Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Spudman_20000

Watched the media scrum with Floyd. Interesting when he mentioned Conor's weight and his plan to switch from southpaw in the fight.

I wonder if that's true, and if so, who's the rat in Conor's camp?

Gamebred

Conor's face looks very drawn out in that video he posted on instagram.

Ultimate Seduction

Spudman_20000 wrote:

I wonder if that's true, and if so, who's the rat in Conor's camp?

It's easy enough to predict Conor weighs around 160 now, and I think everyone knows he will try switching stances and do some capoeira dance moves early on.

wonderfullife

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Even with a good boxing guard, Floyd has the hand speed, timing and accuracy to land punches on elite fighters all night long

So you're saying even if Conor tries to change his game to carry a high boxing guard, Floyd will still pick him apart.

Why bother so? May as well just fight in a way that comes naturally to him.

Gamebred wrote: »

Conor's face looks very drawn out in that video he posted on instagram.

He deleted it from his instagram and twitter, maybe it contravened advertising policy. That little welt on the bridge of his nose isn't getting any better. He's had it for nearly 10 days now and it's just getting worse.

I still think Conor would have been better advised coming in closer to 170lbs than the 159lbs Lockhart says he's coming in at. The fact they're coming in light and also requesting an international judge, is a hint to me that they're anticipating this could go 12-rounds. Put it this way, for the Nate rematch Conor said publicly that he'll stop Nate inside 2 rounds but you could tell the whole camp knew it was going to be the full 25 minutes.

If he beats Floyd on points, he may as well just run for President of the Earth.

EagererBeaver

wonderfullife wrote: »

So you're saying even if Conor tries to change his game to carry a high boxing guard, Floyd will still pick him apart.

Why bother so? May as well just fight in a way that comes naturally to him.

It's really very simple, but I suspect you know that and are being deliberately disingenuous.

No guard - Floyd lands at will, barely having to use any of the skills at all know he has.

Guard - Floyd has to work for it. He'll still hit him of course, but nobody is suggesting it's the same.

Eyes Down Field

Spudman_20000 wrote: »

Watched the media scrum with Floyd. Interesting when he mentioned Conor's weight and his plan to switch from southpaw in the fight.

I wonder if that's true, and if so, who's the rat in Conor's camp?

It wouldn't surprise me if Mayweather dis have a rat very close to the McGregor camp. Especially in Las Vegas.

wonderfullife

EagererBeaver wrote: »

It's really very simple, but I suspect you know that and are being deliberately disingenuous.

No guard - Floyd lands at will, barely having to use any of the skills at all know he has.

Guard - Floyd has to work for it. He'll still hit him of course, but nobody is suggesting it's the same.

I don't think it's that simple at all. For a start, Conor doesn't have "no guard", he has a very specific type of guard that he makes work but even in MMA he's always been hittable.

Conor's entire fighting style is based on his a) stance and b) guard c) range. He held it a bit higher in the Nate rematch and he'll hold it a bit higher again this time but his low, wide guard is a big reason he's had so much success.

Pause it at 7:53 below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ell6YSwk1s

Conor throws a right uppercut, left straight which lands cleanly on Max but his left hand was nowhere near protecting his head. It was low as it always is.

Pause it at 1:51 here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Qalnvf3Og

Again, we see Conor with his low guard. He exchanges punches with Dustin but beats him to the punch, landing his straight left hand plum on his ear while Dustin's right hook over the guard doesn't land cleanly with any force.

If you've spent a decade timing counters and punches from a wide, open guard, it would be crazy to spend an entire camp learning to fight a different way.

The best Conor can do, in my opinion, is hold his hands a little bit higher in defensive positions but he's still going to carry that left hand ridiculously low by boxing standards.

Eyes Down Field

What will absolutely kill McGregor is his lack of hand speed and accuracy. Floyd has hand speed and accuracy like nothing Conor has ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yaiFEZxLMQ

walshb

Conor's lack of hand speed will make this fight nothing more than a casual spar for Floyd...

Gamebred

Hand speed wont be the reason he will lose, since when did Chino Maidana have lightening handspeed.

walshb

Gamebred wrote: »

Hand speed wont be the reason he will lose, since when did Chino Maidana have lightening handspeed.

It will be one of the reasons...And considering most think his only hope is a KO, which is generally a fast shot that the opponent doesn't see, then it's the main reason for Conor that he cannot win.

Plenty other reasons too.

Even giving Conor much faster hands and he still likely gets beaten silly.

wonderfullife

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

What will absolutely kill McGregor is his lack of hand speed and accuracy. Floyd has hand speed and accuracy like nothing Conor has ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yaiFEZxLMQ

Conor's accuracy is insanely good so no idea where you're pulling that from.

Yes, he has vastly inferior hand-speed to Floyd but that's true of almost everyone Floyd would fight. They said Maidana had no hope because of his comically slow hand-speed compared to Floyd's, that he'd be butchered, but he took that first fight to an extremely close decision.

wonderfullife

walshb wrote: »

Even giving Conor much faster hands and he still likely gets beaten silly.

Even giving Conor 4 hands and X-Men mutant powers you'll still be saying he has no chance.

We get it. You think he'll lose.

Tinie

wonderfullife wrote: »

Conor's accuracy is insanely good so no idea where you're pulling that from.

