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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Wait til ya see the tracksuit he's wearing... even I can't spin that too positively :pac:


    I seen a clip there of it some mad floral thing, probably dearer than a months mortgage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    dulux99 wrote: »
    I'm surprised he looked THIS bad. I did not expect him to be blowing after 3 or 4 rounds on a heavy bag. And this is coming from a huge mcgregor fan....although not huge enough to invest in the conor mcgregor FAST plan mind you

    I do like Conor but he's not only out of his league here..he's in a different game as well...I'm not suprised

    The general idea hes been putting forward is to him it's easier because he hasn't to worry about all the other MMA threats...but thats a unrealistic view ..he's been fully focused on boxing for a few months...Floyd's focused his entire life

    The way I see it, Mcgregor a jack of all trades but a master of none (skillset wise) he's a good mma striker (there's better) and has a decent fight iq but Floyd is a master at his craft.. And the comparison is evident when viewing workouts side to side


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    .ak wrote: »
    Anyone see the crazy photography up in the rafters?? Hahah mad b***h

    https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/896157257703997440


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    pone2012 wrote: »

    The way I see it, Mcgregor a jack of all trades but a master of none (skillset wise) he's a good mma striker (there's better) and has a decent fight iq but Floyd is a master at his craft.. And the comparison is evident when viewing workouts side to side


    I think his fight IQ is probably the best in mma in any of them divisions 145 tru to 170, a master striker who is in a league of his own when it comes to timing a left hand onto someone, his record of beating Holloway Aldo and Alvarez alone with ease is unprecedented.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Artem on his birthday, predicts Conor in the 6th round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Holloway was a long time ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Jesus Wept wrote: »
    Holloway was a long time ago.


    Will still go down as his best win in mma when its all said and done, hes won 11 in a row since and butchered Aldo who looked at his best previously at UFC200, nobody has beaten that level of fighter as consistently as McGregor has barring Jones in mma imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Artem on his birthday, predicts Conor in the 6th round.


    'become the undisputed best boxer of all time' :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    pone2012 wrote: »
    The way I see it, Mcgregor a jack of all trades but a master of none (skillset wise) he's a good mma striker (there's better) and has a decent fight iq but Floyd is a master at his craft.. And the comparison is evident when viewing workouts side to side

    Skill for skill, Poirier, Mendes, Aldo, Nate and Eddie should probably have beaten Conor.

    If you break it down, he isn't a better pure wrestler than any of the above, isn't better at jiujitsu than any of the above and, at the time he fought them, had arguably the less-rounded striking compared to Dustin, Jose and Nate - where striking obviously encompasses kicking, punching, elbows etc.

    The fact Floyd is a masterful boxer doesn't mean he will win, it just means he should win.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Will still go down as his best win in mma when its all said and done, hes won 11 in a row since and butchered Aldo who looked at his best previously at UFC200, nobody has beaten that level of fighter as consistently as McGregor has barring Jones in mma imo.

    Jones and Mcgregor are worlds apart Gamebred.. Jones is arguably a top contender for the GOAT title..

    Conor Mcgregor does not enter that discussion...exposing the sport and holding two titles simultaneously because you refuse to defend one is not the stuff GOATS are made of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Some bleeden shower. Is he bathing in milk.....

    He looked great on the bags with plenty left in the tank. Did he do 12 rounds? I missed the start of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Jones and Mcgregor are worlds apart Gamebred.. Jones is arguably a top contender for the GOAT title..

    Conor Mcgregor does not enter that discussion...exposing the sport and holding two titles simultaneously because you refuse to defend one is not the stuff GOATS are made of

    Jose Aldo, Eddie Alvarez and Max Holloway are all going to end up in the UFC Hall of Fame.

    Conor isn't "worlds apart" from Jones - he's 2 wins away from in the discussion. If he could either take the welterweight title and/or defeat Khabib/Ferguson, he'd be automatically in that discussion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I dunno about Eddie Alvarez there on being in the hall of fame


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Really looking forward to the Dominick Cruz breakdown, he filmed a technical breakdown of the fight with Andre Berto last week, not sure when it's airing but here's a sneak peek of filming:



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    Skill for skill, Poirier, Mendes, Aldo, Nate and Eddie should probably have beaten Conor.

