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Bacliner

Thermoman12 wrote: »

6elieve wrote: »

DIDnt they beat both those English teams like 60-0 ?

Kirkham Grammar are the powerhouse of English schoolboy rugby and Michael’s destroyed them 66-0

FYI Most of Kirham grammar team were out injured for that match so no point reading too much into that although it’s Michaels cup to lose judging on performances thus far: won’t be long before a league team wins the cup again: the standard this year from league has been immense.

Rala_

Rugbymax wrote: »

Also Rock went down to New Zealand played lads 6 months older than them and only lost once the day after they arrived.

Not true, lost 3.

Thermoman12

Rala_ wrote: »

Not true, lost 3.

No, I believe they only lost one

Rugbymax

Rala_ wrote: »

Not true, lost 3.

Not true the 1st team lost one please if you’re going to try correct me make sure your correct

Inspector Coptoor

Belvo team to play Newbridge tomorrow

1 J Gleeson
2 L Harmon
3 C Cagney
4 A Soroka
5 J Murphy
6 G Hill
7 A Coleman
8 R Byron

9 T Walsh
10 J Leonard
11 A Loughrey
12 C Mulvaney
13 M Grogan
14 A OGrady
15 D Lacey

16 A Synott
17 M Galinski
18 J Bell
19 N Howard
20 C Scott
21 P Lysaght
22 J Meagher
23 G O Brien

Injured
D Hawkshaw - 10/12
S Barry - wing
J O Grady - 13
H Beggy 1 back row
P Twomey - hooker

New Centre partnership of Mulvaney and Grogan - both 5th Years.

5th years playing at 3, 4, 7, 10, 12 & 13 and 4 x 5th year subs.

Will be a tight game.
Belvo to win by a score.

6elieve

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Belvo team to play Newbridge tomorrow

1 J Gleeson
2 L Harmon
3 C Cagney
4 A Soroka
5 J Murphy
6 G Hill
7 A Coleman
8 R Byron

9 T Walsh
10 J Leonard
11 A Loughrey
12 C Mulvaney
13 M Grogan
14 A OGrady
15 D Lacey

16 A Synott
17 M Galinski
18 J Bell
19 N Howard
20 C Scott
21 P Lysaght
22 J Meagher
23 G O Brien

Injured
D Hawkshaw - 10/12
S Barry - wing
J O Grady - 13
H Beggy 1 back row
P Twomey - hooker

New Centre partnership of Mulvaney and Grogan - both 5th Years.

5th years playing at 3, 4, 7, 10, 12 & 13 and 4 x 5th year subs.

Will be a tight game.
Belvo to win by a score.

What’s wrong with O’Grady ?
Big loss

Inspector Coptoor

6elieve wrote: »

What’s wrong with O’Grady ?
Big loss

Hamstring afaik

6elieve

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Hamstring afaik

Will him and Hawkshaw be back for semis if they are to get there ?

Inspector Coptoor

6elieve wrote: »

Will him and Hawkshaw be back for semis if they are to get there ?

That’s the hope.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

What are Newbridge like?

6elieve

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

What are Newbridge like?

Saw them twice in pre season, and they were very average, but that 36-0 shoreline against pres makes me question how much effort was put into those matches. Must be a good side to win a cup game by 30 odd points.
Have a strong pack, Rigney and Prendergast the standouts

Rugbymax

6elieve wrote: »

Saw them twice in pre season, and they were very average, but that 36-0 shoreline against pres makes me question how much effort was put into those matches. Must be a good side to win a cup game by 30 odd points.
Have a strong pack, Rigney and Prendergast the standouts

Pres were awful in that game.

6elieve

Think comments regarding tarrant were very harsh

Yes he played poorly but still had the balls to step up and take a drop kick with about 5 mins left and at the end of the day he did win them the game.

Rugbymax

6elieve wrote: »

Think comments regarding tarrant were very harsh

Yes he played poorly but still had the balls to step up and take a drop kick with about 5 mins left and at the end of the day he did win them the game.

Also chased a high ball and absolutely flattened the Gerard’s wing

Sharkattack69

Blackrock showing all the attributes that a team need to win a senior cup, very hard to beat. All this talk about St Michaels with one hand on the cup. Rubbish. They only have 2 cups for a reason whereas blackrock are sitting on top of 68. As we already know Michaels are specialists in failure as we will see again this year

RugbyRugby2016

Anyone know what the bench was for Rock today?

Sharkattack69

God only made one thing perfect and that’s blackrocks record against st Michaels in the senior cup.

Maulcair

Mion, Duffy, Kirby, Foley, Heylin, O’Reilly, Jones, Doyle

Sharkattack69

Match winner

Sharkattack69

The power of blackrocks maul today was incredible. I wouldn’t be surprised if they mauled Michaels the whole way down Ailesbury road and into the school.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Sharkattack69 wrote: »

The power of blackrocks maul today was incredible. I wouldn’t be surprised if they mauled Michaels the whole way down Ailesbury road and into the school.

