Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

EagererBeaver

Naos wrote: »

You do realise he could literally crawl over to Floyd and take him down right? Or hit him with an imanari roll? He just need to snag a foot, it's not that difficult and Floyd would have a very hard time punching down considering he wouldn't be used to it.

Of course he could. Alternatively, the world class boxer could potentially throw one punch at him in 4oz gloves and put his lights out.

EagererBeaver

thewheel2.0 wrote: »

Fair enough, most people are of the opinion that it will be quite the crazy spectacle to witness even if there is an element of freakshow/circus about it. I thought you "liked" MMA? Embrace the chaos of it all

I think the whole show and event will be quite the spectacle. I'm not entirely sure the actual boxing match will be.

wonderfullife

No helmet and rowing technique even worse (more inefficient) than before

Gerry Byrne's technique very good. Why can't he have a quiet word with Conor...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZIuIWmUB_s

.ak

I doubt he cares, that's why.

normanoffside

GerryDerpy wrote: »

An intelligent man wouldn't gamble borrowed money.

Visa Debit

wonderfullife

.ak wrote: »

I doubt he cares, that's why.

True, it's just weird... $100 million fight and he's expending probably anywhere from 10-20% more energy than necessary due to his bad technique (according to a rower I asked online but maybe he pulled that stat from thin air). Something that could be fixed in what, 30 seconds if someone showed him how to do it.

Gamebred

Nobody has the balls to correct him Wonder you know this, I seen his photographer fogarty got some tattoo with one of Conors quotes pmsl.

Swashbuckler

wonderfullife wrote:

expending probably anywhere from 10-20% more energy than necessary.

Isn't that exactly the point though?

Richard tea

wonderfullife wrote: »

No helmet and rowing technique even worse (more inefficient) than before

Gerry Byrne's technique very good. Why can't he have a quiet word with Conor...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZIuIWmUB_s

The rowing is dreadful. Im surprised his coaching team havent sorted it out. Surely he is at a higher risk from bad technique.

Unless and its a big unless this is a proven rowing technique. Has boards a rowing thread?

normanoffside

El Caballo wrote: »

At 19 years of age, Floyd Mayweather had an Olympic Bronze Medal and Conor McGregor had an underage All-ireland,

no he never had an All Ireland medal. He won an underage Dublin Novice Medal.

EagererBeaver

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Isn't that exactly the point though?

Precisely. He's not trying to improve as a rower, he's trying to push his heart rate to a particular level. Doesn't need to be Steve Redgrave.

Still, given he's ten days out from a boxing match, his ****e form probably has a higher risk of injury.

Besides, I thought the versa climber was the machine all elite athletes are using to push their cardio these days.

EagererBeaver

Gamebred wrote: »

Nobody has the balls to correct him Wonder you know this, I seen his photographer fogarty got some tattoo with one of Conors quotes pmsl.

Ffs

rogieop

Richard tea wrote: »

The rowing is dreadful. Im surprised his coaching team havent sorted it out. Surely he is at a higher risk from bad technique.

Unless and its a big unless this is a proven rowing technique. Has boards a rowing thread?

The technique is extremely poor. However he isnt training to row across the Atlantic, he is simply there to elevate his heart rate and improve his cardio which regardless of form he will achieve..

wonderfullife

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Isn't that exactly the point though?

Think of it in terms of punches. If you can throw 50 punches and win round 1, that's much better than throwing 60 punches to do it, especially over a 12-round contest.

Same principle. The more energy he wastes due to bad technique, it's going to cost him in the long run.

Richard tea wrote: »

The rowing is dreadful. Im surprised his coaching team havent sorted it out. Surely he is at a higher risk from bad technique.

Unless and its a big unless this is a proven rowing technique. Has boards a rowing thread?

I asked around some amateur rowers on the internet and they think his technique is an absolute laughing stock - risking lower back issues on top of wasting so much energy.

I'm no scientist but the way he's rowing he's pulling back while his body is moving forwards. He's working against himself.

The proper technique is broken down into 4-parts:

Catch
Drive
Finish
Recovery

You're supposed to be at full extension of your legs and your bum stationary at the finish position. Conor is all over the place.

SMH. I don't get it.

Richard tea

rogieop wrote: »

The technique is extremely poor. However he isnt training to row across the Atlantic, he is simply there to elevate his heart rate and improve his cardio which regardless of form he will achieve..

Im more worried about an injury. Is he at a higher risk of injury rowing like that?

Swashbuckler

wonderfullife wrote:

Think of it in terms of punches. If you can throw 50 punches and win round 1, that's much better than throwing 60 punches to do it, especially over a 12-round contest.

My understanding was that he just wants to be in the max heart rate zone for a period of time. And the rowing achieves that , poor technique or not.

