Schools Rugby 2017 2018 Thread SEE MOD WARNING POST #1773

Ayewserious

Shocking from Michael's

MDunne14

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Try Belvo
Off back of a maul
Conversion scored

Final whistle


Belvo winners 20-19 from 19-3 down.

Unreal.

Michaels looked v tired towards the end and once again, a brilliant group of individuals can’t get the W when it matters

19-3 down with 10 minutes to play! O’Donovan taken off with 15 left?? Terrible coaching descion

lambayire

Bloody hell - what a finish.

And that conversion barely got above the blockers too!!

Rala_

Unbelievable, delighted for belvo!

Inspector Coptoor

MDunne14 wrote: »

19-3 down with 10 minutes to play! O’Donovan taken off with 15 left?? Terrible coaching descion

He was spent.
Not fit enough.
Outplayed by Byron

Bacliner

Ayewserious wrote: »

Shocking from Michael's

Brilliance from Belvo!

MDunne14

4 cups in a row for belvo and werahiko, ulster could do a lot worse , his coaching is up to pro level

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Thoughts Iriahfan9?

Stephen Hawkins football boots

3 in a row yessssss

irishfan9

Incredible choke by michaels again.

Rock to win final.

rugbytutor

Got to feel for Michaels, probably the better team for 50 minutes, but perhaps the first 50 took too much out of them.
Belvo's bench certainly won them that game.

Once Belvo got momentum, Michaels lost control of the game altogether.

Belvo will need to fix an awful lot going into the final.

Fox90

O’Donovan is massively overrated he is just large while Byron is perennially underrated very influential

Ayewserious

May seem a bit harsh but I don't think I've ever seen David Ryan have a great game..

Rala_

Character always beats arrogance.

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irishfan9 wrote: »

Incredible choke by michaels again.

Rock to win final.

You said Belvo had no hope after Zaga game

Inspector Coptoor

irishfan9 wrote: »

Incredible choke by michaels again.

Rock to win final.

Hmmmm
Lemons

MDunne14

Michaels the equivalent to mayo at this stage , thought this team had more character with some big names and although penny and Baird stood up the same can’t be said about others! Shocking display in the last 10 minuyes

Swordsman95

The flaming bottlers

leinster_rugby

Serious questions should be asked of the Michaels coaching team. I don't think there's any doubt that if you swapped Werahiko and McMahon that Michaels would have won today. For a school with the resources they have, and the players they've developed, it's staggering they don't invest more in a top level coach.

mistdub

MDunne14 wrote: »

Michaels the equivalent to mayo at this stage , thought this team had more character with some big names and although penny and Baird stood up the same can’t be said about others! Shocking display in the last 10 minuyes

Id hypothesize that the school's self congratulatory attitude might leave some players lacking the humility and mental toughness to edge out these games.

Bacliner

mistdub wrote: »

Id hypothesize that the school's self congratulatory attitude might leave some players lacking the humility and mental toughness to edge out these games.

Agree

D14Rugby

Wow some really bitter people coming out of the woodwork here.

And before it's suggested, I didn't go to Michael's or any "rival" rugby school or anything along those likes, purely neutral.

Whay can't people focus of the serious guts shown by belvo and the great game rather than taking cheap shots at Michaels?

MDunne14

D14Rugby wrote: »

Wow some really bitter people coming out of the woodwork here.

And before it's suggested, I didn't go to Michael's or any "rival" rugby school or anything along those likes, purely neutral.

Whay can't people focus of the serious guts shown by belvo and the great game rather than taking cheap shots at Michaels?

Weren’t you the one posting on other threads saying you had no sympathy for the demise in Blackrock rfc?? ...

D14Rugby

MDunne14 wrote: »

Weren’t you the one posting on other threads saying you had no sympathy for the demise in Blackrock rfc?? ...

Yes? There is a difference between having a go at kids losing a game and having no sympathy for a club getting into financial difficulty by trying to gain an upper hand against the rules

Also not a demise, a fall from grace, again big difference

shoutman

This thread is absolutely septic...

As a former pupil of Belvo, I'm delighted with the win.

I thought Michael's were the better team today, but just couldn't keep the pace up and contend with the Belvo bench.

Nerves of steel to kick that dropgoal conversion, but an awful lot of stuff for Belvo to work on, line outs were very poor and some of the simple handling errors were surprising to see.

From what I've read, a young enough Michael's team, so I'm sure they'll be back, I hope they aren't listening to some of the eejits on this thread anyway.

C3PO

Only got to the match for the last 10 minutes! Astonishing comeback by a very brave Belvo team. But a total breakdown by Michaels - they completelyh lost their focus. As somebody else suggested, some serious questions must be asked of their coaching team!
Most of all, I feel for the lads on the Michael's team - they will be devastated not so much by the loss as the manner of it! Worth remembering that they are only kids!

Zzippy

Sigh. No matter how many warnings are posted people can't help themselves. Bans and red cards issued. If this continues the thread will be closed permanently.

milosh

I feel very sorry for the Michaels' kids. That comeback from Belvo will haunt them. I hope the professional staff can learn form this because the added hurt they will feel can be attributed to them. They over-hype the cup sides and in their newsletter focus on just them and their past pupil professional athletes. The media exposure is a bit much. Most schools turn down the type of national media interviews that they engage in as the staff of the other schools surely understand the pressure they would be putting on their team.
Its not a surprise that their competition don't feel the need to do this as they have real pedigree and history to sell themselves. Michaels are very much the noisy neighbours at the moment. Hopefully that changes soon as they can and should be one of the powerhouses of the schools game.

joseywhales

They made the semi's and consistently produce future professional players, isn't that a sign of good coaching? Life isn't all about one game.