Is it not a far bit easier to be "insanely accurate" when the guys your fighting arent weaving and dodging to the same level as a top level boxer? Ive said it from day one, but I think Conor will be punching at air for 99% of this fight before becoming wrecked.

Lukker-

Tinie wrote: »

Is it not a far bit easier to be "insanely accurate" when the guys your fighting arent weaving and dodging to the same level as a top level boxer? Ive said it from day one, but I think Conor will be punching at air for 99% of this fight before becoming wrecked.

You don't have to weave in MMA because you stand much further away. So it's considerably easier to move away from shots too.

Outlaw Pete

Spudman_20000 wrote: »

I wonder if that's true, and if so, who's the rat in Conor's camp?

Appears to be someone leaking stuff anyway if this is anything to go by and was most likely what Paulie was referring to yesterday with his 'not again' tweet............

SOURCE SAYS TEAM MCGREGOR HAS "PIECED TOGETHER" EDITED FOOTAGE OF MALIGNAGGI SPARRING; MAY RELEASE DOCTORED VIDEO

According to a source with a direct connection to Team McGregor, members of the team have spent the past several days piecing together a short 2 to 3-minute clip of his second sparring session with multi-division former world champion Paulie Malignaggi. Ever since Team McGregor first leaked unflattering photos of the session, Malignaggi has been adamant that he "beat McGregor's ass", going so far as to demand that the UFC release the full unedited footage of the 12-round encounter. It took several days before a member of Team McGregor, an amateur sparring partner by the name of Tiernan Bradley, finally countered Malignaggi's claim, suggesting that it was actually McGregor who got the upper hand during the session.

Thus far, there has been no footage of the sparring session, but it looks like Team McGregor is in the process of changing that. "It's like a bunch of 10-second clips of some of his best moments that they pieced together; kind of like they did with the South African kid," the source informed us. For those that aren't familiar with the story, the "South African kid" that the source is referring to is welterweight contender Chris Van Heerden, who was one of the first professional boxers to spar with McGregor.

Footage of their sparring session first surfaced on the internet over a year ago and at first glance, McGregor appeared to have success against the ranked contender. That was until Van Heerden exposed the video with his own unedited footage of the full session. In Van Heerden's version, it was clear that it was McGregor who was getting touched up badly by the professional boxer. Van Heerden himself has been critical of McGregor's attempt to present the false impression that he got the upper hand in sparring, so it should come as no surprise that the UFC star is now doing the exact same thing with Malignaggi.

EagererBeaver

Tinie wrote: »

Is it not a far bit easier to be "insanely accurate" when the guys your fighting arent weaving and dodging to the same level as a top level boxer? Ive said it from day one, but I think Conor will be punching at air for 99% of this fight before becoming wrecked.

Lukker- wrote: »

You don't have to weave in MMA because you stand much further away. So it's considerably easier to move away from shots too.

Jesus, look at that. Rational, logical thought. Doesn't matter though because McGregor is "insanely accurate". Just ignore the fact that his accuracy is in a different sport.

Richard tea

Is Conor having an open media workout like Floyd had yesterday?

EagererBeaver

Richard tea wrote: »

Is Conor having an open media workout like Floyd had yesterday?

Pool noodles and touch butt coming up.

Frank Bullitt

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Appears to be someone leaking stuff anyway if this is anything to go by and was most likely what Paulie was referring to yesterday with his 'not again' tweet............

Someone had better look over Paulie when/if its released. He'll have a stroke.

Boom_Bap

Richard tea wrote: »

Is Conor having an open media workout like Floyd had yesterday?

Think it's happening today, was supposed to be Wednesday but they cancelled it and rescheduled for today in the UFC gym

Outlaw Pete

Gintonious wrote: »

Someone had better look over Paulie when/if its released. He'll have a stroke.

He might have one tonight if the All Access episode even suggests that McGregor got the better of him.

The voice of the guy who narrates it is so serious too and si it'll be hilarious if he references almost anything Paulie has said in the media.

Frank Bullitt

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

He might have one tonight if the All Access episode even suggests that McGregor got the better of him.

The voice of the guy who narrates it is so serious too and si it'll be hilarious if he references almost anything Paulie has said in the media.

Forgot about the All Access episode.

Most people love Fridays, Paulie probably won't be loving this.

Outlaw Pete

Classic :P Should be a good episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA96sGdF0DM

Jerichoholic

See my vest! I really love the vest.

Outlaw Pete

https://twitter.com/BoxingKingdom14/status/895986769149087744

Gamebred

Be surprised if Conor actually does a boxing workout today, wont wanna give stuff away.

JJayoo

Gamebred wrote: »

Be surprised if Conor actually does a boxing workout today, wont wanna give stuff away.

You mean the punching? Ya best keep that secret

Eyes Down Field

Gamebred wrote: »

Hand speed wont be the reason he will lose, since when did Chino Maidana have lightening handspeed.

Maidana was an elite boxer, He's a two weight world champion, with boxing skills far superior to McGregor and allot more power. And Floyd beat him twice. So what's your point?

everlast75

Gamebred wrote: »

Be surprised if Conor actually does a boxing workout today, wont wanna give stuff away.

He will "give away" exactly what he wants FM to see and nothing more