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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    If there isn't a Fosbury moment It will be very disappointing.

    Remember the Italians against England in the 6 nations this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Whelo79 wrote: »
    This exactly. Robin Black discusses that too. People get blinded by what everyone else is doing until some innovator comes along with a new interpretation and changes everything.

    Soccer formations when the game first started were 3 Defenders, 7 attackers. That evolved to the standard 4-4-2 for decades then someone came along with 3-5-2 which was successful for a while. Dick Fosbury and the Fosbury flop is a great example.

    There is a lot more scope to the boxing rule set than what you see in your every day boxing match. Just because that works now does not mean it's the only way to approach a fight and that seems to be what McGregor and his team are planning.



    Yeah Conor is going to change boxing as we see it forever


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Both feet have to be on the ground when punching in boxing so dont expect any flying Werdum style charges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Think conors lack of head movement will be his end. Can see a corner stoppage around round 7 - 8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Yeah Conor is going to change boxing as we see it forever

    Its really astonishing stuff to read at times. People really (and hopelessly) bought into the hype.
    ricero wrote: »
    Think conors lack of head movement will be his end. Can see a corner stoppage around round 7 - 8

    Conor will do well to last that long. Regardless of how much pressure Mayweather is putting on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    The Nal wrote: »
    Its really astonishing stuff to read at times. People really (and hopelessly) bought into the hype.



    Conor will do well to last that long. Regardless of how much pressure Mayweather is putting on.

    Could end quicker if floyd wants it over with quick but i reckon he will take his time and try embaress mcgregor. Mcgregor is a tough guy so reckon he toughs it out until his corner throws in the towel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    The Nal wrote: »
    Oh I agree 100%, I'm just commenting on the speculation that hes going to introduce some new style thats going to revolutionise boxing.

    Got to hand it to the man and his success that people are thinking like that.

    He doesn't need to introduce a new style to revolutionise boxing.

    He needs to execute a style unique enough in a boxing ring to beat Floyd Mayweather on one particular night.

    Bottom line whatever style he fights in, he has to land his fists on Floyd's face.
    JoeyJJ wrote: »
    So in short we will never really know if what you are saying is what you really believe. hmmmm

    The beautiful thing about an open mind is the ability to change opinions.

    If Floyd dances around Conor and makes a fool of him, I'd be foolish myself to maintain the opinion Conor could ever beat an elite boxer in boxing :)

    We'll find out in 10 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79


    Yeah Conor is going to change boxing as we see it forever

    Why aren't you open to the possibility? I don't know if he will or not, chances are he won't. But this seems to be the angle he is approaching it from.

    Who was the first person in boxing to decide to hold a high guard? Boxing purists are such high level specialists on an extremely specific understanding of boxing rules that they can not see beyond it and are not open to alternative ways of approaching the fight.

    Again, why are you not open to the possibility? Many single individuals have changed the approach to many sports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,990 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    ricero wrote: »
    Could end quicker if floyd wants it over with quick but i reckon he will take his time and try embaress mcgregor. Mcgregor is a tough guy so reckon he toughs it out until his corner throws in the towel

    When it gets to round 7 and Conor hasn't won one of them yeah. Think it'll be stopped well before that though. He'll just get hit too often.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Wonder I watched some Robin Black there he makes some good general points about innovators coming along and changing things but he over analyzes everything hes comparing air bnb to McGregor going in there and boxing its far fetched bluffing to fill minutes, I think he just loves the sound of his own voice tbh.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭CitizenFloor


    Kenny Florian saying something I said last week and got roundly mocked for :pac: He thinks Conor might do some spinning attacks, capoeira movements and faint some kicks.



    Something like this perhaps...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh6iaigSXBU&t=71m11s

    Not sure if it would throw Mayweather off, or if McGregor would just walk into a walk into a fist. But, I think he will try something too....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79


    Does anyone think the bigger distance between boxers is going to effect Floyd in any way? Will he find it hard to read/time McGregors approach or will his own offense suffer trying to close the distance and negate the reach advantage.

    I think McGregor is going to close distance quicker than anyone Floyd has fought before. Its very possible McGregor just ends up running onto the end of Floyd's fist 9 times out of 10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,055 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Whelo79 wrote: »
    Does anyone think the bigger distance between boxers is going to effect Floyd in any way? Will he find it hard to read/time McGregors approach or will his own offense suffer trying to close the distance and negate the reach advantage.

    I think McGregor is going to close distance quicker than anyone Floyd has flight before. Its very possible McGregor just ends up running onto the end of Floyd's fist 9 times out of 10.

    Floyd needs dodge 10 out of 10 times - McGregor only needs to be lucky once...

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    I'd love show it of them shorts in conors press workout. Fake pair of course lol. I already seen fakes of his red bath robe online before so I'm guessing I'll see the shorts too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,609 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Whelo79 wrote: »
    I think McGregor is going to close distance quicker than anyone Floyd has flight before. Its very possible McGregor just ends up running onto the end of Floyd's fist 9 times out of 10.

    I agree with the second sentence.

    I don't think Conor's feet are faster than many that Floyd has fought as regards boxing feet and positioning and forward/forward-lateral movement.

