Bloggers and Mental Health

retro:electro

sashafierce wrote: »

Obviously I wasn't there  when it was said but its all down to tone really. In her line of work there is loads of people it could be. My worry is someone followed her home to get her home address that's frightening

Not really. When I followed her she used to frequently snap her street and outside her house. Not that hard to figure out where it is if you were bothered enough to look.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

It's always a drama with her though

sashafierce

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purplecow1977

LexieOnRale wrote: »

It's always a drama with her though

You wouldn't consider it to be worth speaking about then?

dizzyn

It really does take a special kind of person to deliberately go out of their way to call a blogger names. Like it's borderline, if not, psychotic. I can't imagine how on edge RMC must have felt after.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Though that said, if it did happen then I hope the person is caught. It takes a special kind of physco to find out where a stranger lives to tie nasty balloons on their door. It's unnerving to think that someone so weird was just the other side of your door, and nobody deserves to feel frightened in their own home.

I can't help but be skeptical though. There's a huge drama a few hours after she appears back on a platform she created content about leaving? She's an expert at driving traffic to her blog, the drama on the Facebook groups, the drama surrounding the gossies, the drama surrounding the issue of consent.

She needs followers, that's her bread and butter. Now if I take it for face value of what I'm reading here, it's a deplorable thing to do and I hope whoever put the balloons there are caught.

njs030

Wasn't it really weird stuff though. The thalidomide comment in particular? I've never heard that used as an insult, has anyone else?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I'm too thick I've never even heard that word before it sounds like a chemical you'd find in sellafield

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Wait it's actually a medication and not an insult

njs030

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Wait it's actually a medication and not an insult

You're not thick!!

It's a medication that was given to pregnant women for morning sickness back in the 50's and 60's and it had the side effect of making their babies disfigured.

Really strange insult to put on a balloon!

retro:electro

notjustsweet wrote: »

You're not thick!!

It's a medication that was given to pregnant women for morning sickness back in the 50's and 60's and it had the side effect of making their babies disfigured.

Really strange insult to put on a balloon!

Yea I'd never heard of it and had to look up what it meant. Not the sort of insult that just rolls off the tongue anyway!

purplecow1977

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Though that said, if it did happen then I hope the person is caught. It takes a special kind of physco to find out where a stranger lives to tie nasty balloons on their door. It's unnerving to think that someone so weird was just the other side of your door, and nobody deserves to feel frightened in their own home.

I can't help but be skeptical though. There's a huge drama a few hours after she appears back on a platform she created content about leaving? She's an expert at driving traffic to her blog, the drama on the Facebook groups, the drama surrounding the gossies, the drama surrounding the issue of consent.

She needs followers, that's her bread and butter. Now if I take it for face value of what I'm reading here, it's a deplorable thing to do and I hope whoever put the balloons there are caught.

So you don't believe it happened then?

Bloggers may lie about getting lip fillers & cosmetic surgery, I'm not sure they'd lie about this! Then again, stranger things have happened!!

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Purple cow, I don't know to be honest. Just given the fact I don't follow this blogger and still hear about all her dramas everywhere else every few months, I'm open minded. It's just my personal opinion and I've no reason to believe she's lying about this, just again I'm on the fence just with the timing and previous form. But, taking it for what it is, would hope anyone who would do such a thing is caught and punished as nobody deserves to be scared in their own home.

Also there is a mod warning a few posts above in relation to topics that have no place in this thread, just incase you missed it

purplecow1977

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Purple cow, I don't know to be honest. Just given the fact I don't follow this blogger and still hear about all her dramas everywhere else every few months, I'm open minded. It's just my personal opinion and I've no reason to believe she's lying about this, just again I'm on the fence just with the timing and previous form. But, taking it for what it is, would hope anyone who would do such a thing is caught and punished as nobody deserves to be scared in their own home.

Also there is a mod warning a few posts above in relation to topics that have no place in this thread, just incase you missed it

Shouldn't you follow similar advice?

