Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

darced

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John_D80

The Nal wrote: »

Part of being a great is longevity. He didn't have that. .

This is just not true at all for any sport. Look at the likes of Mark Spitz, Barry John, Jonah Lomu.

All had very short careers and are considered amongst the greatest to ever compete in their sports.

Longevity is rarely a factor in deciding greatness. And most certainly not in the case of Mike Tyson.

Ultimate Seduction

If Conor McGregor retired right now he would go down as an all time great with only 10 fights in the ufc

walshb

darced wrote: »

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Lewis had him out for the full count I believe....eventually, and after utter exhaustion as well.

Would have to check the McBride and Danny Williams fights...

Both kind of had enough/wrecked sit down protests...

The Nal

John_D80 wrote: »

This is just not true at all for any sport. Look at the likes of Mark Spitz, Barry John, Jonah Lomu.

But look at Pele, Federer, Schumacher, Valentino Rossi, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, Anderson Silva, GSP.

McGregor hasn't defended a title yet. Having him in the greatest in UFC history is madness.

walshb wrote: »

Lewis had him out for the full count I believe....eventually, and after utter exhaustion as well.

Would have to check the McBride and Danny Williams fights...

Both kind of had enough/wrecked sit down protests...

Got to one knee for the count of 10 vs Lewis, sat on his arse after a knockdown vs Williams and quit on his stool against McBride.

He was done for those last two fights though. Pure cash grab. He was up more for the Lewis fight but I do remember him thanking Lennox for the payday after in the ring!

Outlaw Pete

Sweet Science wrote: »

Classy instagram post by Conor btw

Thought so too.....................

Just coming back around after a whirlwind couple of days.

Thank you to all the fans for the support of the fight and the event! Without your support we as fighters are nothing so I thank you all!

Thank you to my team of coaches and training partners!

I had an amazing team and It truly was an amazing and enjoyable camp, and honestly I feel with just a little change in certain areas of the prep, we could have built the engine for 12 full rounds under stress, and got the better result on the night.

Getting to 12 rounds alone in practice was always the challenge in this camp. We started slowly getting to the 12 and decreasing the stress in the rounds the closer it got to 12. I think for the time we had, 10 weeks in camp, it had to be done this way. If I began with a loaded 12 rounds under much stress I would have only hit a brick wall and lost progress as a result and potentially not made the fight.

A little more time and we could have made the 12 cleanly, while under more stress, and made it thru the later rounds in the actual fight. I feel every decision we made at each given time was the correct decision, and I am proud of everyone of my team for what we done in the short time that we done it.
30 minutes was the longest I have fought in a ring or cage or anywhere.

Surpassing my previous time of 25 minutes. I am happy for the experience and happy to take all these great lessons with me and implement them into my camp going forward.

Another day another lesson!

Congrats to Floyd on a well fought match. Very experienced and methodical in his work. I wish him well in retirement. He is a heck of a boxer. His experience, his patience and his endurance won him this fight hands down. I always told him he was not a fighter but a boxer. But sharing the ring with him he is certainly a solid fighter. Strong in the clinch. Great understanding of frames and head position. He has some very strong tools he could bring into an MMA game for sure.

Here is a toast of whiskey to everyone involved in this event and everyone who enjoyed it!



Thank you to you all! Onto the next one!

John_D80

The Nal wrote: »

But look at Pele, Federer, Schumacher, Valentino Rossi, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, Anderson Silva, GSP.

Sorry but if you really are trying to make the point that longevity is a prerequisite to being considered great then those mentioned do not support your point at all!!

Everyone one of those would still be considered amongst the greatest of all time in their sports regardless of whether or not they had a long career.

The Nal

John_D80 wrote: »

Sorry but if you really are trying to make the point that longevity is a prerequisite to being considered great then those mentioned do not support your point at all!!

Everyone one of those would still be considered amongst the greatest of all time in their sports regardless of whether or not they had a long career.

I suppose we're into the "define greatness" conversation regarding sport then. I'd always have to have longevity in there when looking at the top top guys.

Outlaw Pete

If the Diaz Trilogy fight doesn't happen then I see it being because of Nate demanding more more money than the UFC are willing to pay him. Even with the last one they struggled to agree on money for a long while and so I'd imagine this time will be even tougher negotiating.

“At least $20 million, $30 million,” Perez said. “Come on. UFC’s making a whole lot of money, a whole lot of money and they’re pocketing it. They’re giving more to McGregor, so it’s not fair because it takes two in that ring to draw a crowd – I mean, a good two fighters. It’s just like Mayweather when he fought Berto. It was not even sold out at all. It was embarrassing. It’s because that guy couldn’t draw a crowd. See, that’s what I’m saying, it’s the fighters that draw the crowd, and Nathan and McGregor, third one would be outstanding. Everyone knows that. So he needs to get paid at least $30 million easy.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gvFqHz5dMg

magma69

Big thank you to all the lads that put money on McGregor.
Ole ole ole!

DuffleBag

magma69 wrote: »

Big thank you to all the lads that put money on McGregor.
Ole ole ole!

How much did you win ol' boy?