Chris hughes25

irishfan9 wrote: »

looking like they will bottle it and actually bottling it is rather different.

I agree they looked ready to bottle it against clongowes and they did bottle it today vs belvo !:)

Inspector Coptoor

Ailesburyrd.69 wrote: »

Anyone re-call D.Ryan's kick at goal down into Bective that he missed in the opening minutes of today's game ? My granny would have stroked that over while enjoying a crisp sandwich... ultimately seems to be what cost St.Michael's today's game.

Was that not D Moran who missed that?

Chris hughes25

Inspector Coptoor wrote: »

Was that not D Moran who missed that?

No it was Ryan , he is a poor enough kicker imo missed an even easier kick for 19s v worcester and usually misses a few a game , he looked very nervous today and didn’t perform

Bridge93

So who are the eight finalists then? Anyone want to give their thoughts on who will win the 4 games?

thebaz

Phil Warhiko is a superb coach, best out ther by some .
Schools rugby can be cruel , suffered more from defeats , that the joys of victory - but you learn more from defeats (i think) - well done belvo, you can only but respect what Phil and belvo have done.

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Ailesburyrd.69 wrote: »

thebaz wrote: »

Phil Warhiko is a superb coach, best out ther by some .
Schools rugby can be cruel , suffered more from defeats , that the joys of victory - but you learn more from defeats (i think) - well done belvo, you can only but respect what Phil and belvo have done.

I agree. Super coach who most definetily has transformed Belvo's rugby recently but his side doesn't seem like it has the tenacity like last years or the previous unfortunately to win this year.

Eh don't have the tenacity?? Surely today proves that,with best player in competition Hawkshaw back for the final they will be hard to beat.

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Meant to say today proves they have the tenacity

Zzippy

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Rala_

I think the traditional GAA background of most of these belvo teams throughout the last few years has contributed to their success. The likes of David Lacey, have that passion, character, heart and determination learnt from the values of GAA and playing under big pressure at county level. It also adds to their balling ability, the coordination from Gaelic. Michaels don't traditionally possess any gaa players ever, maybe this a small reason why they tend to buckle. I'm not sure just an observation.

Greystones_18

rugbytutor wrote: »

Got to feel for Michaels, probably the better team for 50 minutes, but perhaps the first 50 took too much out of them.
Belvo's bench certainly won them that game.

Once Belvo got momentum, Michaels lost control of the game altogether.

Belvo will need to fix an awful lot going into the final.

@rugby tutor I feel like the return of hawkshaw, Irish international with 2 medals in his back pocket, and the return of backrower beggy and back o’grady who are also both provincially capped will fix a whole lot for the side coming into the final.

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Greystones_18 wrote: »

rugbytutor wrote: »

Got to feel for Michaels, probably the better team for 50 minutes, but perhaps the first 50 took too much out of them.
Belvo's bench certainly won them that game.

Once Belvo got momentum, Michaels lost control of the game altogether.

Belvo will need to fix an awful lot going into the final.

@rugby tutor I feel like the return of hawkshaw, Irish international with 2 medals in his back pocket, and the return of backrower beggy and back o’grady who are also both provincially capped will fix a whole lot for the side coming into the final.

Is Beggy decent seen his name mentioned a lot, Is Sam Barry fit think he started on wing in last year's final.So if these guys are back they can certainly win 3 in a row.

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Do you think psychologically Rock would of preferred to play Michaels instead of Belvo? Belvo just don't know how to be beaten

Bridge93

I'm sure Rock are happy to be playing Belvedere instead of Michaels. Should be a great game

Locke_Lamora

Rala_ wrote: »

I think the traditional GAA background of most of these belvo teams throughout the last few years has contributed to their success. The likes of David Lacey, have that passion, character, heart and determination learnt from the values of GAA and playing under big pressure at county level. It also adds to their balling ability, the coordination from Gaelic. Michaels don't traditionally possess any gaa players ever, maybe this a small reason why they tend to buckle. I'm not sure just an observation.

I reckon their rugby background was the main reason that they're a good rugby team. Do rugby players not have character, heart, or determination?

Bridge93

Surprised no one has mentioned the Belvo fullbacks tackle on the Michaels winger as he intercepted a pass 30m out just after going 19-3 up. Was the game if he didn't react so quickly

Maulcair

Rumour has it Giuseppe Coyne is back for final. Great prospect.

Rala_

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

I reckon their rugby background was the main reason that they're a good rugby team. Do rugby players not have character, heart, or determination?

No. You're missing the point.

irishfan9

Rala_ wrote: »

No. You're missing the point.

No he isnt.. ur point is bollix.

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irishfan9 wrote: »

Rala_ wrote: »

No. You're missing the point.

No he isnt.. ur point is bollix.

As is your bigging up of Michael every year

Rala_

irishfan9 wrote: »

No he isnt.. ur point is bollix.

Is it though? 2015-SCT Roscrea- numerous GAA players JCT Blackrock- 3/4 minor county players -Mark Grogan
2016-SCT Belvo few gaa players JCT Blackrock 2/3 good gaa players- Comerford
2017-SCT Belvo good gaa players again- Hugh O'Sullivan
2018- SCT potentially Belvo, again minor players on the team Hawkshaw and Lacey and more.
Realistically teams with more gaa players have a higher chance of winning, don't be so ignorant.

Bridge93

You could make literally the same argument in reverse. The lads excel at GAA thanks to the standard of the rugby setups in the schools they attend and fitness levels it brings. The lads would be more developed than many their age as a result. The reality is good athletes excel at multiple sports