Very surprised they didn't use the maul more today, was almost unstoppable, but before you get too carried away, Belvo are still in the cup ,if they get full panel back they will be hard to beat, best coached team and they know how to win

Ally Bren 92

Sharkattack69 wrote: »

The power of blackrocks maul today was incredible. I wouldn’t be surprised if they mauled Michaels the whole way down Ailesbury road and into the school.

Wouldn't it be hard to exit the stadium with an 8 man maul and go out onto heavy traffic while the maul is still intact

Sharkattack69

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

Very surprised they didn't use the maul more today, was almost unstoppable, but before you get too carried away, Belvo are still in the cup ,if they get full panel back they will be hard to beat, best coaches team and they know how to win

Yes I agree Belvo are dangerous but the team even without the injuries doesn’t look nearly as strong as last year

Sharkattack69

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

Wouldn't it be hard to exit the stadium with an 8 man maul and go out onto heavy traffic while the maul is still intact

They’d stop the traffic.

Thermoman12

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

Wouldn't it be hard to exit the stadium with an 8 man maul and go out onto heavy traffic while the maul is still intact

I think the ref will try stop them leaving the pitch due to safety reasons

Ally Bren 92

Sharkattack69 wrote: »

They’d stop the traffic.

But then again aren't they there to play a game of rugby on donnybrook,not to physical maul a team back to their school

Stephen Hawkins football boots

As an ex pupil I want Belvo to win it naturally, but you are right not as good as last year, if Belvo don't win it , then anyone but Michaels or Roscrea for me

Sharkattack69

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

But then again aren't they there to play a game of rugby on donnybrook,not to physical maul a team back to their school

Sure it’s only around the corner

Ally Bren 92

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

As an ex pupil I want Belvo to win it naturally, but you are right not as good as last year, if Belvo don't win it , then anyone but Michaels or Roscrea for me

Michaels to win by 4
Mary's to win by 8
Belvo to win by 12
IMO

Maulcair

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

But then again aren't they there to play a game of rugby on donnybrook,not to physical maul a team back to their school

Pretty sure the whole mauling them down Ailesbury Road was just a figure of speech and not the actual intent of the Blackrock team.

Ally Bren 92

Sharkattack69 wrote: »

Sure it’s only around the corner

You also have to bring into account the fitness levels of the players as mauling 1600 metres can be pretty gruelling for 18 year olds weighing 90 kg+

Ally Bren 92

Maulcair wrote: »

Pretty sure the whole mauling them down Ailesbury Road was just a figure of speech and not the actual intent of the Blackrock team.

Oh

Sharkattack69

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

You also have to bring into account the fitness levels of the players as mauling 1600 metres can be pretty gruelling for 18 year olds weighing 90 kg+

Peak fitness levels they go down for army training every month

Maulcair

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

really

really

Ally Bren 92

Sharkattack69 wrote: »

Peak fitness levels they go down for army training every month

But then again would they be mentally fit to carry out such a task.it would be very interesting to see when they hopefully meet next round

Thermoman12

Ally Bren 92 wrote: »

But then again would they be mentally fit to carry out such a task.it would be very interesting to see when they hopefully meet next round

Don’t think ref will allow it if Blackrock were to maul Michaels out of the stadium, surely the stewards will stop it if they try and go towards the gate?

Ally Bren 92

Thermoman12 wrote: »

Don’t think ref will allow it if Blackrock were to maul Michaels out of the stadium, surely the stewards will stop it if they try and go towards the gate?

That was my view too

6elieve

Great banter this

Peugeot_69

You are completely delusional if you think anyone else but Rock are winning the cup this year. They will take home the Double, without much competition, today wasn’t purely a hiccup. From a Belvo past pupil.

Thermoman12

Peugeot_69 wrote: »

You are completely delusional if you think anyone else but Rock are winning the cup this year. They will take home the Double, without much competition, today wasn’t purely a hiccup. From a Belvo past pupil.

Don’t be so arrogant, you’re clearly taking the piss if you think rock will win the double this year without any competition, they struggled against Gerard’s today, so it will be competitive for them to win the next round no matter who they play against

1TenKen

Thermoman12 wrote: »

Don’t be so arrogant, you’re clearly taking the piss if you think rock will win the double this year without any competition, they struggled against Gerard’s today, so it will be competitive for them to win the next round no matter who they play against

Not true, rock really showed today that they are still the powerhouses of Irish rugby they showed their power with a serious maul and scrum with molony and mcgagh two workhorses in the pack. To say that michaels have one hand on the cup is an outrageous statement they are notorious bottlers and have never and will never beat rock in a cup match, every year is the ‘dream team’ for them and then always crack under the pressure at donnybrook and this year is no different.