I'd imagine someone arriving to your home and placing balloons with negative comments on them would affect most people's mental health!

And for someone who doesn't follow her, you seem to know quite a bit about her ....

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Nothing that hasn't been well documented online TBH

purplecow1977

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Nothing that hasn't been well documented online TBH

Fair enough.

Jurgen Klopp

sashafierce wrote: »

Looks like she is taking a career turn too to become a personal trainer instead of blogging. I don't blame her.
Yes she reported it and the guards said " did you do anything to piss anyone off" because that justifys it !!!!!!!

Ah now tbf that's one of the first questions they ask in regards to harassment

It could be a co worker you reported, a neighbour you brought to court or simple someone you had fisty cuffs in the pub a few months back

It gives them some semblance of a direction to go in

Was it herself that tried to imply that question was out of order? Seems very immature/trying to dramatise things further

purplecow1977

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Ah now tbf that's one of the first questions they ask in regards to harassment

It could be a co worker you reported, a neighbour you brought to court or simple someone you had fisty cuffs in the pub a few months back

It gives them some semblance of a direction to go in

Was it herself that tried to imply that question was out of order? Seems very immature/trying to dramatise things further

That's jumping to conclusions a bit!

idunno78

I'd say it was a more 'where do I start cos I've pissed so many people?' She was talking about! That's what I took from it! Had seen it mentioned on her snap just about balloons a few days ago! But saw the pictures on Twitter last night and jese that's beyond a joke. Way to far! Also she said a day or two after joining snapchat that she has moved house so I'm not sure has she posted her location on Instagram stories cos I never watched them!

Ray37

I saw the pics she posted on Twitter re the balloons, and while RMC is a great one for the drama, I do think this is fully legit. She has posted numerous times around her home, and has mentioned where she lives as well. It'd be fairly easy for a weirdo to find her. She's pretty well know too, so she may have been spotted around the area. I defo dont agree with all the things she comes out with, but I do respect her for speaking her mind, and she's a refreshing change from a lot of the other samey influencers. I hope she is ok, that is a really terrifying thing to have happen her. It's all well and good having a difference of opinion on the internet say, but for someone to come near your home is just another level of scary.

Madam Oblong

Opinionated women always get a load of abuse thrown their way so I fully believe this happened. Some people on here clearly dislike her but that's no reason to think it's not true

Lindy97

Exactly!! You don't like her, fine but don't question her experiences because of it.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Lindy97 wrote: »

Exactly!! You don't like her, fine but don't question her experiences because of it.

I am taking it for what it is but given previous form I am open to other sides of it, that's all.

purplecow1977

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I am taking it for what it is but given previous form I am open to other sides of it, that's all.

Other sides? There aren't other sides - unless it's the 'not true' side???

Personally, I couldn't be a blogger. I couldn't let so much of my personal life be on show and available for scrutiny. There is also the issue of safety, as in this case. It's probably not a good idea to reveal so much of yourself, although I'm sure anyone living in her proximity would know who is living nearby.

Some people don't know where to draw the line in disagreements. Those who resort to insults generally find they can't argue their opinion in a logical and reasonable manner and their argument is instantly weakened.

Lindy97

I agree on the privacy issue, a few bloggers have this problem, where you could actually work out where they live way too easily based on what they show. James Kavanagh had girls outside his house at least once that I saw.
I also personally think with kids, you do have to be very careful what you put online but that's more of a chat for the Friends and Family.
In relation to the mental health aspect, Ive seen a lot of stuff with bloggers where they get obsessed with their views and numbers, and it's beyond it being for business purposes. I saw one blogger obsess because her views were down on a day she didn't really do much, but she was on asking was snapchat down and did people want her to upload the video again? She literally had done nothing of note that day, so possibly people just didn't bother.
It seems very unhealthy to be that obsessed about your followers and put that much weight in it, especially for someone who has anxiety issues.

