Would you support your son/daughter child becoming a prostitute?

123shooter

Samaris wrote: »

Your post completely misunderstood mine as well.

Like I say it was accidental actually caused in the delay of me clicking to reply to samual and your post appearing at same time. Appologize.:o

Samaris

123shooter wrote: »

Like I say it was accidental actually caused in the delay of me clicking to reply to samual and your post appearing at same time. Appologize.:o

Aah, gotcha. np!

123shooter

Samaris wrote: »

Aah, gotcha. np!

I deleted and altered to suit.

Permabear

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Samuel T. Cogley

Permabear wrote: »

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In fairness though, higher wage even at 40 and a massive boost in the early years. God that sounds awful. Anyway - I think that most girls are either trafficked or do it 'on the side' in the escorting world. The street side of things which I do believe should be stamped out is mainly people with serious addiction issues, and won't be the ones earning any real money at 20 or otherwise.

Samaris

Yep, which is pretty much where "dead-end career" comes in. It does have some analogy with professional sports - earning power peaks early, rapid decline with age - but there are enough fringe benefits to professional sport that it can alleviate the effects of becoming less able to earn. At the moment, prostitution has none of those fringe benefits, quite a few other fringe negatives to overcome and legalisation without a push to pretty much venerate the system (as in professional sports) won't solve it.

123shooter

Actually I doubt that graph and disagree with it because of recent times there is a massive interest in older women and demand for such in porn and escorting.

Now before you start shouting at me the demand is there to see on the websites out there and you can google websites which are dedicated to such.

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123shooter

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This is so wrong and a misconception because in Ireland and the UK these activities are in hotels or the escorts own home. The kind of activities you refer to here are usually the criminal side of things.

Also, the prostitute receives no additional benefits such as health care cover, pension contributions, paid vacation time, etc., that may be available to workers in other occupations.

Again another twist on the subject. Anybody who is self employed in the UK and Ireland does not receive such benefits.

On the upside, she pays no taxes -- but this always comes with the risk of being caught and prosecuted for tax evasion.

It's a mixed bag, no matter how you look at it.

True but there are a lot of 'sex workers' who do pay tax and list their activities as their source of income.

Is your info and graph based on people working in brothels in the USA or on the UK/Ireland sex workers who work at home or hotels?

Samuel T. Cogley

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I don't disagree but neither do I believe that a careful, independent young woman (or man for that matter) having sex with punters for money,on the side, to fund a particular lifestyle is the worst thing in the world either.

If I can get anymore clauses into a sentence I'll let ye all know :pac:

Samaris

123shooter wrote: »

Actually I doubt that graph and disagree with it because of recent times there is a massive interest in older women and demand for such in porn and escorting.

Now before you start shouting at me the demand is there to see on the websites out there and you can google websites which are dedicated to such.

Well...you can disagree with it all you like, but you're holding up as proof that people can be interested in older women. It doesn't really prove anything; it's a thing, sure, but your implication of its relative importance is very close to anecdotal evidence. Sure, there will always be exceptions (there have been exceptions throughout history that courtesans could be highly respected, wealthy and powerful,) but that doesn't make it the norm.

You could actually back this up with some peer-reviewed evidence rather than telling people you're correct and they should go look up porn to work out how correct you are. Do your own research and present your findings, don't make an assumption and demand someone else does the work on it!

123shooter

Samaris wrote: »

You could actually back this up with some peer-reviewed evidence rather than telling people you're correct and they should go look up porn to work out how correct you are. Do your own research and present your findings, don't make an assumption and demand someone else does the work on it!

I agree with what you say but the internet is full of websites with mature women offering all sorts from pics to sex.

Obviously I cannot put links to such websites on here but I suggest you look yourself.

That graph shows a severe decline in ladies earnings over 25.

In one such website for Ireland for girls 18 - 25 there were only 17 profiles listed. For the age group of 26 to 70 there were 55 profiles.

For the UK 18 - 25 there were 11,704 profiles. For the age group of 26 - 70 there were 18,782 profiles.

Now I know there is a longer range of an age group in the 26 - 70 range but the results shows that there is actually more older women of an age above 25 when the graph shows a steep decline offering such services what ever they may be.

This was just one such website catering for all ages of adults offering services.

This is the UK & Ireland not the USA. Everyone to there own.:cool:

123shooter

Samaris wrote: »

You could actually back this up with some peer-reviewed evidence rather than telling people you're correct and they should go look up porn to work out how correct you are. Do your own research and present your findings, don't make an assumption and demand someone else does the work on it!

