No Time to Die **Spoilers from post #1449 onward**

CastorTroy

Just remember if you want to sound like you know what you're talking about with the young ones that it's pronounced "Billie Aye-lish" and not like the Irish "Élish"

Cork Boy 53

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I'd say it's up there with the best. It's just so epic.
Honestly, i'd put it top 3 easy thinking about it now. James and Felix parachute down for felix's wedding after capturing sanchez then the big "dunnnnnnnnnnn DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.... gotta hold onto your love... do do do do DUNNNNN DUNNNNNN" :pac:

Also the song that played over the closing credits of LTK, If You Asked Me To by Patti Labelle, is often forgotten about but I think it is very good.

MisterAnarchy

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Also the song that played over the closing credits of LTK, If You Asked Me To by Patti Labelle, is often forgotten about but I think it is very good.

That's the beauty and the genius of the Bond theme songs ,most of them are timeless .

Shelga

Listening to You Only Live Twice by Nancy Sinatra too, pretty great song!

Except now I think of Mad Men, not Bond, when I hear it...

seenitall

loyatemu wrote: »

Nat King Coles classic "We have all the time in the world" over the closing credits

I don't know about that Nat King Cole connection, but it was Louis Armstrong who sang that song for the movie - it's really unforgettable!

One of my favourite songs ever.

ETA: Another lesser known one that I like is 'If There Was a Man' by The Pretenders, from TLD.

Hector Savage

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51133194

Bond will remain male ...

"I believe we should be creating new characters for women - strong female characters."

"I'm not particularly interested in taking a male character and having a woman play it. I think women are far more interesting than that."

Spot on indeed!!

ManOfMystery

Probably get slated for this, but I'd love Muse to have a crack at a Bond song. "You know my name" is my favourite one to date because it's a rock song and suited the (new at the time) 'gritty' Bond - they have a knack for combining piano and rock and so on and could make something equally epic.

Someone DIY'd it already on Youtube

pixelburp

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51133194

Bond will remain male ...

Spot on indeed!!

Absolutely nobody outside Twitter & clickbait outlets ever seriously contemplated making Bond a woman. Talk about a contrived outrage loop.

Dades

Maybe nobody with any power contemplated it, but it was annoying to hear people like Brosnan and Cillian Murphy casually throwing it out there and stirring up a non-idea.

pixelburp

Dades wrote: »

Maybe nobody with any power contemplated it, but it was annoying to hear people like Brosnan and Cillian Murphy casually throwing it out there and stirring up a non-idea.

Perhaps, but their answers only ever struck as half-hearted "yeah, sure, great idea!", the kind the uninvolved might give - or indeed the trolling. These actors have to do tedious press junkets, being asked the most asinine or plain stupid questions, so I can sorta forgive throwing out answers you know the interviewer wants to hear. As you say though, nobody in power - or with an ounce of respectability - ever took the idea seriously. But, to mangle a quote from Dune, The Outrage Must Flow.

It must take the patience of a saint to sit there, patiently fielding blather; I always recall that infamous question asked of The Corrs during one of these puff pieces, "so when did you guys first meet?".

ManOfMystery

Dades wrote: »

Maybe nobody with any power contemplated it, but it was annoying to hear people like Brosnan and Cillian Murphy casually throwing it out there and stirring up a non-idea.

I guess they were asked and had to give a suitably PC response.

I'm glad to hear it's no-go for sure, we don't need a Jane Bond. They can craft a new female 008 all they want, but leave 007 alone.

Hande hoche!

Well even if the film is bad at least we got some fairly crap Heineken ads from it.

seenitall

Intense James Norton rumours swirling around (again).

*warning* only a rumour!

But apparently he was out with some mates at the New Year, and one of them spilled the beans in the pub.

Then Ladbrokes suspended the betting on him.

We'll see if it's true a bit later this year, BB will apparently make the announcement right after the NTTD cinema run.

I woulda gone for someone like Aidan Turner myself...

pixelburp

So ... uh, ... literally a "some guy in a pub" rumour?

seenitall

pixelburp wrote: »

So ... uh, ... literally a "some guy in a pub" rumour?

Yup, That's about the height of it!

I just thought I'd get it in here, so in case it's true, I win! ... or something ...

(What a saddo, I know, but at least I'm a 007 fandom saddo)

py2006

seenitall wrote: »

Intense James Norton rumours swirling around (again).

*warning* only a rumour!

But apparently he was out with some mates at the New Year, and one of them spilled the beans in the pub.

Then Ladbrokes suspended the betting on him.

