Heavyweight Boxing

normanoffside

Hearn was talking like he knew nothing after the fight on Saturday

https://youtu.be/tJgXdcxAIwk?t=4050

normanoffside

Hearn speaks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBhfGRV7D4Y

Whyte was cleared to fight.
Whyte will make a statement tomorrow which will clear everything up

mada82

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Not really seen as hes there man , theyll say nothing untill the B sample is tested

I was being sarcastic. The BBC even have it up. Typical sky to pretend something isn’t happening if it doesn’t suit their agenda.

squinn2912

If we’re to presume that the B sample puts him down then is the fight a no contest or a reversal? Surely this would raise Rivas’ stock.

squinn2912

There’s talk of an 8 year ban if this b sample follows the a. Somehow I can see that being avoided

Pighead

I'm confused by the whole thing. If he had the hearing before the fight and UKAD decided that he was ok to continue does that not mean that there's no real issue here? It would suggest that Whyte had a genuine and believable reason to explain the traces of dodgy stuff in his body. Failing that it would suggest that UKAD are corrupt and not fit for purpose?

squinn2912

What’s the easiest thing here so that everyone saves face? B sample comes back clear. I seebit going that way with little or no ban. It is very interesting though

The Nal

Pighead wrote: »

I'm confused by the whole thing. If he had the hearing before the fight and UKAD decided that he was ok to continue does that not mean that there's no real issue here? It would suggest that Whyte had a genuine and believable reason to explain the traces of dodgy stuff in his body. Failing that it would suggest that UKAD are corrupt and not fit for purpose?

Its very odd. Unless this "metabolites" shíte has become acceptable.

normanoffside

Pighead wrote: »

I'm confused by the whole thing. If he had the hearing before the fight and UKAD decided that he was ok to continue does that not mean that there's no real issue here? It would suggest that Whyte had a genuine and believable reason to explain the traces of dodgy stuff in his body. Failing that it would suggest that UKAD are corrupt and not fit for purpose?

He'll have blamed some energy drink/ dodgy supplement is my guess same as the last time.
Interestingly, one of the metabolites he tested for this time is the same one as he got a ban for the last time.
The Difference now is that the two metabolites found together this time point straight to Dianabol

squinn2912 wrote: »

What’s the easiest thing here so that everyone saves face? B sample comes back clear. I seebit going that way with little or no ban. It is very interesting though

If his B sample is clear then there is no sanction, he is innocent.
This only happens something like 1 in 100 times though.

Angliru

squinn2912 wrote: »

What’s the easiest thing here so that everyone saves face? B sample comes back clear. I seebit going that way with little or no ban. It is very interesting though

Very unlikely B sample comes back clean. Tainted supplement route I'd imagine. Proven to have worked time and time again.

Mike9832

normanoffside wrote: »

He'll have blamed some energy drink/ dodgy supplement is my guess same as the last time.
Interestingly, one of the metabolites he tested for this time is the same one as he got a ban for the last time.
The Difference now is that the two metabolites found together this time point straight to Dianabol



If his B sample is clear then there is no sanction, he is innocent.
This only happens something like 1 in 100 times though.

Dbol seems a weird drug for a boxer to take, it's not exactly a desinger drug, oral, taken possibly multiple times a day

normanoffside

Whyte's long awaited statement. Ediie was saying last night that it woud clear everything up :rolleyes:

https://twitter.com/DillianWhyte/status/1154722578952531969

Dillian Whyte wrote:

I am so disappointed with the rubbish that has been said about me over the last few days.
I have lawyers dealing with it and I have been told that I can't talk about it for good legal reasons.
I was cleared to fight and I won that fight fair and square.

Thanks for the support

Pighead

Pighead wrote: »

I'm confused by the whole thing. If he had the hearing before the fight and UKAD decided that he was ok to continue does that not mean that there's no real issue here? It would suggest that Whyte had a genuine and believable reason to explain the traces of dodgy stuff in his body. Failing that it would suggest that UKAD are corrupt and not fit for purpose?

If anyone thinks it's only the Russian anti-doping crowd who are influenced and swayed they want to get themselves checked.

dougm1970

squinn2912 wrote: »

What’s the easiest thing here so that everyone saves face? B sample comes back clear. I seebit going that way with little or no ban. It is very interesting though

how does the boxing board of control save face if B sample comes back clear ?....its a matter of absolute principle how it was dealt with by them

iebamm2580

dougm1970 wrote: »

how does the boxing board of control save face if B sample comes back clear ?....its a matter of absolute principle how it was dealt with by them

The b won't come back clear, I do however think that supplement s can be tainted, I thought he was part of out of competition testing too unlike some boxers, I font beluevevhe would be so stupid to try juice if he's likely to get randomly tested.

dougm1970

[MEDIA=twitter]1154723291963305985[/MEDIA]



Taken from Reddit -



Whyte: ****ing Hell.

