Schools Rugby 2017 2018 Thread SEE MOD WARNING POST #1773

Meathdub

Based on posts here you’d think Michaels Rock meet regularly in SCT It hasn’t actually been that common a match up. Clongowes has historically been the most frequent opposition for Michaels (and I don’t just mean the 4 finals they contested).

Agree though Michaels have a poor cup record. Not sure I’d put it as players simply bottling it. Would put responsibility mainly on coaches/culture. The coaches take misplaced pride in their expansive style of play and school places too much emphasis on individual player development. They ignore the reality of the need to be able to play winning/cup rugby come Feb. The kids are generally in my experience as mentally tough as others (wouldn’t have so many pros and u20 captains if not!) - but they get little mentoring/coaching on cup rugby such as strategy/percentage plays/ adapting to a wet or windy donnybrook etc.

As a past pupil it annoys me. Nice to see boys get pro careers and in the bigger picture maybe good for leinster/ireland, but what I wouldn’t give for a Werahiko type coach. A real gem there for Belvo,

Maulcair

C3PO wrote: »

I am certainly not writing off Rock but, as I said above, they will need to do better to win the cup! I suspect they were a little arrogant in their approach to yesterdays match - I certainly found their "display" to their crowd before kick-off a bit insulting to Gerards but maybe that's just me?
Anyway, time will tell and I'm looking forward to the rest of the tournament!

Expand on this ‘display’ to their crowd statement.
Absolutely baffled by this accusation.

irishfan9

Foley & Baxter looked like future academy players yesterday.

C3PO

Maulcair wrote: »

Expand on this ‘display’ to their crowd statement.
Absolutely baffled by this accusation.

I'm talking about the interaction between the Rock team and their crowd before the kick-off! I don't know if they do that before all their games? I wasn't the only one at the match to comment on it either! To me it displayed a lack of focus and concentration which was definitely the case for the first 30 minutes of the game!

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C3PO wrote: »

I'm talking about the interaction between the Rock team and their crowd before the kick-off! I don't know if they do that before all their games? I wasn't the only one at the match to comment on it either! To me it displayed a lack of focus and concentration which was definitely the case for the first 30 minutes of the game!

Is this when they sang their school anthem? They do it before and after every cup match (junior and senior). There are also a couple of others schools that do the same

Stephen Hawkins football boots

BDJW wrote: »

Is this when they sang their school anthem? They do it before and after every cup match (junior and senior). There are also a couple of others schools that do the same

Belvo started that now most schools are doing it

Rugbymax

Maulcair wrote: »

Expand on this ‘display’ to their crowd statement.
Absolutely baffled by this accusation.

Yes because repeating a tradition we have done for the majority of senior cup matches in our history against all opposition is the most arrogant this I have ever seen realistically people will always try to find something wrong with rock.

Straw Hats

Maulcair wrote: »

Expand on this ‘display’ to their crowd statement.
Absolutely baffled by this accusation.

A lot of the schools sing their song to/with their fans before the match. Maybe it's a bit juvenile but this is schools rugby. It's part of the tradition and pageantry. There's no need to take offence as it happens all the time.
Also, maul my foot, Michaels are going to spank Blackrock all the way back to Williamstown.

Maulcair

C3PO wrote: »

I'm talking about the interaction between the Rock team and their crowd before the kick-off! I don't know if they do that before all their games? I wasn't the only one at the match to comment on it either! To me it displayed a lack of focus and concentration which was definitely the case for the first 30 minutes of the game!

Blackrock have been doing the traditional ‘Rock Boys are We’ before kick-off for many years. Don’t make accusations of the team being arrogant without knowledge to back it up.

Rugbymax

Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »

Belvo started that now most schools are doing it

As far as I’m aware Belvo weren’t singing it in the 70’s and 80’s and rock were but that’s irrelevant.

Rugbymax

Maulcair wrote: »

Blackrock have been doing the traditional ‘Rock Boys are We’ before kick-off for many years. Don’t make accusations of the team being arrogant without knowledge to back it up.

Quite arrogant of the original poster to insult the tradition with such ease having not realised that Belvo and Michaels do it as well, all these schools rugby “experts” and they have never even been to a top 3 schools cup game before!

irishfan9

fancy newbridge.

Noscrumnowin

irishfan9 wrote: »

fancy newbridge.

Any updates would be appreciated if you’rethere eir sport not letting me log in to stream it on my phone

Bridge93

Did he get that down? Looked like it to me

duskyjoe

Thought that was a try also?