Any way that leaves me out now. I hate this kind of stuff and can only imagine what would happen if I posted porn site links as evidence, and if I can do it then so can everybody else, so you carry on. You have received one such example of where the results are obtained.

Samaris

123shooter wrote: »

Any way that leaves me out now. I hate this kind of stuff and can only imagine what would happen if I posted porn site links as evidence, and if I can do it then so can everybody else, so you carry on. You have received one such example of where the results are obtained.

Well, you could do what the other poster did and use research* regarding the porn industry if you don't want to do the primary research. A porn site is a start, but you could do with a more encompassing representation of the entire industry than one site, which is why collated evidence is much easier to debate than either assumptions or isolated occurrences. If it's too difficult to find research on it, maybe there's a reason for that, but it is a bit ridiculous to dismiss someone else's point with an opposing view while being too squeamish to see if you're actually correct on it.

Not asking you to post porn links. Asking you to post some back-up to your point, preferably researched and considered rather than a couple of isolated incidences somehow proving a far more sweeping point of view. Maybe try journals - newspapers are okay, but they tend to take the most exciting-sounding view, regardless of whether it distorts the actual conclusions.

*Mind you, and just to be clear, I don't know the provenance or accuracy of the other poster's graph either, which is a valid question. But your refutation of it was based on little more than unsubstantiated gut feeling.

123shooter

Samaris wrote: »

Well, you could do what the other poster did and use research* regarding the porn industry if you don't want to do the primary research. A porn site is a start, but you could do with a more encompassing representation of the entire industry than one site, which is why collated evidence is much easier to debate than either assumptions or isolated occurrences. If it's too difficult to find research on it, maybe there's a reason for that, but it is a bit ridiculous to dismiss someone else's point with an opposing view while being too squeamish to see if you're actually correct on it.

Not asking you to post porn links. Asking you to post some back-up to your point, preferably researched and considered rather than a couple of isolated incidences somehow proving a far more sweeping point of view. Maybe try journals - newspapers are okay, but they tend to take the most exciting-sounding view, regardless of whether it distorts the actual conclusions.

*Mind you, and just to be clear, I don't know the provenance or accuracy of the other poster's graph either, which is a valid question. But your refutation of it was based on little more than unsubstantiated gut feeling.

I just posted the search results from the one porn site sent to you via pm and as I said thats just one website. Results = research as you asked.

It only lists 72 working ladies for Ireland but on another 'escort of same country' website they list hundreds more in Ireland alone of all age groups.

I have better things to do on a saturday than scoot around porn sites for a boards mod.

Samaris

123shooter wrote: »

I just posted the search results from the one porn site sent to you via pm and as I said thats just one website. Results = research as you asked.

It only lists 72 working ladies for Ireland but on another 'escort of same country' website they list hundreds more in Ireland alone of all age groups.

I have better things to do on a saturday than scoot around porn sites for a boards mod.

Oh jesus, is that what that weird-ass PM titled "sex" and with the single word "adultwork" was about?

Bloody hells, man, context is nice! "Cabbages" as a response made as much sense as the original PM.

Samuel T. Cogley

123shooter wrote: »

I have better things to do on a saturday than scoot around porn sites for a boards mod.

Fook, your Saturday's must be waaaaaay better than mine then. :pac:

Discodog

I know someone, in the UK, who is in her 50's. She averages around £1500 to £2000 cash per week so between 150 & 200 per hour. She has a family, a nice house in the UK, a house in Spain & a big retirement fund.

123shooter

Discodog wrote: »

I know someone, in the UK, who is in her 50's. She averages around £1500 to £2000 cash per week so between 150 & 200 per hour. She has a family, a nice house in the UK, a house in Spain & a big retirement fund.

Yeah but she don't count unless she is drugged out of her head and a raving head case.

But on this point, as I may being as I get accused of having no facts I could introduce you to some older type ladies who have websites of services and products who are also successful, older, and have done quite well out of being a sex worker of various descriptions from vids and camwork to full escort services.

Carla Brown, Curvey Claire, Mature Aunty Trisha, JuicyJo, Valgasmic.

Just some and you will find all these ladies have their own websites and use 3rd party ones as well. Put their names in google and see what comes up without visiting their websites.