Eyes Down Field

wonderfullife wrote:

True, it's just weird... $100 million fight and he's expending probably anywhere from 10-20% more energy than necessary due to his bad technique (according to a rower I asked online but maybe he pulled that stat from thin air). Something that could be fixed in what, 30 seconds if someone showed him how to do it.

I think it's a mistake by the McGregor camp not to bring in a proper boxing trainer. Not that it would make much difference to the outcome of this fight, but might have helped him learn some basics, to at least avoid disqualification.

Gamebred

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

I think it's a mistake by the McGregor camp not to bring in a proper boxing trainer. Not that it would make much difference to the outcome of this fight, but might have helped him learn some basics, to at least avoid disqualification.

He's not some idiot he doesnt need someone to teach him he knows the rules, weather he plays to them is another discussion altogether.

rogieop

Richard tea wrote: »

Im more worried about an injury. Is he at a higher risk of injury rowing like that?

Possibly for his lower back, maybe considering how flexible he is and all the stretching he does he is at less risk? Ive seen a few of the other SBG lads at the same, Keifer crosbie is one that springs to mind. I think they just dont care about technique once they are getting their heart rate going.

Ross Pearson is another one, i watch some of his training videos and im screaming at the screen. These lads flipping tyres with completely rounded backs etc etc. Its madness.

And while im at it check out some of Rio Ferdinands "home work outs" and this guy has a full time trainer with him Technique all over the place.

.ak

wonderfullife wrote: »

Think of it in terms of punches. If you can throw 50 punches and win round 1, that's much better than throwing 60 punches to do it, especially over a 12-round contest.

Same principle. The more energy he wastes due to bad technique, it's going to cost him in the long run.



I asked around some amateur rowers on the internet and they think his technique is an absolute laughing stock - risking lower back issues on top of wasting so much energy.

I'm no scientist but the way he's rowing he's pulling back while his body is moving forwards. He's working against himself.

The proper technique is broken down into 4-parts:

Catch
Drive
Finish
Recovery

You're supposed to be at full extension of your legs and your bum stationary at the finish position. Conor is all over the place.

SMH. I don't get it.

As the poster said above, that's only wasted energy if he was actually rowing somewhere. He's not going to row Mayweather to death, it's just serving as a purpose to raise heart rate and maintain it.

wonderfullife

.ak wrote: »

As the poster said above, that's only wasted energy if he was actually rowing somewhere. He's not going to row Mayweather to death, it's just serving as a purpose to raise heart rate and maintain it.

He has an underwater treadmill to use, why waste energy on the rower ...

The underwater treadmill is apparently really good for being gentle on the muscles etc and he won't hurt his back.

Ah I don't even know why I care about his rowing technique but I do. Similar story when I see people use "you're" instead of "your". It just annoys me :pac:

Swashbuckler

wonderfullife wrote:

The underwater treadmill is apparently really good for being gentle on the muscles etc and he won't hurt his back.

The rowing, I'd imagine, will make him hit peak heart rate more quickly. Takes longer on a treadmill.
I don't disagree with your point of his technique being poor but it really doesn't matter as it serves it's purpose.

sc86

any chance off keeping boxin fans to boxing forum
mma fans to mma forum

its at least a week since and sensible disccusion and gettin worse by the day

EagererBeaver

I presume the rower is used because it's part of the conditioning program he flogs.

raze_them_all_

sc86 wrote: »

any chance off keeping boxin fans to boxing forum
mma fans to mma forum

its at least a week since and sensible disccusion and gettin worse by the day

that is stupid suggestion. People can be both, boxing fans will have more of an insight on mayweather than you

wonderfullife

sc86 wrote: »

any chance off keeping boxin fans to boxing forum
mma fans to mma forum

its at least a week since and sensible disccusion and gettin worse by the day

You'll see a mass exodus if Conor lands the left hand and beats Floyd :pac:

EagererBeaver

wonderfullife wrote: »

You'll see a mass exodus if Conor lands the left hand and beats Floyd :pac:

A few lads round here will be keeping pretty quiet if he loses too...

CatFromHue

rogieop wrote: »

The technique is extremely poor. However he isnt training to row across the Atlantic, he is simply there to elevate his heart rate and improve his cardio which regardless of form he will achieve..

every clip I've seen of him on the rowing machine, granted there's only a few, and he has awful technique in all of them.

.ak

wonderfullife wrote: »

He has an underwater treadmill to use, why waste energy on the rower ...

The underwater treadmill is apparently really good for being gentle on the muscles etc and he won't hurt his back.

Ah I don't even know why I care about his rowing technique but I do. Similar story when I see people use "you're" instead of "your". It just annoys me :pac:

It takes ages to setup. Ya can just hop on a rower or a bike anyitme.

CatFromHue

.ak wrote: »

As the poster said above, that's only wasted energy if he was actually rowing somewhere. He's not going to row Mayweather to death, it's just serving as a purpose to raise heart rate and maintain it.

tethered swimming will also get your heart rate up