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Don't like saying this but Belvo are poor,can't see us even winning this game let alone a semi. On another note Johne Murphy could try and be a bit less biased in the commetary

Stephen Hawkins football boots

irishfan9 wrote: »

fancy newbridge.

Belvo are far superior just bad handling , not saying Belvo are great though, Belvo number 10 is anonymous

Noscrumnowin

Well that was a blatant Newbridge try just watched the replay on eir sports twitter

irishfan9

that was a try.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Noscrumnowin wrote: »

Well that was a blatant Newbridge try just watched the replay on eir sports twitter

Ball was short

Inspector Coptoor

Wasn’t a try,
Well short
I was right in front of it.

Fairly dour game.

Ref not pinging Newbridge for lots of high tackles.


Try Belvo right on HT

5-0 With Con to come

Inspector Coptoor

5-0 @ HT
Conversion missed.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

irishfan9 wrote: »

that was a try.

Watch again was short , reply confirmed it

6elieve

Hard to tell

Ayewserious

The standard is shocking... belvo 15 looks a handy player

Inspector Coptoor

Ayewserious wrote: »

The standard is shocking... belvo 15 looks a handy player

Played Dublin minor in 2017.
Kicking 45s over from the ground.

duskyjoe

Agree all. Try was deffo short. Anyone care to comment on the skin burn marks the players suffer on the synthetic pitch?

Inspector Coptoor

Try Newbridge

Intercept on the Newbridge 5m line

Newbridge way offside, ref never called it.

Con scored

7-5 to Newbridge.

THFC198

only have access to the twitter angle, but seemed like he timed his run to perfection reading the SH's pass

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Belvo getting turned over so often,awful

Inspector Coptoor

THFC198 wrote: »

only have access to the twitter angle, but seemed like he timed his run to perfection reading the SH's pass

I agree the guy who intercepted wasn’t offside, the flanker who shot up was tho, the SH had to go around him.

THFC198

keep the updates coming, they're great to have lads

Inspector Coptoor

Belvo held up under the posts

Scrum 5m

Inspector Coptoor

Penalty scored by Lacey from Belvo

8-7 to Belvo
20 mins to go

lambayire

Very poor standard of backline play from Belvedere.
The forwards are impressive though.

Maulcair

Rugbymax wrote: »

Quite arrogant of the original poster to insult the tradition with such ease having not realised that Belvo and Michaels do it as well, all these schools rugby “experts” and they have never even been to a top 3 schools cup game before!

Completely agree.

Inspector Coptoor

Try Belvo
Scored by #1, James Gleeson.

Lineout on 22, mauled 10m, great break from Byron, quick ball to Gleeson and he barged over.

Conversion missed by Lacey

13-7

lambayire

Mighty impressive maul

MDunne14

Neither team look to have physicality to match Michaels or rock

Inspector Coptoor

Penalty belvo
Scored by Lacey

16-7

Lysaght getting the ball away from the base very quickly.
Newbridge not contesting the rucks at all

Inspector Coptoor

MDunne14 wrote: »

Neither team look to have physicality to match Michaels or rock

That was said about Belvos team last year and year before.
Size isn’t everything.

MDunne14

Ayewserious wrote: »

The standard is shocking... belvo 15 looks a handy player

Very slight build he’ll struggle against bigger sides

Inspector Coptoor

Try Belvo scored by 13, Matt Grogan off first phase.
Lovely try
Converted by Lacey
23-7 Belvo
3 mins to go

Inspector Coptoor

MDunne14 wrote: »

Very slight build he’ll struggle against bigger sides

:-)

He’s 6 foot 3

Rala_

Would love to see this Belvo side with Hawkshaw back for semi's beat Michaels or blackrock.

Fatnacho

Any chance that Belvo are struggling in parts of games because they’re actually playing against some decent sides.Belvo are built to grind out results. They’re never gonna rack up huge scores against well drilled teams from Zaga or Newbridge.

Stephen Hawkins football boots

Will Hawkshaw, Barry or Baggy be back for semis? Would really transform the team

Noscrumnowin

Maulcair wrote: »

Completely agree.

One of the few actually talking sense in this forum.

MDunne14

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

:-)

He’s 6 foot 3

And about 70kg.... build more suited to gaa, was shocked to see how poor newbridge were today will be interesting to see a top 3 clash in semis with the other of the schools getting a handy semi

Stephen Hawkins football boots

MDunne14 wrote: »

And about 70kg.... build more suited to gaa, was shocked to see how poor newbridge were today will be interesting to see a top 3 clash in semis with the other of the schools getting a handy semi

He was very balanced and composed he looked good