    If you break it down, he isn't a better pure wrestler than any of the above, isn't better at jiujitsu than any of the above and, at the time he fought them, had arguably the less-rounded striking compared to Dustin, Jose and Nate - where striking obviously encompasses kicking, punching, elbows etc.

    The fact Floyd is a masterful boxer doesn't mean he will win, it just means he should win.

    Diaz beat him ( and Conor scraped that second one)

    An out of shape Mendes almost beat him, and might have if he didn't gas out..who knows

    Eddie lost because hes a wrestler and he tried striking against a better striker. Plain and simple..he panicked and got badly punished for it

    Aldo was KO'd after one punch.. And refused a rematch..it's no suprise why

    Porier should have beat him why? I'd rank Conor a better striker

    All of the above is irrelevant anyway (except Diaz) when it comes to boxing..but I just thought I'd have the courtesy to respond

    Now we know you are the ultimate fanboy wonder , but tell me this..

    Does Conor have better striking ability than Mayweather? NO

    Has he a higher fight iq? NO

    Has he got experience on his side? NO

    Is he fitter? NO

    The list goes on and on and on

    So, on what basis has he got a hope of beating Mayweather?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I dunno about Eddie Alvarez there on being in the hall of fame

    Dream Grand Prix finalist (and didn't fight the final due to injury), Bodog World Champion at 170lbs, Bellator and UFC World Champion at 155lbs...

    I mean... if Sakuraba is getting into the UFC Hall of Fame based on a couple of fights in the UFC, then Eddie is a certainty for his achievements in MMA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    Jose Aldo, Eddie Alvarez and Max Holloway are all going to end up in the UFC Hall of Fame.

    Conor isn't "worlds apart" from Jones - he's 2 wins away from in the discussion. If he could either take the welterweight title and/or defeat Khabib/Ferguson, he'd be automatically in that discussion.

    He has 3 losses on his record...all losses

    Jones has never been beaten, only a dq

    That is worlds apart.. 300% more losses


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    pone2012 wrote: »
    Diaz beat him ( and Conor scraped that second one)

    An out of shape Mendes almost beat him, and might have if he didn't gas out..who knows



    At what point exactly did he almost beat him? by lying in his guard throwing a few elbows? jesus if thats the case every fighter nearly gets beat every fight then absolute bs, got takedowns on an clearly out of shape injured McGregor and still got ko'd.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    pone2012 wrote: »
    He has 3 losses on his record...all losses

    Jones has never been beaten, only a dq

    That is worlds apart.. 300% more losses


    Records are your idea of a great fighter? that tells me enough about your knowledge on mma,

    Notice you left out his steroid conviction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Dream Grand Prix finalist (and didn't fight the final due to injury), Bodog World Champion at 170lbs, Bellator and UFC World Champion at 155lbs...

    I mean... if Sakuraba is getting into the UFC Hall of Fame based on a couple of fights in the UFC, then Eddie is a certainty for his achievements in MMA.

    Did you really just compare Eddie Alvarez to Sakuraba?

    You've officially gone off the deep end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Records are your idea of a great fighter? that tells me enough about your knowledge on mma,

    Notice you left out his steroid conviction.

    Forget the records, Jones' accomplishments in MMA dwarf Conor's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    pone2012 wrote: »

    Does Conor have better striking ability than Mayweather? NO

    Has he a higher fight iq? NO

    Has he got experience on his side? NO

    Is he fitter? NO

    The list goes on and on and on

    So, on what basis has he got a hope of beating Mayweather?

    Roger Federer v Sergiy Stakhovsky Wimbledon, 2013.

    Did Sergiy have a better serve? NO
    Did he have a better forehand? NO
    Did he have a better backhand? NO
    Did he have a better dropshot? NO
    Did he have superior fitness? NO
    Did he have superior footwork? NO

    Roger had superior everything on paper and still lost.

    It happens in every single sport.

    Man Utd have lost to non-league teams in football.
    Ronnie O' Sullivan has lost to amateurs in snooker.
    Munster beat the All Blacks in 1978.

    Larry Holmes was 48-0 when he faced Michael Spinks and was supposed to be superior everywhere. He lost.

    Oscar de la Hoya was supposed to beat the breaks off the midget Pacquiao.

    Roberto Duran was supposed to be too slow, too old, too stuck in the mud, a shot fighter yet he beat the crap out of Davey Moore.


