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Ladies and Gentlemen.......

  • 13-07-2017 1:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭


    This is the accepted form of addressing a crowd of people in English. It's counterparts in German, French and Spanish are respectively "Meine Damen und Herren", Mesdames et Messieurs" and "Senoras y Senores" all pretty direct translations.

    In Irish, fair enough, the equivalent is "A dhaoine uaisle" (not a direct translation and no reference to different sexes.)

    So....

    Please somebody tell me that this announcement is a joke!


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,605 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Maybe they should ban the tube. A big long object going in and out of tunnels. Sounds very falic to me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Fcuk sake.

    They will be renaming Manchester to Nonspecificchester next.

    Gobshytery at its finest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Maybe "tube peasants" is better..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    We should just ban talking altogether, just communicate in the form of interpretive dance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    I thought it was something from Waterford Whispers News at first.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Fcuk sake.

    They will be renaming Manchester to Nonspecificchester next.

    Gobshytery at its finest.

    Nonspecific United!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Fcuk sake.

    They will be renaming Manchester to Nonspecificchester next.

    Gobshytery at its finest.

    Cant use the word 'City' anymore as Manchester now identifies as a Town.

    Bit like the reverse of Kilkenny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,843 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    This equality **** is going completely over the top.
    We've got groups of letters to denote certain types of people which incorporates everyone on the planet and now you can't say ladies and gentlemen as it needs to reflect everyone?
    My biology classes might be failing me but regardless of what you are, you are still either a man or a woman...
    Idiotic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    bear1 wrote: »
    This equality **** is going completely over the top.
    We've got groups of letters to denote certain types of people which incorporates everyone on the planet and now you can't say ladies and gentlemen as it needs to reflect everyone?
    My biology classes might be failing me but regardless of what you are, you are still either a man or a woman...
    Idiotic.

    Or a dolphin. How dare you take away my Dolphinhood from me!!!

    Dont assume my species.


    giphy.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Wouldn't be a bad thing to be fair.

    Some psycho posts get thrown around those two areas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭Syphonax


    So long as this leads to Unisex toilets I have no problem with it all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,111 ✭✭✭circadian


    I don't see the problem. Could be due to the fact that I don't really care enough to get outraged about it one way it another.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Sweet baby Jesus, when will it end.


    embarrased.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Maybe the announcement could be "Ladies, Gentlemen, dudes in dresses, women dressed like men, and others".

    I am a gentleman, and I demand to be referred to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Does it really matter? If there had been no news article about it would anyone have noticed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    circadian wrote: »
    I don't see the problem. Could be due to the fact that I don't really care enough to get outraged about it one way it another.

    I'm not outraged; more like exasperated.

    The only thing I fear is that initiatives such as this will cause certain people, with incredibly thin skins, indeed to become outraged if somebody uses the traditional form of address and will therefore accuse them of all sorts of heinous crimes such as being "gender normative" or "non inclusive" or "anti-equality".

    It's priggishness like this that caused monstrosities such as the Shrieking Yale Girl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    "good morning everyone" is like a teacher addressing children in a classroom


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    circadian wrote: »
    I don't see the problem. Could be due to the fact that I don't really care enough to get outraged about it one way it another.

    Ron-Burgundy-What-Did-You-Say-Anchorman.gif


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭deadybai


    I don't.get it .

    Aren't transgender people still a lady or a gent regardless of their birth sex?

    Who are they trying not to offend , the rats and mice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭conorhal


    optogirl wrote: »
    Does it really matter? If there had been no news article about it would anyone have noticed?

    Well, if it doesn't really matter, why do it in the first place?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 12,955 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    I saw a thread about this on the Digitalspy forums. It's political correctness gone mad. Pandering to uber-left types who are offended on behalf of the minuscule number of people who want to be referred to as "non-binary."

    Pathetic. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    deadybai wrote: »
    I don't.get it .

    Aren't transgender people still a lady or a gent regardless of their birth sex?

    Who are they trying not to offend , the rats and mice?


    what if you are Wolfkin?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    Can you imagine attending the meeting this was decided at? It's absolutely ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    The weird thing is soon Britain won't be able to blame this type of thing on the EU anymore and they'll have to realise that it was all their own doing all along…


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Dear Earthlings, now hear this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    I think what annoys people the most with all of the PCness is the act of being told what they can no longer say or do.

    Who are these other people who make these decisions and why do they hold power over the rest?

    What happens if you do not follow the PC way? Not a lot I imagine.

    Why is it such an attrocity that people become offended?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Good morning everyone? Ridicolous, what happens if you hate the bloody morning ey? Don't remind me of it.