A lot of normal housewife types join the merry throng with either pics and vids to full sex at their own home or hotels and not a pimp in sight, with or without their hubbies knowledge.

If you want me to list the websites of sex workers of a mature age well over 25 who have become very successful and 3rd party ones no problem

greencap

123shooter wrote: »

Firstly I gave an example of 2 bodily functions. I didnt mean to give the impression that I was comparing the two. But as you say the life changing possibilities of sex can be blocked, so there is no problem to the point you refer.

Again, its not about whether or not you can counteract the effects.
The thing remains what it is. Outside of your intervention.

A poison remains deadly/in the poison category - separate from the cake category or the biscuit category, whether or not you can counteract the poison.

You don't say 'oh we've found the way to counteract this poison so I guess it must go in the cake category now, since cakes are benign and the poison is also benign now that we can counter it'.

Sex with its life changing possibilities, doesn't become 'harmless sex' the day you discover the condom.
If for some bizarre reason we run out of condoms ...guess what ... oh yeah those babies and diseases that were waiting on the sidelines reappear.

Woah !....... If you want religion in your life go for it. If you want to attach other peoples sex life to your religious beliefs and impose your or a religions moralistic rules on them then you had better run for the hills.

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WHAT. :eek::eek:

:eek::eek:UTTER. :eek::eek:

:eek::eek:SH1T.

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Describing something doesn't mean endorsing something.

The point was that multiple diverse societies, ignorant of each other, throughout the ages have regulated sex through their morality/philosophy, their higher social rules and teachings resembling one another.
This has never, to my knowledge, been the case for other bodily functions.

Crapping and pissing generally wouldn't get more than a line or two saying 'do thine shyte over yonder hill'. Wash thine balls on the 4th night, etc.

Shagging meanwhile gets all sorts of recurring talk of bride prices and dowries, exclusivity and rituals, rites and punishments. With recurring focus. And serious implications.

Now since you obviously fail hard at interpreting inference let me make it clear again.
This doesn't mean I'm knocking on your door to convert you to my morals. What this does mean is that since the dawn of human society sex has been seen as way more than ''just another bodily function''. (post 83)

Probably because it carries often very serious implications.

Its a bodily function. Its in that set, undeniably.
But unlike the other bodily functions, outside of malfunction, its in a category of possible life changing events.

123shooter

greencap wrote: »

Again, its not about whether or not you can counteract the effects.
The thing remains what it is. Outside of your intervention.

A poison remains in the poison category - separate from the cake category or the biscuit category, whether or not you can counteract the poison.

You don't say 'oh we've found the way to counteract this poison so I guess it must go in the cake category now, since cakes are benign and the poison is also benign'.

What do you want us all to do ban anything remotely dangerous and stop in bed for rest of our lives?

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WHAT. :eek::eek:

:eek::eek:UTTER. :eek::eek:

:eek::eek:SH1T.

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Describing something doesn't mean endorsing something.

The point was that multiple diverse societies, ignorant of each other, throughout the ages have regulated sex through their morality/philosophy, their higher social rules and teachings resembling one another.
This has never, to my knowledge, been the case for other bodily functions.

Crapping and pissing generally wouldn't get more than a line or two saying 'do thine shyte over yonder hill'. Wash thine balls on the 4th night, etc.

Shagging meanwhile gets all sorts of recurring talk of bride prices and dowries, exclusivity and rituals, rites and punishments. With recurring focus. And serious implications.

Now since you obviously fail hard at interpreting inference let me make it clear again.
This doesn't mean I'm knocking on your door to convert you to my morals. What this does mean is that since the dawn of human society sex has been seen as way more than ''just another bodily function''. (post 83)

Probably because it carries often very serious implications.

Its a bodily function. Its in that set, undeniably.
But unlike the other bodily functions, outside of malfunction, its in a category of possible life changing events.

Yeah yeah yeah

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greencap

123shooter wrote: »

What do you want us all to do ban anything remotely dangerous and stop in bed for rest of our lives?








Yeah yeah yeah

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just looked at the calender on pc. It says 15/07/2017.

The smilies and one liners don't wash off the stench of fail.

123shooter

greencap wrote: »

The smilies and one liners don't wash off the stench of fail.

Look I can't get all melodramatic about a simple subject that some bring their morals, beliefs and taboos too.

The question was would you support your kids if they wanted to become sex workers?

