are closing the gap some - Foley for Gerards is a great player

Foley was outstanding and today.......thought that Gerards overall played very well and could have scraped it....that Rock played so badly and won indicates that there is still a gap between League and elite 3!!!

6elieve

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

Michaels surely with one hand on the cup now,cwc barely got past KH while rock and belvo aren't performing

Ridiculously early to be saying that

Rala_

MDunne14 wrote: »

Yeah and cormax foley passed 3 balls into touch but no1 here is disecting his performance bit by bit because he’s not from rock and had a great game, no doubt tarrant below par but disecting his performance is unfair and he had some very important contributions

Yes, but a fly half has to be able to control and operate a game. Blackrock had no sense of direction till Louis O'Reilly came on, you could see him directing the forwards to keep ball.

Bridge93

My worry for rock is not individuals playing poorly as that happens. It's that their decision making was so poor and didn't improve at all from start to end. Those conditions should've suited them perfectly yet through constant brain farts they allowed Gerard's confidence to build and build as they maintained a lead.

Thermoman12

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

Michaels surely with one hand on the cup now,cwc barely got past KH while rock and belvo aren't performing

I agree, stmc have a huge pack with forwards like Scott Penny and Ryan Baird and with a magnificent backline with the likes of Chris Cosgrave, David Ryan and Mark O’Brien, Michaels seem too strong for all these teams in the competition, which is why they play internationally against teams from New Zealand and England etc

Sands Bob

Thermoman12 wrote: »

I agree, stmc have a huge pack with forwards like Scott Penny and Ryan Baird and with a magnificent backline with the likes of Chris Cosgrave, David Ryan and Mark O’Brien, Michaels seem too strong for all these teams in the competition, which is why they play internationally against teams from New Zealand and England etc

Bit early for that no? Don’t we know pre season matters very little in terms of results at Cup time? Premature to be saying that I think but I imagine you have your own motives for doing so

Bridge93

The fixtures are arranged years in advance. it has nothing to do with the talent of respective teams

6elieve

Thermoman12 wrote: »

I agree, stmc have a huge pack with forwards like Scott Penny and Ryan Baird and with a magnificent backline with the likes of Chris Cosgrave, David Ryan and Mark O’Brien, Michaels seem too strong for all these teams in the competition, which is why they play internationally against teams from New Zealand and England etc

DIDnt they beat both those English teams like 60-0 ?

Sands Bob

Okay just for the sake of evenness if we are going to bring up Michaels pre season results why don’t we also bring up Clongowes! How did they do against Terenure and Belvo in pre season? Also Tadgh Beirnes behavior towards Moloney post the Scarlets game is undoubted ammunition for Michaels no?

Rala_

MDunne14 wrote: »

Disagree Blackrock backline is better and I said Blackrock have a pack to match Michaels , michaels have good individual backs but a lot of them over hyped but have good potential but not as good as rock at the moment

Foley managed to slice the Rock centre pairing open anyway and there were several line breaks. Not a michaels man at all but you cannot deny that Michaels are sharper based off today's performance. David Ryan is the best centre in Ireland at the moment, can't see them letting turner bump them off.

Thermoman12

6elieve wrote: »

DIDnt they beat both those English teams like 60-0 ?

Kirkham Grammar are the powerhouse of English schoolboy rugby and Michael’s destroyed them 66-0

Ally Bren 92

Sands Bob wrote: »

Okay just for the sake of evenness if we are going to bring up Michaels pre season results why don’t we also bring up Clongowes! How did they do against Terenure and Belvo in pre season? Also Tadgh Beirnes behavior towards Moloney post the Scarlets game is undoubted ammunition for Michaels no?

What did beirne do?

Rugbymax

What time is the eir sports re run?

MDunne14

Rala_ wrote: »

Foley managed to slice the Rock centre pairing open anyway and there were several line breaks. Not a michaels man at all but you cannot deny that Michaels are sharper based off today's performance. David Ryan is the best centre in Ireland at the moment, can't see them letting turner bump them off.

Il agree that Michaels are sharper at the moment but you can’t honestly think Ryan is the best centre in Ireland ? Sean French , Kieran Dunne , Evan ogorman , Stewart Moore , Angus kernohan are all better and his age , turner is better too but more of a winger similar to kernohan

Rugbymax

Thermoman12 wrote: »

I agree, stmc have a huge pack with forwards like Scott Penny and Ryan Baird and with a magnificent backline with the likes of Chris Cosgrave, David Ryan and Mark O’Brien, Michaels seem too strong for all these teams in the competition, which is why they play internationally against teams from New Zealand and England etc

Yes Michaels so much better than every team in Ireland and that’s why they win the cup every year..... oh wait they’ve won 2 and haven’t won since 2012, you’re completely talking garbage please stop thanks.

Ally Bren 92

MDunne14 wrote: »

Il agree that Michaels are sharper at the moment but if you can’t honestly think Ryan is the best centre in Ireland ? Sean French , Kieran Dunne , Evan ogorman , Stewart Moore , Angus kernohan are all better and his age , turner is better too but more of a winger similar to kernohan

Sean French best player in Ireland for his age

MDunne14

As good as cosgrave was at jct last year people here seem to be forgetting that he didn’t start for Leinster schools and he’s in fourth year?! He no doubt ls going to be an absolute phenom by the time he’s in 6th year but at this moment in time if he goes up against turner at 13 he will get run over and demolished , harsh to expect so much from someone so young albeit the talent he has

6elieve

Thermoman12 wrote: »

Kirkham Grammar are the powerhouse of English schoolboy rugby and Michael’s destroyed them 66-0

English schools rugby must be ridiculously poor then... michales wouldn’t beat any of the teams competing in LSSC 66-0

Sands Bob

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

What did beirne do?

He acted like some of the people on here pumping up Michaels - like a bell end

Rugbymax

England u18 cup on the Rfu website says Kirkham Grammar have never won the u18 cup and aren’t even in the quarter final. Not great for a school people call a “powerhouse”.

The Lost Sheep

Rugbymax wrote: »

England u18 cup on the Rfu website says Kirkham Grammar have never won the u18 cup and aren’t even in the quarter final. Not great for a school people call a “powerhouse”.

Cant read too much into the u18 schools cup in England. There are a lot of very good schools in England who dont compete in that cup and they only compete in daily mail trophy as they only play rugby in one term of school.

Rugbymax

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Cant read too much into the u18 schools cup in England. There are a lot of very good schools in England who dont compete in that cup and they only compete in daily mail trophy as they only play rugby in one term of school.

Daly Mail is now the NatWest and they’ve never won that either.

MDunne14

Blackrocks pack showed there power today while arguably missing 3 starters , there backs didn’t match but that will come in time

Rugbymax

MDunne14 wrote: »

Blackrocks pack showed there power today while arguably missing 3 starters , there backs didn’t match but that will come in time

Donacha Mescal, Ed Brennan, James Burke, Liam McMahon

Fox90

Dave Ryan is solid not much more. Michaels backline was average at best against Nure and relied on the huge size difference in the pack to win

Rugbymax

Thermoman12 wrote: »

I agree, stmc have a huge pack with forwards like Scott Penny and Ryan Baird and with a magnificent backline with the likes of Chris Cosgrave, David Ryan and Mark O’Brien, Michaels seem too strong for all these teams in the competition, which is why they play internationally against teams from New Zealand and England etc

Also Rock went down to New Zealand played lads 6 months older than them and only lost once the day after they arrived.