    Things that tannoy you incoming...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,118 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    bear1 wrote: »
    This equality **** is going completely over the top.
    We've got groups of letters to denote certain types of people which incorporates everyone on the planet and now you can't say ladies and gentlemen as it needs to reflect everyone?
    My biology classes might be failing me but regardless of what you are, you are still either a man or a woman...
    Idiotic.

    Oh my god. Letters....... the horror of it...... it's a disgrace Joe letters Joe. Its outrageous they want letters. How dare they have letters Joe.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,118 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    I think what annoys people the most with all of the PCness is the act of being told what they can no longer say or do.

    Who are these other people who make these decisions and why do they hold power over the rest?

    What happens if you do not follow the PC way? Not a lot I imagine.

    Why is it such an attrocity that people become offended?

    Do you realise the absurdity of you expressing offence about people expressing offence?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I am delighted that this is happening. I love it when people lose their shit over trivial stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    RayM wrote: »
    I am delighted that this is happening. I love it when people lose their shit over trivial stuff.

    its great alright and when it happens enough people do things like elect Trump to make it stop :D

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Peoplechester
    Theirstory


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Peoplechester
    Theirstory

    Scockhorpe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    We want everyone to feel welcome on our transport network.

    Talk about pandering to a minority of gob****es.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Charmeleon


    Can you imagine attending the meeting this was decided at? It's absolutely ridiculous.

    So, Chairm... person, eh, latest figures aren't good.
    Hum. Marketing, what have you got?
    Well, within the budget we have 'One free child with every six adults!'
    Gah, anything else?
    Yes, we were also thinking 'Gender Bull****'.
    Gender Bull****?
    Oh yes, it's the latest thing, pick something traditional no one has even thought about before and gender it up: unisex bathrooms, women only carriages and the like. The kids love that stuff. Viral feeds, morose twenty somethings making reaction videos, we could even get our own hashtag trending!
    I like it, lets go with Gender Bull****. Great work people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,257 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    jamesbere wrote: »
    We should just ban talking altogether, just communicate in the form of interpretive dance

    That's incredibly Ableist of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    That's incredibly Ableist of you.

    There are many forms of dance that everyone can perform


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Stupid is the new normal


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    That's incredibly Ableist of you.

    how dare you bring my name into it...I'm offended


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I used to roll my eyes when anyone uttered "it's PC gone mad, innit?". But in the last year or two, it seems PC really has gone mad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Oh my god. Letters....... the horror of it...... it's a disgrace Joe letters Joe. Its outrageous they want letters. How dare they have letters Joe.

    Wait until they use all 26, what will happen then? And the worse thing is that at that point they won't have reached peak stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Yeah this kind of pandering is getting out of hand now. There's a difference between genuine equality and just going off the deep end and this is the kind of stupid carryon that pisses NORMAL people off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Infini wrote: »
    Yeah this kind of pandering is getting out of hand now. There's a difference between genuine equality and just going off the deep end and this is the kind of stupid carryon that pisses NORMAL people off.

    Are you allowed call people, people anymore. It might offend them as they associate themselves as beings or some other crazy term


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,106 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I like Ladles and Jellyspoons myself.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,257 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I'm genuinely baffled that people are so pissed off, they're simply going to start saying 'Hello everyone' from now on.

    It's not as if they've gone full Tumblr and have started saying Xe/Xer and that stuff to people getting on.

    Why do you all care?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,118 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I'm genuinely baffled that people are so pissed off, they're simply going to start saying 'Hello everyone' from now on.

    It's not as if they've gone full Tumblr and have started saying Xe/Xer and that stuff to people getting on.

    Why do you all care?

    As I said the absurdity of people being outraged about people being outraged.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I'm genuinely baffled that people are so pissed off, they're simply going to start saying 'Hello everyone' from now on.

    It's not as if they've gone full Tumblr and have started saying Xe/Xer and that stuff to people getting on.

    Why do you all care?

    I don't care, really, about how London Underground wants to address its passengers. It could start announcements with "Yo Dudes!" for all it matters. What exasperates me is the statement it put out saying "We have reviewed the language that we use in announcements and elsewhere and will make sure that it is fully inclusive, reflecting the great diversity of London."

    The implication being that the time honoured "Ladies and Gentlemen" is not "fully inclusive" and therefore possibly discriminatory at worst and ill mannered at best.

    Here's the thing: if anybody ever seriously objects (and it may never happen) to me addressing a mixed crowd of whatever size as "Ladies and Gentlemen" on the grounds that I am not being inclusive enough, I'm going to give her a good kick in the bollix.

    Fair enough?


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