The point I make is how people get all upset and have views on what other people do with other people when it comes to sex when they don't care about other things we do with each other.

Time has moved on from what our beliefs about sex workers once were and the internet has changed everything at at an ever increasing speed which leaves some of us who aren't up to speed on the topic stuck in the past and possibly confused and some who have strong beliefs against such activity.

Mostly gone are the days of seediness and pimps and now it is so much safer and available to a lot more people who want to try such work. Its done in hotels and their own homes. There are of course the bargain basement crowd on street corners and still the criminal element of pimps with trafficked girls. But the websites show that most of it isnt like that anymore.

Examples and proof are in the earlier posts. There are that many many people at it now.

You carry on.

greencap

123shooter wrote: »

Look I can't get all melodramatic about a simple subject that some bring their morals, beliefs and taboos too.

The question was would you support your kids if they wanted to become sex workers?

The point I make is how people get all upset and have views on what other people do with other people when it comes to sex when they don't care about other things we do with each other.

Time has moved on from what our beliefs about sex workers once were and the internet has changed everything at at an ever increasing speed which leaves some of us who aren't up to speed on the topic stuck in the past and possibly confused and some who have strong beliefs against such activity.

Mostly gone are the days of seediness and pimps and now it is so much safer and available to a lot more people who want to try such work. Its done in hotels and their own homes. There are of course the bargain basement crowd on street corners and still the criminal element of pimps with trafficked girls. But the websites show that most of it isnt like that anymore.

Examples and proof are in the earlier posts. There are that many many people at it now.

You carry on.

None of that refers to anything I said.

dirtyden

Anyone who said yes is not taking the question seriously.

123shooter

greencap wrote: »

None of that refers to anything I said.

You said about the dangers for one. Well as was said a lot of jobs have hazardous parts attached to them.

greencap

123shooter wrote: »

You said about the dangers for one. Well as was said a lot of jobs have hazardous parts attached to them.

Sex can have serious implications - job or not.
Its not just another bodily function. (post 83)

Other bodily functions normally aren't any more serious than a stench.


monopoly is a game. risk is a game. russian roulette is also a type of game.

123shooter

greencap wrote: »

Sex can have serious implications - job or not.
Its not just another bodily function. (post 83)

It only has implications if you attach such to it.

The problems associated with the act are overcome by various means.

I honestly dont know anything else you refer too.

greencap

123shooter wrote: »

It only has implications if you attach such to it.

The problems associated with the act are overcome by various means.

I honestly dont know anything else you refer too.

Eh, noooo.....you don't have to attach implications to sex, they're part of something called objective reality.

You can't just say 'I detach myself from you herpes' afterwards.

Yes the problems can be overcome ... but they're still there.

Whats the worst that normally happens with the other bodily function, like in real day to day terms, some heartburn? ring-sting? missing the pot?

Worst case scenarios for sex are oh... 18 years unwanted commitment? Death?

And thats why we place far more importance on sex than pooping throughout history ... because its more than just a body function.

Samaris

123shooter wrote: »

Look I can't get all melodramatic about a simple subject that some bring their morals, beliefs and taboos too.

The question was would you support your kids if they wanted to become sex workers?

The point I make is how people get all upset and have views on what other people do with other people when it comes to sex when they don't care about other things we do with each other.

Time has moved on from what our beliefs about sex workers once were and the internet has changed everything at at an ever increasing speed which leaves some of us who aren't up to speed on the topic stuck in the past and possibly confused and some who have strong beliefs against such activity.

Mostly gone are the days of seediness and pimps and now it is so much safer and available to a lot more people who want to try such work. Its done in hotels and their own homes. There are of course the bargain basement crowd on street corners and still the criminal element of pimps with trafficked girls. But the websites show that most of it isnt like that anymore.

Examples and proof are in the earlier posts. There are that many many people at it now.

You carry on.

Well, then let's go back to the start - you're grand with your daughter or son getting into prostitution presumably, no? Would you present it as a potential career choice or just encourage them to follow their dreams if that's what they decide to do?

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dirtyden

dirtyden wrote: »

Anyone who said yes is not taking the question seriously.

Or perhaps empty one liners without replying to a single person on the thread who explained why they said "yes" means you are not taking any of it seriously.

Samaris wrote: »

Would you present it as a potential career choice or just encourage them to follow their dreams if that's what they decide to do?

I think as a parent I never have - and do not really intend to - present career choices to my children. I do not sit there each day saying "You could be a vet you know - or have you ever considered teaching" and so on.