purplecow1977

Lindy97 wrote: »

I agree on the privacy issue, a few bloggers have this problem, where you could actually work out where they live way too easily based on what they show. James Kavanagh had girls outside his house at least once that I saw.
I also personally think with kids, you do have to be very careful what you put online but that's more of a chat for the Friends and Family.
In relation to the mental health aspect, Ive seen a lot of stuff with bloggers where they get obsessed with their views and numbers, and it's beyond it being for business purposes. I saw one blogger obsess because her views were down on a day she didn't really do much, but she was on asking was snapchat down and did people want her to upload the video again? She literally had done nothing of note that day, so possibly people just didn't bother.
It seems very unhealthy to be that obsessed about your followers and put that much weight in it, especially for someone who has anxiety issues.

Not aware of the blogger you mean, but I think it's a reflection of the society we live in now unfortunately. Many of the things that ordinary people put on social media is for validation and popularity purposes. I know of people who notice if a certain person doesn't 'like' their status on Facebook etc Teenage girls put up posed photos in front of their bathroom door to gain 300+ likes and comments of 'look good' 'thanks bro' etc. This is not a healthy environment for anyone but bloggers are in a vicious circle.

retro:electro

purplecow1977 wrote: »

Other sides? There aren't other sides - unless it's the 'not true' side???

Personally, I couldn't be a blogger. I couldn't let so much of my personal life be on show and available for scrutiny. There is also the issue of safety, as in this case. It's probably not a good idea to reveal so much of yourself, although I'm sure anyone living in her proximity would know who is living nearby.

Some people don't know where to draw the line in disagreements. Those who resort to insults generally find they can't argue their opinion in a logical and reasonable manner and their argument is instantly weakened.

It's not wholly impossible to believe that some people exist out there who manipulate and exploit situations for content- especially when they have previous form for it.
If some people don't want to believe that this happened, well that's their prerogative. When someone lives their life so publicly for all to comment on, don't be surprised when people do just that and have opinions that may differ from others.
Again, I'm not saying that I personally don't believe that this happened, I'd say it did- but I can totally understand why others may be sceptical.

purplecow1977

anna080 wrote: »

It's not wholly impossible to believe that some people exist out there who manipulate and exploit situations for content- especially when they have previous form for it.
If some people don't want to believe that this happened, well that's their prerogative. When someone lives their life so publicly for all to comment on, don't be surprised when people do just that and have opinions that may differ from others.
Again, I'm not saying that I personally don't believe that this happened, I'd say it did- but I can totally understand why others may be sceptical.

'Manipulate and exploit situations'..........
'previous form'.............. What do you mean?

I understand about people living their life publicly and absolutely agree that they shouldn't be surprised when people's opinions differ but I think that's quite different to posting balloons with negativity on them at your door!!!! That's creepy!

retro:electro

purplecow1977 wrote: »

'Manipulate and exploit situations'..........
'previous form'.............. What do you mean?

I understand about people living their life publicly and absolutely agree that they shouldn't be surprised when people's opinions differ but I think that's quite different to posting balloons with negativity on them at your door!!!! That's creepy!

I agree it's creepy. And I'm not getting into this any further- it's off topic and I'm sure boring for others to read.

purplecow1977

anna080 wrote: »

I agree it's creepy. And I'm not getting into this any further- it's off topic and I'm sure boring for others to read.

I'd disagree it's boring for others to read - I'd imagine they'd like to know - am curious myself as to what you meant. Perhaps you could PM me and explain? Thanks!

retro:electro

I just watched Holly Carpenter on Snapchat talk about having anxiety and how she copes with it. Maybe it's because she hasn't got much personality and has the voice of a robot, but I found her to be quite disingenuous. Like she was almost trying to squeeze out a tear and some of the things she said made me cringe. I dono. It's like being some kind of victim or having some kind of affliction is the new social currency.