    Sport isn't decided on paper - if it was, we would never watch it. Floyd can have all the advantages he wants and he can still lose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Django99


    Did you really just compare Eddie Alvarez to Sakuraba?

    You've officially gone off the deep end.

    Eddies status in MMA history has somehow increased hugely since losing to McGregor. In reality he was one of the weakest champs ever at 155, barring the RDA fight his UFC run has been atrocious.

    A comprehensive defeat to Cowboy, two very close and very uneventful decisions against Pettis and Melendez where his output was almost as bad as Woodley v Maia and he still only got split decisions. Granted a very good performance against RDA. Completely outclassed v McGregor and he wasn't far from being stopped by Poirier, and should really have it go down as a loss anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Did you really just compare Eddie Alvarez to Sakuraba?

    You've officially gone off the deep end.

    You've officially lost the ability to read, congratulations.

    Sakuraba was entered into the UFC Hall of Fame, despite only having fought in the UFC once. He didn't do enough strictly in the UFC to earn a spot in the Hall of Fame but they allowed him into it because of his outside achievements.

    Eddie Alvarez IMO has not done enough in the UFC to warrant a Hall-of-Fame spot but when his outside achievements are added, he fully deserves it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Forget the records, Jones' accomplishments in MMA dwarf Conor's.


    Completely disagree, dwarfs them is really reaching, his usada ban as with Andersons has tainted their legacys.


  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Django99


    Roger Federer v Sergiy Stakhovsky Wimbledon, 2013.

    Did Sergiy have a better serve? NO
    Did he have a better forehand? NO
    Did he have a better backhand? NO
    Did he have a better dropshot? NO
    Did he have superior fitness? NO
    Did he have superior footwork? NO

    Roger had superior everything on paper and still lost.

    It happens in every single sport.

    Man Utd have lost to non-league teams in football.
    Ronnie O' Sullivan has lost to amateurs in snooker.
    Munster beat the All Blacks in 1978.

    Larry Holmes was 48-0 when he faced Michael Spinks and was supposed to be superior everywhere. He lost.

    Oscar de la Hoya was supposed to beat the breaks off the midget Pacquiao.

    Roberto Duran was supposed to be too slow, too old, too stuck in the mud, a shot fighter yet he beat the crap out of Davey Moore.


    Sport isn't decided on paper - if it was, we would never watch it. Floyd can have all the advantages he wants and he can still lose.

    All very true, upsets can and do happen.

    So what if I say this - if McGregor and Mayweather fought MMA rules in the octagon, it would be ridiculous to write off Mayweather because anything can happen in sport. He could land a clean punch within 10 seconds and knock McGregor unconscious. It would be foolish to disregard his chances of doing this.

    Now I wouldn't ever say the above at all, I think if it was an MMA fight it would be ridiculous to give Mayweather a chance, even though there is a possibility of the above happening. But we should be realistic when we assess the chances of someone winning, and when we're realistic in assessing Mayweather v McGregor in a boxing match, there is no rational argument to suggest McGregor should be competitive in any way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    McGregor's always ****ing late..... remember that docu he got a call in his bedroom:
    "Yeah, I'm on the M50........ Wha?....... That's the radio you mad thing......... Ah, I'm just getting petol, be there 20 minutes


    He's out..... and Conor Jnr's in the house.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    Roger Federer v Sergiy Stakhovsky Wimbledon, 2013.

    Did Sergiy have a better serve? NO
    Did he have a better forehand? NO
    Did he have a better backhand? NO
    Did he have a better dropshot? NO
    Did he have superior fitness? NO
    Did he have superior footwork? NO

    Roger had superior everything on paper and still lost.

    It happens in every single sport.

    Man Utd have lost to non-league teams in football.
    Ronnie O' Sullivan has lost to amateurs in snooker.
    Munster beat the All Blacks in 1978.

    Larry Holmes was 48-0 when he faced Michael Spinks and was supposed to be superior everywhere. He lost.

    Oscar de la Hoya was supposed to beat the breaks off the midget Pacquiao.

    Roberto Duran was supposed to be too slow, too old, too stuck in the mud, a shot fighter yet he beat the crap out of Davey Moore.


    Sport isn't decided on paper - if it was, we would never watch it. Floyd can have all the advantages he wants and he can still lose.

    Except both of those are tennis players..and Conor Mcgregor is not a boxer

    Try again...this time use a representative comparison


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