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United People, It's Time For Ruddy Change!

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    #572
    eldamo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭eldamo


    whippet wrote: »
    It’s been fairly banal in the world of UP these days .. but I’ve seen a few posts by Jeff’s former right hand man claiming that Jeff got involved with the German lad who is been extradited for fraud ... it wouldn’t be like jeff to get suckered by some conman peddling freeman type nonsense

    He was all over that scene alright.

    Freemanism. Totally not a con.

    Just happens to appeal to a large amount of conmen...


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    #573
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    eldamo wrote: »
    He was all over that scene alright.

    Freemanism. Totally not a con.

    Just happens to appeal to a large amount of conmen...

    There was a bit of Interaction between Jeff and that German lad on the up page a while ago. I would go check but I'm blocked.


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    #574
    eldamo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭eldamo


    Owryan wrote: »
    There was a bit of Interaction between Jeff and that German lad on the up page a while ago. I would go check but I'm blocked.

    Due to his posting rate "up the page"= "somewhere in the mists of time"

    I'm sure Jeff doesn't do much of a background check on someone who agrees with him.


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    #575
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    eldamo wrote: »
    Due to his posting rate "up the page"= "somewhere in the mists of time"

    I'm sure Jeff doesn't do much of a background check on someone who agrees with him.

    Sorry, meant up as in united people, but yet given his level of posting they are a while ago now


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    #576
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,488 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    That's funny about the German. I even thought he was involved with the running of UP but might be wrong.


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    #577
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    humberklog wrote: »
    That's funny about the German. I even thought he was involved with the running of UP but might be wrong.

    Only one person runs up.


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    #578
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    How democratic!


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    #579
    Robbo
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    The German has been hanging around the various Freeman groups for the last couple of years. Of course they're all claiming he was never one of theirs now, despite sharing many of his posts involving esoteric constitutional theories.

    Then there are the true believers who reckon he's been set up by the Gubbermint to stop him from getting close to the truth...


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    #580
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭whippet


    The aristocrat from Kildare even stuck up a post saying he knew all along but didn’t want to say anything until now !!


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    #581
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    The German was 100% associated with Jeff. Jeff had him as one of his speakers at that very weird meeting above Devitts pub. Humberklog was in attendance too I believe.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/fake-gold-bar-seller-hunted-12374393


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    #582
    Pelvis Parsley
    Registered Users Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Oh Aindru! I remember him now.


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    #583
    Eggonyerface
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Eggonyerface


    I got very excited a few minutes ago driving down kildare Street to see a few bodies holding a united people banner outside lenster house. No sighting of Jeff, probably for the best...I think I would have been starstruck


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    #584
    TheAnalyst_
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    Eggonyerface wrote: »
    I got very excited a few minutes ago driving down kildare Street to see a few bodies holding a united people banner outside lenster house. No sighting of Jeff, probably for the best...I think I would have been starstruck

    Facebook reports have him at the dail. He must have used his flexi-time to get the morning off.


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    #585
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    The German was 100% associated with Jeff. Jeff had him as one of his speakers at that very weird meeting above Devitts pub. Humberklog was in attendance too I believe.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/fake-gold-bar-seller-hunted-12374393

    It appears Jeff and this Aindriu MacHolst man are quite good friends...


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    #586
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,488 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Lock down in Dublin City!
    Justice for Jobpath (a UnitedPeople production) have organised a march titled End of the Road for Jobpath and it's taking place today! Starting at 9 from Leinster House the masses will make their way down to the DSP on Store Street for 12.

    Hopefully there'll be photos to follow, maybe even on the national if not the international news...speaking of which- did Jeff ever get to detailing his proposed world shattering court case against the state?


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    #587
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭whippet


    Jeff has confirmed just recently that the numbers were small ... but they were polite !!

    And of course he gets a phone call just as he is speaking to Marty McGrath !!


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    #588
    eldamo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭eldamo


    whippet wrote: »
    Jeff has confirmed just recently that the numbers were small ... but they were polite !!

    And of course he gets a phone call just as he is speaking to Marty McGrath !!

    And Richard Boyd Barrett agrees with them. Imagine that....


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    #589
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,488 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    There's a funny post on Jeff's page from a few days ago. He talks about being contacted by a fake journalist (or something) wanting to do a piece on small political parties. Jeff smelled a rat (karate manskillz) and gave this nosy parker short shrift.

    The his Walter Mitty nonsense follows- saying his house was attacked, broken windows, bugged, computer interfered with all by political parties he disagrees with- L,FF,FG. It's the usual unwell in the head stuff that kinda makes me worry for his kids.
    However the fake news fella went on to ask about Jeff and UP's relationship with Aindriu Macholst. Jeff scoffed as fake gold bars and somali pirates were mentioned.
    Jeff-"you couldn't make it up" he says about this nonsense and lies and goes on to deny any knowledge of the said German fraudster who was recently deported to Germany to face charges.
    He then says that his friend and all round good guy Aindriu Macholst in Donegal who's involved with the fishing demos has nothing to do with the Aindriu Macholst mentioned in the papers as a fraudster living in Donegal with strong connections with its fishing community.