Thermoman12

1TenKen wrote: »

Not true, rock really showed today that they are still the powerhouses of Irish rugby they showed their power with a serious maul and scrum with molony and mcgagh two workhorses in the pack. To say that michaels have one hand on the cup is an outrageous statement they are notorious bottlers and have never and will never beat rock in a cup match, every year is the ‘dream team’ for them and then always crack under the pressure at donnybrook and this year is no different.

Would have to disagree with you on that considering Michaels beat rock in pre season in Blackrock

1TenKen

Thermoman12 wrote: »

Would have to disagree with you on that considering Michaels beat rock in pre season in Blackrock

Pre season means nothing when it comes to cup time if I’m right I think michaels have never beaten rock in a cup match at sct level in their long history. Rock are too strong unfortunately. as a Belvo past pupil I would like to see them do well this year but rock will win

Thermoman12

1TenKen wrote: »

Pre season means nothing when it comes to cup time if I’m right I think michaels have never beaten rock in a cup match at sct level in their long history. Rock are too strong unfortunately. as a Belvo past pupil I would like to see them do well this year but rock will win

Well same thing was said about rock last year, they destroyed every team all season then bottled it in the final, so you can’t say rock are too strong, what makes you think rock are too strong?

Rugbymax

Thermoman12 wrote: »

Would have to disagree with you on that considering Michaels beat rock in pre season in Blackrock

Michaels the kings of pre season which has led to them winning the cup every year..... oh wait

bradders90

6elieve wrote: »

Thermoman12 wrote: »

I agree, stmc have a huge pack with forwards like Scott Penny and Ryan Baird and with a magnificent backline with the likes of Chris Cosgrave, David Ryan and Mark O’Brien, Michaels seem too strong for all these teams in the competition, which is why they play internationally against teams from New Zealand and England etc

DIDnt they beat both those English teams like 60-0 ?

The Wellington college side they pumped by 72 points was severely weakened beyond recognition. Missing all 4 England u18/17 internationals.
Do not know about Kirkham who lost 32-0, but considering they have had 4 players named in the England age grade squads this year also I suspect they would have also had injuries.

This years Sedbergh 1st XV verus St. Michaels would probably be the strongest school boy fixture out there. Sedbergh absolutely walked over pretty much all English competition. 6 England agegrade players off the top of my head, with 2 more playing for Wales/Scotland.

bradders90

6elieve wrote: »

Thermoman12 wrote: »

I agree, stmc have a huge pack with forwards like Scott Penny and Ryan Baird and with a magnificent backline with the likes of Chris Cosgrave, David Ryan and Mark O’Brien, Michaels seem too strong for all these teams in the competition, which is why they play internationally against teams from New Zealand and England etc

DIDnt they beat both those English teams like 60-0 ?

The Wellington college side they pumped by 72 points was severely weakened beyond recognition. Missing all 4 England u18/17 internationals.
Do not know about Kirkham who lost 32-0, but considering they have had 4 players named in the England age grade squads this year also I suspect they would have also had injuries.

This years Sedbergh 1st XV verus St. Michaels would probably be the strongest school boy fixture out there. Sedbergh absolutely walked over pretty much all English competition. 6 England agegrade players off the top of my head, with 2 more playing for Wales/Scotland.

C3PO

1TenKen wrote: »

Not true, rock really showed today that they are still the powerhouses of Irish rugby they showed their power with a serious maul and scrum with molony and mcgagh two workhorses in the pack. To say that michaels have one hand on the cup is an outrageous statement they are notorious bottlers and have never and will never beat rock in a cup match, every year is the ‘dream team’ for them and then always crack under the pressure at donnybrook and this year is no different.

You must have been at a different match to the one I attended! If that Rock team is to win the SCT they will need to play a lot better than they did yesterday!Their handling errors and poor decision making were astonishing at times. I have no particular gra for either Rock or Micheals but on the basis of what I've seen so far I would fancy Michaels to come out on top!

FrannoFan

Amazed people are writing off Rock!
They won and are into the semi final! Belvo weren't overly impressive against Gonzaga and Michaels were soso against Terenure.

I can only assume it is because people are doing the same thing that happens every year- the league sides are underestimated. Gerrards won the league-whoever comes through that competition is always a good side (newbridge/roscrea in recent years)

Rock have a big pack, an excellent maul, a god goal kicker and the 10 had a few wobbles but he also managed a few excellent touch finders.
Still a very likely winner of the competition

C3PO

I am certainly not writing off Rock but, as I said above, they will need to do better to win the cup! I suspect they were a little arrogant in their approach to yesterdays match - I certainly found their "display" to their crowd before kick-off a bit insulting to Gerards but maybe that's just me?
Anyway, time will tell and I'm looking forward to the rest of the tournament!