    Conor is going to play this like:

    Comes out and tries to KO Floyd by getting close enough to wing shots. Realises he cannot, and realise he is getting picked apart. He will then resort to movement in all directions. Trying to be as unpredictable as possible. Throwing less and less as the beating continues. As gets more and more tired and helpless as regards offense, he will succumb to Floyd's shots or be pulled out mid rds by his corner....

    It's either that or a 12 rds dance...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    walshb wrote: »

    It's either that or a 12 rds dance...



    You have no balls to make a solid prediction, we all know theres heaps of permutations but you seem to be covering your arse Walshb, give your prediction and get off the fence, tko or decision?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,609 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Gamebred wrote: »
    You have no balls to make a solid prediction, we all know theres heaps of permutations but you seem to be covering your arse Walshb, give your prediction and get off the fence, tko or decision?

    Are you for real?

    I gave my prediction.

    Floyd wins. No matter what happens in the fight....no fence sitting. Conor does not win. End of.

    It stands to reason that the fight could pan out different ways. That's what happens sometimes in fights.

    Your prediction? Was first Conor fairly handily, then Floyd fairly handily. What now?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    walshb wrote: »
    Are you for real?

    I gave my prediction.

    Floyd wins. No matter what happens in the fight....no fence sitting. Conor does not win. End of.

    It stands to reason that the fight could pan out different ways. That's what happens sometimes in fights.

    Your prediction? Was first Conor fairly handily, then Floyd fairly handily. What now?


    Nope you have covered all angles with the Floyd win, its all if and buts just stick to one its tko or decision,


    Floyd by unam decision is my final prediction now and im sticking to it,


    (please dont reply with ''its up to Floyd how he wins'')


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,609 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Nope you have covered all angles with the Floyd win, its all if and buts just stick to one its tko or decision,


    Floyd by unam decision is my final prediction now and im sticking to it,


    (please dont reply with ''its up to Floyd how he wins'')

    Great...

    Floyd to win is my prediction. You don't like that, tough.

    Seems you would like me to call exactly the way it's won only to jump back in should I get that bit "wrong"....

    Floyd wins.....

    Ok, I'll give my prediction based off them both going for it....

    Floyd TKO-KO 6...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,846 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Something like this perhaps...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh6iaigSXBU&t=71m11s

    Not sure if it would throw Mayweather off, or if McGregor would just walk into a walk into a fist. But, I think he will try something too....

    Yer man with the shades on looks he is at mass or something.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    walshb wrote: »
    Great...

    Floyd to win is my prediction. You don't like that, tough.

    Seems you would like me to call exactly the way it's won only to jump back in should I get that bit "wrong"....

    Floyd wins.....

    Ok, I'll give my prediction based off them both going for it....

    Floyd TKO-KO 6...


    There is nothing on the line go on be on the wild side give one solid prediction and stand by it, no caveats no ifs or buts just one solid prediction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,993 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Both feet have to be on the ground when punching in boxing so dont expect any flying Werdum style charges.

    They don't. It's advisable to give yourself a solid base and build power up through your legs but it's not the rule.

    There's many many examples of boxers landing punches on opponents where one or both feet are off the ground.


    Frazier knocking down Ali in the fight of the century is one of the more famous ones.
    image.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    They don't. It's advisable to give yourself a solid base and build power up through your legs but it's not the rule.

    There's many many examples of boxers landing punches on opponents where one or both feet are off the ground.


    Frazier knocking down Ali in the fight of the century is one of the more famous ones.
    image.jpg


    Well in Amatuer boxing I told otherwise, I know it has happened funny enough Chavez did something crazy like it against Roger Mayweather but I'd be interested to know if a ref will call it as a foul as im 99% sure it is technically.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    8oz Gloves about to be given the go ahead, pmsl at the reasoning

    https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/897861423174369280


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,846 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Robert Byrd is confirmed as the referee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    Gamebred wrote: »
    8oz Gloves about to be given the go ahead, pmsl at the reasoning

    https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/897861423174369280

    Haha they all have to try bring up a reason without saying Floyd, the UFC and Conor bring lots of money to the state of Nevada and they want the gloves.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Something like this perhaps...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh6iaigSXBU&t=71m11s

    Not sure if it would throw Mayweather off, or if McGregor would just walk into a walk into a fist. But, I think he will try something too....

    Yeah that's the type of stuff I see Conor doing.

    It's not that I expect it to be offensively brilliant but it will disrupt the rhythm and timing of Floyd. He can't have ever fought anyone who's constantly jumping into the air with switch steps and fainting switch kicks etc.

    Take the superman punch for example. It's perfectly legal in boxing for both feet to leave the canvas and to punch someone. The reason boxers don't do it is because all the opponent needs to do is pivot to the side and land a clean counter.

    But... that assumes you're trying to land the superman punch. What if you throw it, not with the intention of it landing but to get a certain reaction? Then the next time you fake it and land a shot.

    Visually this fight is going to look like a joke to boxing purists. Conor is going to be doing things in there that look flat-out-ridiculous and the only way they even begin to stop looking ridiculous is when he lands a clean punch on Floyd.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,609 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Gamebred wrote: »
    There is nothing on the line go on be on the wild side give one solid prediction and stand by it, no caveats no ifs or buts just one solid prediction?

    I gave it. TKO-KO 6 for Floyd. Floyd being the winner.


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