We'll see if it's true a bit later this year, BB will apparently make the announcement right after the NTTD cinema run.

I woulda gone for someone like Aidan Turner myself...

I thought the next Bond had to be the furthest thing from a straight white male as possible??


Ideally a black asian lesbian dwarf who identifies as an aboriginal albino siamese twin

Dades

py2006 wrote: »

Ideally a black asian lesbian dwarf who identifies as an aboriginal albino siamese twin

Scarlett Johansson is in talks, I believe.

Peatys

Drumpot wrote: »

I think that was the first bond I saw in the cinema with my dad. Always have a soft spot for the Dalton movies.

I think he was before his time. Cinema goers wanted schmooze ala Moore and Brosnan.. Dalton would go down a treat these days looking at how popular the Craig films have been

B.A._Baracus

Peatys wrote: »

I think he was before his time. Cinema goers wanted schmooze ala Moore and Brosnan.. Dalton would go down a treat these days looking at how popular the Craig films have been

I agree.
To quote Timothy Dalton himself "Those Bonds were ahead of their time" - Dude is right

loyatemu

I only know James Norton from McMafia where I thought he was as wooden as an oak table.

Aidan Turner I thought might be a bit short for Bond, but google tells me he's taller than Daniel Craig so I guess not.

p to the e

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Well even if the film is bad at least we got some fairly crap Heineken ads from it.

I think I remember reading that the Bond films make just as much, if not more, revenue from licencing, product placement and general advertisements than they do from ticket sales.

seenitall

py2006 wrote: »

I thought the next Bond had to be the furthest thing from a straight white male as possible??


Ideally a black asian lesbian dwarf who identifies as an aboriginal albino siamese twin

Nah, I have a feeling that was never gonna happen under Babs' watch. She strikes me as a pretty traditional Italian gal, who will have heeded what sort of Bond Cubby would want if he were alive - I think all the PC hype was media generated...

Of course, she may still prove me wrong, but I don't think so.

ETA: yup, another one here whose favourite is Dalton. God, that man TLD is such a classy spy movie.

Casino Royale, though, my favourite Bond film overall. It is just so, so well crafted. Sadly, there was only one way to go thereafter.

Aidan Turner does the smouldering presence thing very well. There just seems to be more vigour to him than someone like Norton. But it's all a matter of different tastes, really.

Someone I know is mad for Dan Stevens as Bond, for example. I can't see it myself.

Dades

loyatemu wrote: »

Aidan Turner I thought might be a bit short for Bond, but google tells me he's taller than Daniel Craig so I guess not.

I'm guessing you've only seen him in the Hobbit!

seenitall wrote: »

Someone I know is mad for Dan Stevens as Bond, for example. I can't see it myself.

I like DS a lot. He's awesome in The Guest. Take him over James Norton any day.

pixelburp

Looks like Netflix & Apple are being courted in a potential acquisition of the Bond Brand:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/24/mgm-leads-2020-media-acquisition-targets.html

Hande hoche!

p to the e wrote: »

I think I remember reading that the Bond films make just as much, if not more, revenue from licencing, product placement and general advertisements than they do from ticket sales.

Between the drink, watches and cars in the films.. Think you may well be correct.

Dades

I'm fairly oblivious to product placement in movies. It doesn't really bother me.

Notable exception being a couple of the BMWs in the Brosnan years. That Z3 in Goldeneye? Seriously let's have armour plating on our cars... and a canvas roof... in a tiny roadster. In TWINE he at least had a saloon Beemer that the bad guys couldn't get into with a sledgehammer. If he's been driving the roadster they could got in with a Swiss Army Knife.

For product placement though, the Roger movies almost made it part of the fun. 7up, Sony, etc...

pixelburp

Depends on how "in your face" the product is displayed on screen really, and that in turn depends on whether it's a diktat are from the studio, or the director's personal preferences: I think with some like Fincher, the argument is that real-world products add a little more authenticity to the facade of it all; but then a director like Michael Bay just likes showing off "luxury" brands to a pornographic degree.

Film isn't quit as bad as TV used to be though, with the prevalence of subscriber channels lessening the necessity to insert cringe inducing scenes of blatant product promotion in show. One of my favourite Sci Fi series of all, Fringe, had some pretty awful scenes in its first season, where the main cast chatted about how fuel efficient their Ford was (cars being a common one, I've watched a few US shows from the early 2010s where characters have "completely organic" conversations about the specs of the car during an episode)

One thing you can guarantee: if a scene involves a car pulling up in such a way that the badge sits centre of frame? The production is absolutely receiving promotion from the car company

ManOfMystery

Certain product placements I don't mind. The 'Bond Car' has been an integral part of the 007 film package since the original 60s films, so if they want to show off the latest Aston/BMW/etc with Bond behind the wheel, it can be turned into a thrilling chase and slip fairly neatly into the story.