I'm not saying she doesn't have anxiety, I don't know anything about her and she may well have- but I can't help but think that these bloggers are confusing normal stress and natural fluctuating emotion with having anxiety. It's like everything has to have a label nowadays. Being sad and fed up is now being depressed and having an off day and feeling agitated is now suffering from anxiety.
Everyone has good days and bad days. We all have days where we feel like sh!t. Don't want to get out of bed. Don't want to see people. Feel socially awkward and want to hide from the world. But anxiety is more than just a word to describe your bad day. It doesn't come around on Monday and leave on Tuesday. I feel like these bloggers tend to massively oversimplify these conditions both by how they describe them and how they go about life day to day.

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PLL

anna080 wrote: »

I just watched Holly Carpenter on Snapchat talk about having anxiety and how she copes with it. Maybe it's because she hasn't got much personality and has the voice of a robot, but I found her to be quite disingenuous. Like she was almost trying to squeeze out a tear and some of the things she said made me cringe. I dono. It's like being some kind of victim or having some kind of affliction is the new social currency.

I'm not saying she doesn't have anxiety, I don't know anything about her and she may well have- but I can't help but think that these bloggers are confusing normal stress and natural fluctuating emotion with having anxiety. It's like everything has to have a label nowadays. Being sad and fed up is now being depressed and having an off day and feeling agitated is now suffering from anxiety.
Everyone has good days and bad days. We all have days where we feel like sh!t. Don't want to get out of bed. Don't want to see people. Feel socially awkward and want to hide from the world. But anxiety is more than just a word to describe your bad day. It doesn't come around on Monday and leave on Tuesday. I feel like these bloggers tend to massively oversimplify these conditions both by how they describe them and how they go about life day to day.

As someone who genuinely suffers from anxiety and despises bloggers talking about it like they know what it, this is a perfect synopsis.

Lindy97

I have to agree also, I hate commenting on this topic as I feel if you have doubts about a blogger's mental health claims, it's like you're adding to the stigma and issues we face in this country, in getting mental health taken seriously. But I genuinely have some doubts about some of them.

PLL

Lindy97 wrote: »

I have to agree also, I hate commenting on this topic as I feel if you have doubts about a blogger's mental health claims, it's like you're adding to the stigma and issues we face in this country, in getting mental health taken seriously. But I genuinely have some doubts about some of them.

I do feel the same in regards to the worries around adding to stigma. But, when I'm having a particularly bad day with my mental health there is no way I could go about my day like they do. It is telling people that even if you have anxiety you're still able to go about your day as normal. I know that isn't possible for myself and other sufferers. I do not like the idea at in Ireland it is not acceptable to say no to things due to a mental illness. A physical ailment is an acceptable reason for not being able to do something, a mental one isn't. I have videos recorded of myself during attacks to show my therapist, if I saw anyone in a similar state to me, it would instantly hit home with me and I would be filled with compassion for the person.

via4

PLL wrote: »

I do feel the same in regards to the worries around adding to stigma. But, when I'm having a particularly bad day with my mental health there is no way I could go about my day like they do. It is telling people that even if you have anxiety you're still able to go about your day as normal. I know that isn't possible for myself and other sufferers. I do not like the idea at in Ireland it is not acceptable to say no to things due to a mental illness. A physical ailment is an acceptable reason for not being able to do something, a mental one isn't. I have videos recorded of myself during attacks to show my therapist, if I saw anyone in a similar state to me, it would instantly hit home with me and I would be filled with compassion for the person.

Is it a bit of with them "oh look at me I'm so great I suffer with anxiety but I still go out & do things tell me I'm great brace & fabulous "

Lindy97

You've just outlined the exact reasons I have doubts about some of them. And also that it seems a lot of the time, to be brought up when they're being criticised or having issues as it instantly gets them support and makes anyone saying anything look uncaring. Its used as a defensive mechanism, which in my opinion adds to the stigma far more than someone doubting them.

ratmouse

There seems to be a range of issues that get brought up when their careers are in the spotlight for negative reasons or when their careers appear to be in jeprody. Some days anxiety will be chosen, other days hair problems. The depression card gets played also. And within hours they can be fine again.

retro:electro

Personally I think the hair thing is different. It was clear as day that there was something going on there and something motivating her bizarre behaviour. When she said she had hair loss and suffers with it still, it made sense to me. I can understand how the loss of your hair being so completely out of your control can inspire you to want to control every other aspect of your life and something like that manifests itself in unusual behaviours.

