Tour de France 2017 Stage 15: Laissac-l'Église - LePuy. 12pm TV

BowSideChamp

Jesus that stage was amazing.

neris

That was brilliant today great racing

MPFGLB

Dan Martin back in 5th ...good day fro him

Plus he is 1' 12" behind leader...he lost 1' 15" with the crash

Itziger

There's plenty of life left in this tour. Uran definitely the dark horse. Dan fantastic, hardly needs repeating. Landa....................

I'm not 100% convinced by this show of 'solidarity'.

Eamonnator

Itziger wrote: »

There's plenty of life left in this tour. Uran definitely the dark horse. Dan fantastic, hardly needs repeating. Landa....................

I'm not 100% convinced by this show of 'solidarity'.

In fairness, what more could Landa have done today, to show loyalty?

RobFowl

Eamonnator wrote: »

In fairness, what more could Landa have done today, to show loyalty?

Given his wheel instead of Kwiakowski having to do it

Tigerandahalf

Itziger wrote: »

There's plenty of life left in this tour. Uran definitely the dark horse. Dan fantastic, hardly needs repeating. Landa....................

I'm not 100% convinced by this show of 'solidarity'.

Froome showed today how strong he is. Difficult to see anyone coming near him. He has yet to attack himself. If he does he could easily put another minute on the others.

Bardet and the others had a huge chance today and just didn't have the legs to do it.

Froome has a rest day now tomorrow.

Inquitus

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Froome has a rest day now tomorrow.

Everyone else gets a rest day too!

RobFowl

Great racing and great tour in many ways so far. Alps will be very interesting and this year has at the very least spelt the end of the Froome dominance.
He may still win but this will be his last tour I suspect (as a top GC man)

Inquitus

RobFowl wrote: »

Great racing and great tour in many ways so far. Alps will be very interesting and this year has at the very least spelt the end of the Froome dominance.
He may still win but this will be his last tour I suspect (as a top GC man)

I am not sure, I think he wants to do the Tour / Vuelta double and took a risk coming into the Tour undercooked relatively, time will tell.

MPFGLB

I cant see Froome doing the Tour/Vuelta double


He is very good alright but he is not a step above alot of riders now like he was a few years ago ...and more importantly the others now know that

Some where Dumoulin & Nibali are sharping their form in anticipation of Spain

godtabh

MPFGLB wrote: »

I cant see Froome doing the Tour/Vuelta double


He is very good alright but he is not a step above alot of riders now like he was a few years ago ...and more importantly the others now know that

Some where Dumoulin & Nibali are sharping their form in anticipation of Spain

Came close last year. Peaking differently this year

pelevin

I'd be surprised if Dumoulin was particularly focusing on the Vuelta gc. I'd guess his main objective for the rest of the season would be the Worlds tt. Obviously enough though I could be wrong. I'd hope Nibali would be aiming for the Vuelta though.

Arrow in the Knee

How would Froome fair out if he swapped teams with Bardet, Aru, Quintana or Dan Martin and vice versa this year or previous years TDF?

The Skybots dominate stages from start to finish!

rtmie

Hard to think of times when Dan has had a team mate around him at any (critical) part of important stages.
His performance is fantastic. But surely QSF must have had an idea of his form and should have structured at least some part of the team around him.

MPFGLB

rtmie wrote: »

Hard to think of times when Dan has had a team mate around him at any (critical) part of important stages.
His performance is fantastic. But surely QSF must have had an idea of his form and should have structured at least some part of the team around him.

Form hard to predict ...esp when high GC not done before

Look at Cannondale ...they had Uran & Talansky as co leaders...one is near the front ..the other near the back...one must imagine they were similar in training


Quickstep is not really a GC team...they came to the Tour to support Kittel...
IF Dan Martin wants a team he will have to leave Quickstep

And I think this Tour's parcours really suit him

rtmie

Top 10 last year! Podium in Dauphines.

irishrover99

After watching the highlights it looked like both lotto and sunweb riders were really helping Dan on the run in and it looked like Simon Getcha? told him to take his wheel when they came to the line.

rtmie

irishrover99 wrote: »

After watching the highlights it looked like both lotto and sunweb riders were really helping Dan on the run in and it looked like Simon Getcha? told him to take his wheel when they came to the line.

