World's 2017

MPFGLB · 14-09-2017 11:07am

Not sure why MUllen is not riding the TT...strange as it is his best discipline and he came 5th last year

godtabh · 14-09-2017 11:09am

MPFGLB wrote: »

Not sure why MUllen is not riding the TT...strange as it is his best discipline and he came 5th last year

Was just going to ask the same!

Weepsie · 14-09-2017 11:14am

Damien Shaw was riding A1 only 4 years ago was it? and is now off to the World Champs at 33. Fair play.

14-09-2017 11:21am

Odd one alright Mullen not doing the TT, didn't he take bronze at the Euro's last month? OK I'd expect the field to be much stronger here but I'd still not rule him out of a decent placing.

Pudsy33 · 14-09-2017 11:34am

He must be looking at the hill at the end and thinking it doesn't suit him.

MPFGLB · 14-09-2017 11:52am

Pudsy33 wrote: »

He must be looking at the hill at the end and thinking it doesn't suit him.

Thw hill is not that long and every worlds TT could have a hill

He needs to continue to test himslef against the best TTers on all terraine to improve

Very very strange decision ...after all he is hardly going to be better on the hill in the RR

Must be why the team announcement was delayed....maybe they tried to persuade him

odyssey06 · 14-09-2017 12:20pm

Is Phil Deignan injured? Thought he would have liked to race in the worlds after a v quiet season...

14-09-2017 12:53pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Is Phil Deignan injured? Thought he would have liked to race in the worlds after a v quiet season...

No he raced in Canada last weekend and Tour of Burgos before that, think he abandoned there though.

Thud · 14-09-2017 2:47pm

MPFGLB wrote: »

Thw hill is not that long and every worlds TT could have a hill

He needs to continue to test himslef against the best TTers on all terraine to improve

Very very strange decision ...after all he is hardly going to be better on the hill in the RR

Must be why the team announcement was delayed....maybe they tried to persuade him

After missing out on grand tour selection this year maybe wants to show he's more than just a TT'er to avoid the same thing happening at Trek...

gordongekko · 14-09-2017 3:13pm

No Sam Bennett either.

edit: hes ill

gordongekko · 14-09-2017 3:18pm

Its a little disappointing that we dont take up our full allocation of spots. Surely it would be a good opportunity for someone to gain the experience of the worlds if nothing else

check_six · 14-09-2017 3:23pm

gordongekko wrote: »

Its a little disappointing that we dont take up our full allocation of spots. Surely it would be a good opportunity for someone to gain the experience of the worlds if nothing else

What allocation are we entitled to? Do all six on the list get to start the road race? Six seems like more than we've had in ages, or ever?

gordongekko · 14-09-2017 3:34pm

check_six wrote: »

What allocation are we entitled to? Do all six on the list get to start the road race? Six seems like more than we've had in ages, or ever?

We are only using one of the two TT spots in the mens and in the Womens we could have sent a maximum of three riders to the women’s road race and are sending one and we are only using one of the two spots in the TT.

dastardly00 · 14-09-2017 4:44pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Is Phil Deignan injured? Thought he would have liked to race in the worlds after a v quiet season...

He's definitely not injured anyway because Lizzie Deignan posted a photo on Instagram a few hours ago of her first post-surgery spin, which happened to be with Phil and Nico Roche

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZBUgEdgAiu/

MPFGLB · 14-09-2017 8:46pm

So is there any real reaason for Mullen not to be doing the TT...

bazermc · 14-09-2017 9:52pm

Lydia Boylan confirmed for the ladies road racing.

wav1 · 14-09-2017 9:57pm

MPFGLB wrote: »

So is there any real reaason for Mullen not to be doing the TT...

Simple.The parcours doesn't suit him.Its been knocking about for months that he wasn't doing it.

eeeee · 14-09-2017 10:01pm

Pity Lydia can't have more support in the women's race, plenty of strong women around to support her you would have thought...

14-09-2017 10:27pm

nee wrote: »

Pity Lydia can't have more support in the women's race, plenty of strong women around to support her you would have thought...

Pisses me off big time. Strong or not at least give someone capable of avoiding the broom wagon even a day out and a chance to see what the big stage is like with the pros . Even from a point of view where showing them what it's like might drive them to improve or raise their ambitions. I mean we don't not send runners etc to events because they'll go out in the heats.

Lusk_Doyle · 14-09-2017 10:45pm

wav1 wrote: »

Simple.The parcours doesn't suit him.Its been knocking about for months that he wasn't doing it.

A rolling course with one short, steep climb? Surely he can handle that?