Bond standing at a bar with his gaze lingering on his drink as the camera pans towards a bottle of Schweppes neatly angled towards the viewer? No thanks.

p to the e

silverharp

If you like nerding out on product placement, this recent one one about Pulp Fiction by Rob Ager is one for you. focuses mostly on McDonalds v Burger King

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ZIvoL2lB0

Dades

pixelburp wrote: »

One thing you can guarantee: if a scene involves a car pulling up in such a way that the badge sits centre of frame? The production is absolutely receiving promotion from the car company

ManOfMystery wrote: »

Certain product placements I don't mind. The 'Bond Car' has been an integral part of the 007 film package since the original 60s films, so if they want to show off the latest Aston/BMW/etc with Bond behind the wheel, it can be turned into a thrilling chase and slip fairly neatly into the story.

A good case in both points... the car chase at the start of QoS. A great chase, featuring loads of gratuitous badge/grill flashing for the Aston and those beautiful Alfas*. Just a pity the meat of the action is so shaky-cam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aNsfq52ex0

* I drive a black Ti model like those. Product placement toward lifelong Bond fans works!

JP Liz V1

fitz wrote: »

I think she's a breath of fresh air in pop music, and a terrific choice. Her brother's production is top notch. Genuinely excited to hear this.

She's performing it the Oscars next month

Slydice

Superbowl spot:

Bit of hype sense tingling..

alchemist33

I just saw it during the SB. Looked really good

MisterAnarchy

The theme song is out ,and its quite decent.
It seems to borrow alot from previous Bond soundtracks,indeed parts are rehashes of earlier themes .

Orchestral Arrangement by Hans Zimmer and Matt Dunkley,
Guitar played by Johnny Marr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB_S2qFh5lU

Sexual Chocolate

Too slow of a song for my liking. Reminds me a bit of The World is Not Enough.

Mr Crispy

Yeah, not bad.

FunLover18

Anyone else getting strong Skyfall vibes? It sounds very similar in parts IMO.

Shelga

Quite dreary, IMO, although I do like Billie Eilish’s voice.

Takes forever to get going- I can’t picture how they’re going to segue into the theme song after the opening scene??

loyatemu

why hire one of the hottest young pop singers of the day, and get them to do such a dreary unmemorable song. They rejected Radiohead's song last time because it was too abstract, it was "Agadoo" compared to this.

ricero

Fantastic theme tune I think

MisterAnarchy

FunLover18 wrote: »

Anyone else getting strong Skyfall vibes? It sounds very similar in parts IMO.

Yes, it sounds like Skyfall in parts ,Writing on the Wall in others ,The World is Not Enough in others.
Its like a rehash of earlier songs ,when I heard it first I thought it sounded very familiar .

sligeach

That theme song is pants. Takes forever to get going and still doesn't by the end.

Acosta

loyatemu wrote: »

why hire one of the hottest young pop singers of the day, and get them to do such a dreary unmemorable song. They rejected Radiohead's song last time because it was too abstract, it was "Agadoo" compared to this.

They just wanted a name on a track that was already probably written in advance. Long gone are the day's when they hire talented songwriters and leave then at it.

It's just another boring ballad for the x factor generation.

Dades

FunLover18 wrote: »

Anyone else getting strong Skyfall vibes? It sounds very similar in parts IMO.

It has a very familiar vibe about it alright.

That said I listened to it a few times this morning and I do really like it. It's not "Know My Name", but it hits the Bond beats in a different way.

ManOfMystery

It's not bad, but it's yet another one in the same vein of what we got from Adele and Sam Smith - mournful and slow.

Chris Cornell's remains the standout Bong song of recent years for me, and that's purely because of the sheer energy in the song. It grabs you by the neck from the get go and his powerful voice drives it all. Lyrically, he also seemed to really understand the character as he was presented in Casino Royale.

homerun_homer

The song is fine, but as a Bond song I want a bit more power after the last few being more ballad like. Give me a Living Daylights or A View to a Kill style theme please.

If not a banger, then something akin to Nobody Does it Better. What a tune.

Homelander

Not a Billie Eilish fan but to be fair it's pretty OK. Could do with a bit more lift/gusto in spots, but yeah, it's OK.

Big Gerry

It won't be out next month the release date has been pushed back to November.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8074959/Release-new-James-Bond-film-No-Time-Die-pushed-April-November.html

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