John_D80

The Nal wrote: »

I suppose we're into the "define greatness" conversation regarding sport then. I'd always have to have longevity in there when looking at the top top guys.

Fair point.

IMO, so called greatness is judged on a case by case basis. There can't be any set criteria.

I personally though would find it hard to see the reasoning behind not considering Mike Tyson a great in his sport though.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Bunny Colvin

Can't say I'm bothered about Diaz 3. I'd rather see him fight Ferguson or someone else.

Diaz asking for 20million? If I was Conor, I'd just ignore him. He's deluded to think he's entitled to that much.

spix

Mcgregor is smart to want to fight Diaz a 3rd time. Diaz will not improve since their 2nd fight, Mcgregor already knows what he brings and is obviously not worried about it. The only thing he has to worry about whilst fighting Diaz is not to gas out otherwise he can outbox him all day. With a different opponent the unknown is there.

I'd rather see mcgregor take on a new challenge so he's more likely to push himself to improve his skills rather than thinking he already has the tools to handle Diaz. I also think its time sbg bring in someone new to help coach conor, his obvious weaknesses which they must be aware about didn't show alot of improvement against mayweather. Sometimes you just need a new set of eyes and opinions to keep improving. I think the current team has stagnated. Conor needs serious improvement in his close range striking, defense (using hands to protect himself) handling of pressure and there wasn't enough improvements from the Diaz fights till Mayweather to think it will be much better next time around unless there's a drastic change in his training and fighting methods. The blueprint on how to beat Conor is there and its a pretty easy blueprint to be honest especially when he'll be fighting bigger opponents who are more likely to have him fighting longer than the 145lbers.

Gamebred

Sure its 1-1 but im not into the trilogy either now the 2nd fight will be impossible to top too epic fight, hope he fights Gaetjhe or Woodley next.

Subcomandante Marcos

Gamebred wrote: »

Sure its 1-1 but im not into the trilogy either now the 2nd fight will be impossible to top too epic fight, hope he fights Gaetjhe or Woodley next.

Woodley is out until after the New year, Gaethje has a war in early December.


He's fighting on the December 30th card, it's going to be Diaz.

You can book the flights and make the bet, it's a done deal.

Sofiztikated

If Nate had been active, I'd say he'd have had a better chance of commanding what he's looking for.

Not fighting since McGregor, and being arseholey with the UFC, won't have the legs to command anywhere near that much.

Gamebred

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Woodley is out until after the New year, Gaethje has a war in early December.


He's fighting on the December 30th card, it's going to be Diaz.

You can book the flights and make the bet, it's a done deal.

According to Sonnen I'll hold off thanks :pac:

Farce if they fight for the belt while Tony or Kevin Lee are walking round with an interim.

Subcomandante Marcos

Gamebred wrote: »

According to Sonnen I'll hold off thanks :pac:

Farce if they fight for the belt while Tony or Kevin Lee are walking round with an interim.

I've been saying since the night of the fight.

Lukker-

Khabib is saying he's ready to fight Dec 30 in Vegas.

Bunny Colvin

Lukker- wrote: »

Khabib is saying he's ready to fight Dec 30 in Vegas.

That fight won't be made. Simple fact is he can't be trusted to make weight.

Ultimate Seduction

Subcomandante Marcos wrote:

You can book the flights and make the bet, it's a done deal.

That's a pretty big statement to make.

Eyes Down Field

Who would people like to see McGregor fight next?

Nurmagomedov
Ferguson/Lee
Diaz
Woodley
Malinaggi
Holloway
Aldo?

Ultimate Seduction

Subcomandante Marcos wrote:

You can book the flights and make the bet, it's a done deal.

That's a pretty big statement to make.

Bunny Colvin

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Who would people like to see McGregor fight next?

1. Nurmagomedov
2. Ferguson/Lee
3. Diaz
4. Woodley
5. Malinaggi
6. Holloway
7. Aldo

Siver rematch.

Ultimate Seduction

Eyes Down Field wrote:

1. Nurmagomedov 2. Ferguson/Lee 3. Diaz 4. Woodley 5. Malinaggi 6. Holloway 7. Aldo

2 or 6 is good for me.

JJayoo

Diaz is the easy fight to keep the hype train going

Add more kicks + more cardio = piece of pisss.

Conor wouldn't have a hope in hell of beating Woodly. Woodly has huge power, insane cardio, amazing wrestling and most importantly, when going against McG, he sticks to a game plan.

Lukker-

JJayoo wrote: »

Diaz is the easy fight to keep the hype train going

Add more kicks + more cardio = piece of pisss.

Conor wouldn't have a hope in hell of beating Woodly. Woodly has huge power, insane cardio, amazing wrestling and most importantly, when going against McG, he sticks to a game plan.

He'd prob be the only fighter that could make a fight vs Conor boring.

He likes to fight with his back against the fence though which is the only thing I can see going against him, he'd get picked apart if he did that.

Lukker-

I'd like to see him fight Khabib. Save Diaz

.ak

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Who would people like to see McGregor fight next?

Nurmagomedov
Ferguson/Lee
Diaz
Woodley
Malinaggi
Holloway
Aldo?

Floyd Mayweather.