I'd say there's huge respect for Dan and how he is racing this race. In any cast, at that stage it was better for those guys to invest in staying away from the bunch after being in the break all day, regardless of their final position.

Tigerandahalf

Arrow in the Knee wrote: »

How would Froome fair out if he swapped teams with Bardet, Aru, Quintana or Dan Martin and vice versa this year or previous years TDF?

The Skybots dominate stages from start to finish!

Today's stage was a good example of having a good team around you. When Froome had the mechanical he had the choice of 2 team mates' bikes to get a spare wheel from plus he then had Landa to pull him back.

That's where Dan is very vulnerable. Other than that though if you can't climb the hills you won't be winning irrespective of team mates.

Froome is in a different league to the rest of them. He is not very admired around here yet he seems to have it all - can climb, sprint, descend and time trial better than most guys plus he has got that hard hungry edge about him. He might not come across as very outgoing in interviews but he certainly has the right blend to win these tours.

retalivity

I thought the booing earlierof froome was a bit much...i thought that initial dispersions with sky/froome/wiggins from a few years ago had passed, and while maybe he is not as liked as a champion as say contador, nibali or evans, he is certainly admired by the french. Apparently not.

retalivity

retalivity wrote: »

I thought the booing earlierof froome was a bit much...i thought that initial dispersions with sky/froome/wiggins from a few years ago had passed, and while maybe he is not as liked as a champion as say contador, nibali or evans, he is certainly admired by the french. Apparently not.

It's a bit like Michael Schumacher and Ferrari in those years they dominated , makes for boring predictable races but not their fault it's up to everyone else to fight them for it. The booing showed a real lack of class from those involved. Any real fan whether they like sky or not would know they have a team of serious quality.

I don't like sky for these reasons btu I would hate to see them lose because of a mechanical like today, then they have excuses . Beat them on the road and show you can better them.

Pity Froome didn't have time for one of these moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RYBln_Jnas

Kaisr Sose

The French don't like Froome or SKY in general. They have the same feelings towards the British in general so that may be part of it. No idea what's it's about but it's unlikely they will change their opinion.

Kaisr Sose

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

The French don't like Froome or SKY in general. They have the same feelings towards the British in general so that may be part of it. No idea what's it's about but it's unlikely they will change their opinion.

At least they ain't throwing bottles of wee at him this year

Raoul Duke

I'd imagine that there is extra dislike this year with Bardet challenging.

Lumen

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

The French don't like Froome or SKY in general. They have the same feelings towards the British in general so that may be part of it. No idea what's it's about but it's unlikely they will change their opinion.

Eh, wut?

I've been to France many times and never been booed. The booing is because they think Sky dope.

MPFGLB

Lumen wrote: »

Eh, wut?

I've been to France many times and never been booed. The booing is because they think Sky dope.

well they ought to poo Trek , Bora and Astana then

brocbrocach

rtmie wrote: »

I'd say there's huge respect for Dan and how he is racing this race. In any cast, at that stage it was better for those guys to invest in staying away from the bunch after being in the break all day, regardless of their final position.

I was surprised they stepped up for him to be honest. It'd be great to think that they decided to help a good guy out. Geshke and DeGendt are hardened pros, I can't see them racing that hard for 22nd place alone.
Unless Lefevre flashed the cash or something? :cool:
I love watching Dan. Someone better name him sportsman of the year...

buffalo

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Froome is in a different league to the rest of them. He is not very admired around here yet he seems to have it all - can climb, sprint, descend and time trial better than most guys plus he has got that hard hungry edge about him. He might not come across as very outgoing in interviews but he certainly has the right blend to win these tours.

I can't think of any finishes where I've seen Froome unleash a decent sprint?

Lusk_Doyle

Lumen wrote: »

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

The French don't like Froome or SKY in general. They have the same feelings towards the British in general so that may be part of it. No idea what's it's about but it's unlikely they will change their opinion.

Eh, wut?

I've been to France many times and never been booed. The booing is because they think Sky dope.

That's only because you throw on your Wicklow GAA kit and give it your best "begorah, where's me lucky charms?" so they think you are Irish!