I see my role as a parent as being to lead my children to the education and skills and emotional awareness to observe the world and find who they themselves are - and find a career that bests suits them - and understand the implications and issues related with whatever career that may be. After all many many many careers have risks and implications and issues.

So I would support my child in whatever career they choose for themselves really - assuming it is legal. I think the issue for many people on this thread is they consider a parent _supporting_ their choice as somehow being the same thing as wanting them to make that choice - leading them to that choice - or promoting that choice. That is not the same thing.

Permabear

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Thankfully I do not suspect anyone talks like that - so such a dialogue would be a bit contrived.

But even in a lot more "legitimate" careers you would not really want to be discussing the specifics of individual clients with your parents or family.

Given some of the things gynaecologists see in their line of work - do you think they would equally lightly be making breakfast conversation about it? I doubt many vets tell daddy "Oh yay I will be elbow deep in horse and cow vaginas today! Arent you proud of me?"

Do you think doctors sit with their mum or dad talking about the client who had piles dangling out of the anus like a pendulum grandfather clock?

Do people working in repossessing asserts sit making their parents proud talking about the young college student of defenceless old granny who they went into the house of to take their car or furniture for lack of payments?

Or a parking attendant sitting back reaming off the number of tickets or clamps they got to give out that day?

Would someone working in massage detail the age or obesity levels of the clients they have lined up that day to make daddy proud? Do soldiers generally talk proudly about watching a limb flying off through the sky after they fired their weapon to make grand-ma-ma shed a tear of pride - before using the civilian collateral damage levels to really make them bubble over?

Or do cost accountants make mammy proud saying "Yes I am off to work today - I found a way to save my current client a ton of money - it will be great stuff - we get to fire 20 people today and leave them jobless. Score!".

I can think of several politicians with legacies behind them that would leave them with less to make mammy and daddy proud than some sex workers do. At least the sex workers made someone feel good - and maybe even happy - even if only briefly.

I doubt sex workers are the ones in our world who should be worried about their dinner table talk and making their parents proud. Whatever my own opinion would be about sex work - and it would not be the career choice I hope for for my own child - I can think of _plenty_ of careers I would prefer even less if I had to sit down and rank them on a piece of paper.

But all that said - my pride in my children will not come from what career they end up in. It would come instead from seeing them grow up into competent and confident adults who find their own path in life - and are happy walking it - be that as a vet a politician a teacher a mechanic or a sex worker. If they do what is right for them and do it for the right reasons - then I can not think of a source of pride I would ever expect - or even want - other than that.

Sin City

Bring your kid to work day might be awkward

Geuze

freshpopcorn wrote: »

So, if Ireland was to make the sale of sex legal. Would you like your son or daughter to do it for a living?
We often read threads with people saying Ireland should legalise it.

Would you support your son/daughter child becoming a prostitute?

Please note that prostitution was perfectly legal in Ireland up until very recently.

AudreyHepburn

Absolutely not. I would hate to see any child of mine degrade themselves like that and I would hate to think they believed they only thing they were good for was to be a plaything for others.

It is possible to do that kind of work without thinking of it as degrading - and without thinking the thoughts you are projecting on to it though. Read the AMA from the sex worker on this very forum. Or the interviews with the pro-sex work speaker on a recent RTE documentary on the subject of the changing sex work laws in Ireland.

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Not sure she presented it that way at all - rather she did not want to face their judgements and reactions

Hiding from the judgements or reactions of others - or keeping information from them so they do not worry or obsess over it - is not the same thing as being ashamed. Though people do rush to conflate the two often.

There are things in my own life I am not at all ashamed about - but I still do not want family or close friends to know because i simply have a "Aint no one got time for that sheeeeet" position on what I suspect their reaction(s) to it will be.

I read the AMA end to end and I did not think she presented any of her secrecy around her career as being shame based or shame motivated. I think that is your narrative not hers.

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Even without sex work - many people do not want to discuss their historic sex life with present partners. There are people who have had large numbers of partners historically and would not want their current partner to know.

Again _some_ might be doing that out of shame. Sure. But others do it for any number of other reasons. Many would - for example - not want to intimidate or make feel inadequete a partner with a significantly tamer sexual history.

And it is possible to fear the judgements of others without feeling shame oneself. A person might not feel shame for having had 50 boyfriends before - but they may still not want to be judged by people by informing them of this.