    Indeed Jeff- you couldn't make it up.


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    #590
    Pelvis Parsley
    Registered Users Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Yep, just like Ben of the Clan Gilroy wasn't a Freeman, and had told Jeff so personally.

    That thread is worth a read, again and again-the squirming and weasel words are a joy to behold.


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    #591
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭whippet


    He has a short video of the protest earlier !! Looks like five heads in total and Ailster sounds like the brains of the operation !!


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    #592
    furiousox
    Registered Users Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭furiousox


    The funniest thing of all is the pretence that he's standing up to protect "jobseekers" rights.
    Do you think Jeff, or anyone he represents is "actively seeking employment"?

    CPL 593H



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    #593
    eldamo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭eldamo


    furiousox wrote: »
    The funniest thing of all is the pretence that he's standing up to protect "jobseekers" rights.
    Do you think Jeff, or anyone he represents is "actively seeking employment"?

    Jeff represents Jeff.

    Anyone else is just there to make up the numbers.


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    #594
    [Deleted User]
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    Alistair is the greater speaker and the greater mind. He's also more youthful and I think if United People is to progress, then Jeff should hand over the reins to Alistair.

    If Jeff doesn't do the right thing soon by stepping back, there's a few of us who will make it happen as we want Alistair on the throne.


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    #595
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Alistair is the greater speaker and the greater mind. He's also more youthful and I think if United People is to progress, then Jeff should hand over the reins to Alistair.

    If Jeff doesn't do the right thing soon by stepping back, there's a few of us who will make it happen as we want Alistair on the throne.

    Surprised that jeffys mission to help people stay on the dole isnt reason enough to get rid of him. Or, for that matter, his paronia about being spied on.


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    #596
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,489 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Alistair is the greater speaker and the greater mind. He's also more youthful and I think if United People is to progress, then Jeff should hand over the reins to Alistair.

    If Jeff doesn't do the right thing soon by stepping back, there's a few of us who will make it happen as we want Alistair on the throne.
    You're a follower of this party?
    I don't want to sound like I'm mocking but really?


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    #597
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    You're a follower of this party?
    I don't want to sound like I'm mocking but really?

    Yes really

    OK, they may not have corporate big bodies to Polish their words but they have the upmost respect for the real people of Ireland and not for others with richer ideas and schemes in mind


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    #598
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,488 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes really

    OK, they may not have corporate big bodies to Polish their words but they have the upmost respect for the real people of Ireland and not for others with richer ideas and schemes in mind

    Who is the "they" these days though? I'm aware of Alistair but other than that there doesn't really seem to be anyone else doing anything.

    I know nothing really about Alistair but what I do know about Jeff is that he respects no one. He might pretend to but that's all he's doing- pretending.


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    #599
    Eggonyerface
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Eggonyerface


    humberklog wrote: »
    There's a funny post on Jeff's page from a few days ago. He talks about being contacted by a fake journalist (or something) wanting to do a piece on small political parties. Jeff smelled a rat (karate manskillz) and gave this nosy parker short shrift.

    The his Walter Mitty nonsense follows- saying his house was attacked, broken windows, bugged, computer interfered with all by political parties he disagrees with- L,FF,FG. It's the usual unwell in the head stuff that kinda makes me worry for his kids.
    However the fake news fella went on to ask about Jeff and UP's relationship with Aindriu Macholst. Jeff scoffed as fake gold bars and somali pirates were mentioned.
    Jeff-"you couldn't make it up" he says about this nonsense and lies and goes on to deny any knowledge of the said German fraudster who was recently deported to Germany to face charges.
    He then says that his friend and all round good guy Aindriu Macholst in Donegal who's involved with the fishing demos has nothing to do with the Aindriu Macholst mentioned in the papers as a fraudster living in Donegal with strong connections with its fishing community.

    Indeed Jeff- you couldn't make it up.

    Check the edit history of that particular post for the craic,it was at 20 edits last night


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    #600
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Alistair is the greater speaker and the greater mind. He's also more youthful and I think if United People is to progress, then Jeff should hand over the reins to Alistair.

    If Jeff doesn't do the right thing soon by stepping back, there's a few of us who will make it happen as we want Alistair on the throne.

    If/when jeff sees this, will we get another split in the party? We have a party member openly declaring that they want Jeff out.


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    #601
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,488 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Owryan wrote: »
    If/when jeff sees this, will we get another split in the party? We have a party member openly declaring that they want Jeff out.


    If that was to happen again the same thing would happen. It's Jeff's ball and if he's not captain no one's playing with it.
    He's on record as saying he owns the name, it's his manifesto, it's his banners, leaflets and loudspeaker. He's invested all his and his family's time and money into the operation and he'll not give that up. He's actually said that.
    Democracy Rudd style.


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