The anxiety thing seems to be used as a crutch a lot. All I know is from those I know who suffer from anxiety, the last thing they do is film themselves afterwards for a bunch of strangers to have a gawk, before heading out for the night later for vinos with the girls acting like nothing ever happened. Maybe that's me being ignorant to it I don't know. But a lot of people are suss.

scarbouro

Lindy97 wrote: »

And also that it seems a lot of the time, to be brought up when they're being criticised or having issues as it instantly gets them support and makes anyone saying anything look uncaring..

This is exactly what I've been trying to say over in the other thread about the Muf. Her timing is Very convenient to say the least...

I'm not trying to stir up anything on this thread as mental health is a serious issue but I find it amusing that some people on this thread are slating other people about their anxiety and depression, saying it's not real But will have a go if someone is saying the exact same thing on a different thread, pointing out near enough the same thing.

As I have previously said, Im not for one minute saying that the muf isn't being genuinely upset about her hair but I feel she is using her platform as a way of gaining support.

retro:electro

Why is her timing convenient?

GingerLily

scarbouro wrote: »

This is exactly what I've been trying to say over in the other thread about the Muf. Her timing is Very convenient to say the least...

I'm not trying to stir up anything on this thread as mental health is a serious issue but I find it amusing that some people on this thread are slating other people about their anxiety and depression, saying it's not real But will have a go if someone is saying the same thing on a different thread pointing out near enough the same thing.

As I have previously said, Im not for one minute saying that the muf isn't being genuinely upset about her hair but I feel she is using her platform as a way of gaining support.

How are the two examples FBG/anxiety and MUF/hair loss comparable? I'm just curious

scarbouro

GingerLily wrote: »

How are the two examples FBG/anxiety and MUF/hair loss comparable? I'm just curious

I wasn't comparing FBG to the muf... I was saying that people often use their hardship /tough time to gain sympathy or support from people. It's not the first or last time one of them will play this card.

retro:electro

scarbouro wrote: »

I wasn't comparing FBG to the muf... I was saying that people often use their hardship /tough time to gain sympathy or support from people. It's not the first or last time one of them will play this card.

If she was that way inclined she would have used it yonks ago. This was something that was building for ages.

scarbouro

anna080 wrote: »

If she was that way inclined she would have used it yonks ago. This was something that was building for ages.

Well that's what you believe Anna but I believe differently so we'll just have leave it there.

njs030

anna080 wrote: »

Why is her timing convenient?

She put up a post about her upcoming tour just afterwards.

GingerLily

scarbouro wrote: »

I wasn't comparing FBG to the muf... I was saying that people often use their hardship /tough time to gain sympathy or support from people. It's not the first or last time one of them will play this card.

Sometimes people need to get things off their chest and maybe yes you they're hoping for support, that's doesn't mean they're manipulating people.
Do some bloggers use this as a tactic? Yes. But it's quite obvious the MUF had a body and image issue so I'd be happy to take her at face value on this one.

You can be sceptical if you want though, nothing wrong with that.

retro:electro

notjustsweet wrote: »

She put up a post about her upcoming tour just afterwards.

She announced that a few weeks ago

njs030

anna080 wrote: »

She announced that a few weeks ago

I know that Anna. Promoting it minutes after crying on snapchat seemed a bit off.

retro:electro

notjustsweet wrote: »

I know that Anna. Promoting it minutes after crying on snapchat seemed a bit off.

Not the smartest move, I'll admit that.