So no - whether you agree with it or not I think the leap from "Does not want people to know" to "therefore she must feel shame on some level" is just your assumption. Nothing more.

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Read some of the attitudes on this thread and others like it. We live in a society where men who get laid a lot are studs but women are "sluts" and that wonderfully objectifying and disgusting phrase and the mentality it represents of "damaged goods". And the type of people who make comments about vaginas being like throwing a sausage up oconnell street or waving their arm around in a humid room.

I think I would deny certain types of sexual history in the same situation myself in a society populated by guys with that kind of rhetoric and mentality.

I have read comments on this forum for example that the moment it turned out a partner had a history of sex work it would instantly be "game over". Nothing else about the person matters it seems - not the person they are now - not anything they have done with or for their partner - not the relationship they had built up over whatever quantity of time until that moment. Nope - simply the moment they found out their partner was once a sex worker - "game over". No ifs buts or maybes.

Then there is the whole area of vicarious comparison. A person who knows their partner has had a significant number of sexual partners before them can often obsess about how they compare - do they stand up to all the previous experiences - did they enjoy it more with them - and so forth.

The list goes on - but I think it is clear enough that there are any number of reasons aside from personal shame to want to keep sex work and your own personal and private life entirely separate. And I think it is nothing but mere assumption that wanting to keep it secret automatically must mean shame is a factor. The attitude _other_ people have to sex work is already reason enough. What more would she need?

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Sven Hassel

I don't believe any of the posters here who say they'd have no problem with their child being prostitute. Imagine being at a party 'so what does your daughter do?' 'She's a nurse' 'that's nice, mine's a teacher. How about you man?' 'Oh ah, she, she be hoein on the street'.

freshpopcorn

OP here again. I wouldn't be gone on the idea.
So I'd say No.
If it was legalised would you have to a fetac course or something in Personal Services to Others?

wakka12

No, its horrible profession you will always come into contact with crazy and dangerous individuals and female prostitutes are at a very high risk of being physically harmed

LeBash

wakka12 wrote: »

No, its horrible profession you will always come into contact with crazy and dangerous individuals and female prostitutes are at a very high risk of being physically harmed

And if it was legal the lady could go and report it. I am also going to guess that a very large number of people who visit prostitutes are nice, down to earth people who are maybe just looking for sex or perhaps even just human contact. I would say 90% of the horror stories in prostitution could be cleared up by legalizing it and regulating it with very regular health checks and education before starting it. Btw men are at risk in the industry also, just in case you forgot.

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I guess I tend to listen to people and what they actually say - rather than read between the lines and force my own narratives and impressions in there. I have read every post she made on that thread and she wrote nothing that I could see that suggests she felt _any_ shame at all for her career choices.

But we are now derailed into the discussion of a single example of a wider point. The wider point being that it is perfectly possible to be a sex worker without suffering from any of the narratives AudreyHepburn has projected onto it.

AudreyHepburn might see sex work as degrading and judge sex workers thusly. But many sex workers do not. And many people in sex work do _not_ see themselves as only being good enough to be a play thing for others.

Sven Hassel wrote: »

I don't believe any of the posters here who say they'd have no problem with their child being prostitute. Imagine being at a party 'so what does your daughter do?'

A lot of users are saying they would _support_ their child in their decision. That is not the same as saying they would have absolutely no problem with it.

But what I would not do is pretend that this is the only career choice people at parties would want to out their children as having. There are many careers in this world a parent is probably going to be reluctant to admit to. I know one person personally who is a bit embarrassed that their child works in Tax Collection

As a parent though my interest is in supporting my children and making them happy. I can not get into the head space of the parents who are making it all about themselves. Forget their child's well being or happiness or own autonomy. No none of that is as important as worrying "Oh dear - what am I going to say at parties?"

I would say such parents require little more than a healthy large dose of getting the hell over themselves tbh. Their child's freedom - well being - career choices and autonomy are not play things for their conversational benefits and bragging rights over the Joneses.

wakka12 wrote: »

No, its horrible profession you will always come into contact with crazy and dangerous individuals and female prostitutes are at a very high risk of being physically harmed

All of which can be said about cops nurses and soldiers too. Hell try just working as a cashier in the 24 hour spar on Dame Street for a few night shifts sometime.

But I certainly would like to see a legal and well regulated sex industry in our country - as I think that is the best way to address the problems you describe.