Hearn: Alright Mate?

Whyte: ****ing hell in it, Jesus Christ bruv. I haven't slept at all the last couple of days.

Hearn: Nor have I, but I didn't have to fight.

Whyte: ****sake.

Hearn: Mate, that was the miracle of all miracles wasn't it?

Whyte: That's the difference between being a professional...

Hearn: I had everything, I had a statement for you ready to go.... and he just phone me up and was like... we did it and i was like oh my god.

Whyte: I need to keep my hair for some reason. It's a ****ing stitch up, I passed 2 tests in 2 days and then one in a million..



video of above here...

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squinn2912

dougm1970 wrote: »

how does the boxing board of control save face if B sample comes back clear ?....its a matter of absolute principle how it was dealt with by them

Calm down I’m not in on it! It’s bizarre that he was allowed to fight. Is the implication that he wanted to shave his head? I thought these days all tests were blood

normanoffside

In a complete change of subject, Hughie Fury has joined matchroom

squinn2912

normanoffside wrote: »

In a complete change of subject, Hughie Fury has joined matchroom

Do I see. Smart move. He could step into any gap left

normanoffside

squinn2912 wrote: »

Do I see. Smart move. He could step into any gap left

I’d say he’ll fight Price next.

squinn2912

normanoffside wrote: »

He’ll fight Price next. (Me prediction btw).

First thing that came to mind. I think he beats Price

dougm1970

i'll try this again...not sure how to embed a twitter video....but trust me..worth seeing...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1154564628162084864


[MEDIA=twitter]1154723291963305985[/MEDIA]


Taken from Reddit -



Whyte: ****ing Hell.

Hearn: Alright Mate?

Whyte: ****ing hell in it, Jesus Christ bruv. I haven't slept at all the last couple of days.

Hearn: Nor have I, but I didn't have to fight.

Whyte: ****sake.

Hearn: Mate, that was the miracle of all miracles wasn't it?

Whyte: That's the difference between being a professional...

Hearn: I had everything, I had a statement for you ready to go.... and he just phone me up and was like... we did it and i was like oh my god.

Whyte: I need to keep my hair for some reason. It's a ****ing stitch up, I passed 2 tests in 2 days and then one in a million..

iebamm2580

dougm1970 wrote: »

i'll try this again...not sure how to embed a twitter video....but trust me..worth seeing...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1154564628162084864


[MEDIA=twitter]1154723291963305985[/MEDIA]


Taken from Reddit -



Whyte: ****ing Hell.

Hearn: Alright Mate?

Whyte: ****ing hell in it, Jesus Christ bruv. I haven't slept at all the last couple of days.

Hearn: Nor have I, but I didn't have to fight.

Whyte: ****sake.

Hearn: Mate, that was the miracle of all miracles wasn't it?

Whyte: That's the difference between being a professional...

Hearn: I had everything, I had a statement for you ready to go.... and he just phone me up and was like... we did it and i was like oh my god.

Whyte: I need to keep my hair for some reason. It's a ****ing stitch up, I passed 2 tests in 2 days and then one in a million..

Was wondering about the hair, he normally shaves that for fights. Can be last place to leave the body in some cases.

normanoffside

Doug is that from a pre or post fight conference?

normanoffside

They thought the fight was off anyway..

dougm1970

normanoffside wrote: »

Doug is that from a pre or post fight conference?

post...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVEIIPV7spM

normanoffside

dougm1970 wrote: »

post...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVEIIPV7spM

Right, so they hadn't spoken since the hearing on the Saturday morning.

Looks very bad for Hearn, sounds like he got the big lawyers in to make sure the fight went ahead.

I also wouldn't say it looks great for Whyte, sounds like he is trying to convince Eddie he didn't take anything.

ASOT

Asking him to keep his hair, hair follicle test?

dougm1970

spencer fearon says that rivas failed his test too.
a "breaking news" upload on IFL .

squinn2912

dougm1970 wrote: »

spencer fearon says that rivas failed his test too.
a "breaking news" upload on IFL .

If that’s true I wonder could both have agreed to ask for b samples and fight in the meantime ?