14-09-2017 10:49pm

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

A rolling course with one short, steep climb? Surely he can handle that?

How steep was the climb at the nationals?

eeeee · 14-09-2017 11:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Pisses me off big time. Strong or not at least give someone capable of avoiding the broom wagon even a day out and a chance to see what the big stage is like with the pros . Even from a point of view where showing them what it's like might drive them to improve or raise their ambitions. I mean we don't not send runners etc to events because they'll go out in the heats.

Plenty of actual strong women out there that could support here, not just dodge the broomwagon. I can only imagine the energy that would be expended if a similar situation happened with the men's.

Doc07 · 14-09-2017 11:37pm

Weepsie wrote: »

Damien Shaw was riding A1 only 4 years ago was it? and is now off to the World Champs at 33. Fair play.

And he's a fireman. This is Roy of the Rovers stuff. Surely worth an article in a mainstream paper sports supplement.
I was cheering on Contador the other day like any other fanboy but the Damien Shaw story of the last 2-3 years is just fantastic. Really inspiring.

StevieGriff · 14-09-2017 11:39pm

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

A rolling course with one short, steep climb? Surely he can handle that?

Seen a lot of this kinda "yeaara I could do that myself" sort of outlook on Mullen giving the TT a miss. The lad is 23 and has 12000k of racing in his legs this year.
I think he's probably in the best position to decide if he can "handle" the course.
The climb at the end is 3.4k at a 9.1% average. In TT's like the europeans this year it was so flat that power and speed become absolute and w/kg don't really matter.
Chuck in a climb like that at the end and it tips the balance toward the likes of Froome (Dumoulin to win though).
Mullen is about 80kg. Averaged 440w for his Bronze in the Europeans. Massive numbers...but not so much on 10% gradients.

15-09-2017 12:27am

nee wrote: »

Plenty of actual strong women out there that could support here, not just dodge the broomwagon. I can only imagine the energy that would be expended if a similar situation happened with the men's.

Sorry nee I was likely a bit inarticulate as usual

. I'm sure you get my meaning though. Fill the slots with the best we have is what I meant to imply.

MPFGLB · 15-09-2017 2:20am

StevieGriff wrote: »

Seen a lot of this kinda "yeaara I could do that myself" sort of outlook on Mullen giving the TT a miss. The lad is 23 and has 12000k of racing in his legs this year.
I think he's probably in the best position to decide if he can "handle" the course.
The climb at the end is 3.4k at a 9.1% average. In TT's like the europeans this year it was so flat that power and speed become absolute and w/kg don't really matter.
Chuck in a climb like that at the end and it tips the balance toward the likes of Froome (Dumoulin to win though).
Mullen is about 80kg. Averaged 440w for his Bronze in the Europeans. Massive numbers...but not so much on 10% gradients.

He is 77kg ...Tony Martin is 75Kg, Rohan Dennis is 72kg and Stefan Kung is 85kg , Maciej Bodnar = 72Kg and Thomas = 71KG

The thing is not about him wining...its about him taking part and going up against these guys .. Bigger guys from all over the world enter the TT for their country without any chance of wining

Nico Roche is 70Kg and he will give it a good go ....as he does on very steep and very long climbs...

ITT in worlds usually have climbs ...if you want to progress you take part ..no course is ever 100% suitable

And as for too much racing in his legs why is he doing the RR if that is the case...harder day and not something he has a hope in hell of featuring in

Mind boggling....what happened to wanting to represent your country
Its a poor show ..and other lads representing their country will be as young and have raced as much

Keeks · 15-09-2017 8:28am

MPFGLB wrote: »

Mind boggling....what happened to wanting to represent your country
Its a poor show ..and other lads representing their country will be as young and have raced as much

Is that a different Ryan Mullan representing Ireland in the RR?

Lusk_Doyle · 15-09-2017 8:47am

StevieGriff wrote: »

Seen a lot of this kinda "yeaara I could do that myself"

Thanks for the unwarranted and incredibly condescending post. I most certainly do not have that thought contrary to what you have asserted.

MPFGLB · 15-09-2017 9:26am

Keeks wrote: »

Is that a different Ryan Mullan representing Ireland in the RR?

But that is where it makes no sense ...why enter an event where you willbe no where and not enter an event where you are among the best in the world

pelevin · 15-09-2017 9:30am

Just seen what look amazingly long odds of over 20/1 on Tony Martin. Does that make sense given the nature of teh course - that he is a rank outsider? And if the course is that stacked towards guys good at climbing, the 4/1 odds on Froome seem generous also in that light.

Ryan Mullen's absence in the TT seems very odd to me also, just to say it.

World's 2017

Comments